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    need to buy sager thermal memory pad's for gpu, where?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by lzykocp1002, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. lzykocp1002

    lzykocp1002 Notebook Consultant

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    i would like to buy some thermal memory pad's that are used in sagers gpu heatsinks, they are stuck on the heatsink, question is where can i buy it, i'd like to buy maybe 160mm x 160mm of it, 1.0mm if possible.
     
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    lzykocp1002 Notebook Consultant

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    on the memory? you actually recommend that i use Ic7 diamond on the memory, thats the first time i ever heard that.
     
  3. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Sorry about that, i guess overlooked the "memory" part and just saw gpu heatsinks.
     
  4. lzykocp1002

    lzykocp1002 Notebook Consultant

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    yea i would like to purchase those pad's for the memory i tried some aftermarket EK thermal pads 1.0mm but they make it even hotter, need to find a solution. HOWEVER i do have heard that putting as5 on top of memory pad's on the ram actually gives very good results.
     
  5. Lauski

    Lauski Notebook Consultant

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    How about these?

    Thermal Pads - 30mm x 30mm - 5 Pack (HSFPHASECM) - FrozenCPU.com

    Search around on the site for other thermal "tapes" and "pads" to see if you find what you're looking for.

    Also, if you have the heatsink off the memory, what's the gap look like?

    Because, if it touches firmly (and especially after you would screw it down) you'd get better heat transfer with a non-conductive, non-capacitive paste like Diamond IC7, I'd think.

    Let me know what you think, I've been curious about this very thing. Just haven't gotten to taking it apart myself.
     
  6. Electric Shock

    Electric Shock Notebook Evangelist

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    I think Aikimox said he just uses thermal compound on the memory instead of pads and it has worked for him. That said, every GPU and heatsink had different heatsink and tolerances and pads are the safer bet. You could use any pads really and they should work.
     
  7. lzykocp1002

    lzykocp1002 Notebook Consultant

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    i already purchased thermal pads from frozen cpu as i stated above

    EK System Builders Thermal Pad Full Sheet - 305mm x 305mm x 1.0mm - FrozenCPU.com

    these are supposedly much better then those default one's nether the less they perform like crap, these thermal pads are most likely with desktop video cards in mind and now notebooks, i definitely know that adhesive on memory would perform better obviously, but i don't really want to spread that stuff on my gpu, i just want to purchase the exact thermal pad's used in the heat sinks by clevo. There are other thermal pad's obviously but i don't want to waste $100 testing and finding out which is which so if anybody can get a source, anyways bottom line i'd like to purchase the stuff clevo uses where to get...

    edit: also thermal pads are necessary regardless of pasting thermal compound on memory because the heatsinks dont make full contact and the thermal pad's substitute with thickness, if you look on a clevo heatsink sometimes there stacked in certain parts( can't do that with thermal compound.
     
  8. Lauski

    Lauski Notebook Consultant

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    How do you know your memory temp is poor? What are you measuring with? Are you only messing with the memory and your GPU Temp readout has gone up?

    Thanks for this. I'll leave mine alone then, not going to pop it off and risk wanting fresh thermal pads, especially if I can't replace what's there with paste.
     
  9. Lauski

    Lauski Notebook Consultant

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    Ouch. I just noticed the price you paid! Wow!

    This is what I would do: Contact them and ask what the W/mK rating is on the pads you purchased... I don't see it listed anywhere.

    Generally the good stuff I've seen seems to be 4.0 W/mK. Looking around on the site more for you, I found these:
    Fujipoly Premium System Builder Thermal Pad - 1/4 Sheet - 150 x 100 x 1.5 - Thermal Conductivity 6.0 W/mK - FrozenCPU.com

    Cheaper, and rated 6.0 W/mK. It'd be good to know what you bought originally. If they aren't as good of a rating, it still doesn't explain why they cost twice as much.
     
  10. lzykocp1002

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    yea OUCH, now you know why i'm making this thread, anyways i'm afraid i might have no choice but to shell out some more, this time i'm going to make a sandwich effect, putting as5 on the memory chips, and for that areas where the heat sink can't make contact i'll put as 5 then the pad then as5 on top of the pad, it's going to be a nightmare cleaning it all up but i'm going to do it right one time and be done with it. wasting more money

    Phobya Thermal Pad XT 100mm x 100mm x 1.0mm - 7W/mk (1 Piece) (17134) - FrozenCPU.com

    look at how much that costs for something that's going to be small, this sucks.

    edit: o yea and i've conducted tests definitely, using just a little piece of those clevo pad's made huge difference as opposed to the EK, the problem might be that there much thicker and more harder unlike clevo's which is almost like puddy, and that might cause issues for contact, i've have to look into it. I don't know at this point what route i'm going to go
     
  11. Electric Shock

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    Just use bare thermal pads. The sandwich effect could actually insulate your chips. Thermal pads are designed to be used bare, not with thermal compound stuck to it. We all know that too much thermal compound actually insulates instead of conducting heat. That's why people always complain about too much paste from factory installs.

    If Clevo ones are like putty, they are probably like the ones in commercial videocards. You have to find ones that soft because they squish more and form almost a paste like contact between the heatsink and chips.
     
  12. lzykocp1002

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    it probably insulates because of cheap thermal pad's, in this case i'd be using higher rated heat conductive thermal pads and as 5 covers the micro gaps and applying it on a higher thermal memory pad and then through with the as 5 and contact to the heat sink which will cover the gaps, it would produce a much more contact and faster thermal conductivity then using cheap thermal pad's

    where are you getting this insulation from btw i can guarantee that who ever suffered from that used cheap thermal pads, and the one's used on the video cards really aren't anything special.

    edit: ic diamond7 conducts at around 15-16 watt/mk i tihnk, the thermal pad's i'm getting conduct at 7 watt/mk, i'm going to presume that the ones clevo uses probably conducts much less and if something doesn't conduct fast enough obviously the heat build up/insulation
     
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    just pulled the trigger, more ic 7 diamond as5 for the mem and thermal pads, my theory is either right or it's wrong, but one things for sure i'm going to settle this once and for all and will conduct serious tests.

    I'll run the thermal pad's with out as5 then i'll try with it if results aren't satisfactory, maybe the ek stuff was real garbage, i'll find out next week.
     
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    No. Don't use thermal paste. With or without pads. Clevo heatsinks are not build for it.

    Also, I wouldn't be surprised if all of those 1mm pads you bought are too thin. I heard they're supposed to be 2mm.

    If you mix pads and paste, they stick to everything and will tear and leave pieces on the heatsink and vRAM if you try to remove them.
     
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    i'm not using thermal paste, the 1.mm fans are not thin, ive compared them to the stock heat sink, and any card produces heat so it does not matter for notebooks or desktop, i'm not talking about thermal adhesive pad's, i'm talking about thermal conductive pad's non stick, i think you might have a complete different interpretation of what i'm going to be using. This stuff doesnt stick or leave rip marks, i'm just putting as5 which is non conductive at a moderate degree to cover every micro gap between the ram and the conductive pad, and then on top of the pad to the heatsink, for full contact and thermal transfer.
     
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    Lol, im using MX4 on my gpu memory and its all fine :p max 82c on load in furmark it never gets this hot in games. So if you ruined your thermal pads, use some good thermal paste and its all fine either way, before MX4 I used artic silver 5 and that was 4/6c on hotter load.
     
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    Hah! Oh really? How well did it compress down when you screwed it on? Pretty tight?

    Have you also repasted your GPU? So, do you know if repasting the memory (by itself) has a positive impact? I'd like to compare my temp to yours. You using the 560m or 460m?