no XP64 supportfor my D901C?

Today I got my clevo D901C (schenker, germany). Everything is fine.

But the driver CD doesn`t support XP64!

So, I read here are able of installing drivers for XP64.
If thats true, guys, where can I get the drivers from?

thanks!

 

You can get them from Schenker. Or from Sager, for example. It's the same laptop: Sager 9261.

 

I called schenker already. They said xp64 is not supported.

 

Well, try Sager. However, I recommend installing Vista .

 

on sagers homepage there`s also only support for xp but not xp64:

http://www.sagernotebook.com/information.php?information_id=7


and also clevo has no xp64 support on their pages:

http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/e-services/download.asp

 

I couldn't even find that downloads page on Clevo's site .

 

so, what now,

is xp64 supported?

 

you can still use XP 64-bit if you want.

you just need to specify which devices need drivers, and we can help with that.

 

I'm running Vista 64 and I like it a lot. I'm a EE and use quite a few engineering tools without any issue (except Altera tools which I have to run in an XP Pro 32-bit Virtual Machine until the next release).

Why touch XP 64 may I ask?

 

That was my question as well. I know vista has gotten a bad rap but in truth a good clean install and it runs just about everything. I know when it first came out the 64 bit support was sluggish but it has improved a lot.

 

@gophn: this sounds nice!

I`m doing 3D animation (Maya) and it`s continuously reported that vista does not work well with Maya. Also, I just don`t want to waste memory because I`m working with heavy scenes and the rendering also needs memory. So, actually vista is worthless when it comes to 3D animation..


So, I don`t have much experience with computer (notebook/hardware) installing.
On the DVD there are drivers for:

chipse : intel p965 + ICH8-R
video : 8700 M GT sli
audio : Realtek AL C833 @ Intel 82801HB ICH8
LAN : Realtek RTL 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit ethernet adapter
Touchpad : ?
Card Reader : ?(might be Texas Instruments PCIxx12 CardBus controller)
AP-Key utility: ?
Raid Utility : ? (so, actually I need a Raid 1 system)
Bluetooth : (bluetooth module USB interface)

the data are either from the clevo homepage or everest (opened with the installed xp64), cannotfind out more...

thanksmuch for your help!

 

Have you already installed XP x64?

which drivers shows up in the Device Manager as needing to be installed?

 

yes, I installed xp64, cause I didn`t know the drivers are not made for it...
I even installed the chipset driver and the LAN driver and there was no error message.
But when I installed the graphics card driver it told me its not made for xp64, thats when I realized the driver DVD is not for this OS.

device manager: to be installed:

3D video controller
mass storage controller
Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High definition audio

and I guess I would have to reinstall the chipset and LAN driver for xp64 again..

 

Well, 3D video: go here and download the driver + inf. Then extract the driver, copy the inf in the folder, overwrite the existing file and run setup.exe.
Mass storage controller? I believe that comes from Intel.
Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for HDA -> that may be included in the Realtek drivers (that is if the D901C has a Realtek chipset).
I'm not very helpful here, but I am sure someone can give you a better idea about what you need.

 

Thanks for that FadeToBlack.

The manual gives the following order for the installation:
1. chipset
2. video
3. audio
4. lan
5. touchpad
6. cardReader
7. ap-key utility
8. raid tility
9. bluetooth

so, I´ll better wait for the chipset drivers.
But, why the heck do most of the devices do not show up as -still to be installed- in the device manager?!?

 

Intel P965 Express Chipset Drivers:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=816

Mass Storage Controller:
- could be the card reader (if you do not see it show up in My Computer)
- or it could be this (Intel® Matrix
Storage Manager):
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2101

Audio Drivers:
you can try using the Vista 64-bit drivers

 

Yes you can use xp64 and yes it is better than Vista. Vista eats up between 17 to 20% of your ram and heavy on the system. So if you have 4 gigs of Ram you will have about 3 gigs of free ram to play with if you are lucky. Meanwhile on XP64 you get about 3.8 gigs of free ram, tweak it good and you are close to 3.85 gigs. Vista is simply a MESS the way they have the navigation set, not a clean interface what so ever. Anyway for what sci is using, XP64 will run circles around Vista. I tried both.

OK sci here’s what you need to do.
1-Download the latest Chipset Drivers from Intel. The Chipset drivers are pretty much universal and support XP, XP64 and Vista.

2-You did not specify how many hard drives you have, at any rate if you want to use Raid you have to install the Raid drivers before installing windows. Again the XP64 Raid Drivers are found at Intel Web site Download section. You also need an external USB Floppy Drive to install the Raid Drivers since you have to create a floppy for that. If you can not find the Chipset and the Raid Drivers, just let me know I’ll email them to you since I have them and they are below the 10 Meg limit on yahoo mail.

3-As for your Video Drivers, just like Fade said you can get those at Laptpvideo2go website. He already provided you with the link

4-Audio Drivers. Again Fade provided you with the link and they have the XP64 Drivers. Not necessary since the ones on you Drivers CD for XP has them and they do support XP64. However you need a HotFix from Microsoft to install them. You must install the HotFix first. It is the HD audio windows drivers and you can not install the Audio Drivers without them The HotFix is drvhu_08-17_windowsserver2003.windowsxp-kb901105-v3-x64-enu You should be able to get it over at Microsoft Website. Again if you can’t find it let me know I’ll email it to you.

5-The rest of the Drivers such as the Card Reader, Camera etc.. work off the Drivers CD you got from Clevo or Sager. Not sure about the Touch Pad though since I do not use it so I did not install them when I was running XP64.

I don’t know why Microsoft did not just go with XP64 instead of the cluttered up system hogging Vista. And yes I am talking from experience, I ran all three OSs and the best with what little support it has is the XP64. At least that was my conclusion after doing some Real world benching.

 

woa, thanks Gophn and WackMan!

I found:

chipset driver: "INF Update Utility - Primarily for Intel® 3, 900 Series Chipsets"
chipsetLink

raid preinstall: "64-bit Floppy Configuration Utility for Intel® Matrix Storage Manager "
and raid driver:"RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager"
preinstall and driverLink

audio driver: "WDM_R180.exe"
audio driverLink

graphics drivers:" nVIDIA ForceWare X 169.04 for Windows XP 64bit"
graphics driverLink

audioHotFix:"drvhu_08-17_windowsserver2003.windowsxp-kb901105-v3-x64-enu.exe"
hotFixLink

thank you so much. So, is this all fine?


But I already installes xp, so what have I to do to get the raid preinstall done? BTW how can I deinstall xp?

Uh, sorry, crude beginner questions

 

The only way to get rid of XP completely is to format .
That should be fine.

 

so, I installed the chipset: "INF Update Utility - Primarily for Intel® 3, 900 Series Chipsets" (gophns link)

but then the nvidia installation tells me that there is no hardware compatible driver and exits, argn!

any idea??

thanks

 

Purely for gaming purposes, XP 64 would be better/faster? ( on 9261 )

I do like the interface of XP much better.

 

Install this for Intel Matrix Driver (storage):
http://www.eurocom.com/support/drivers/zip/D900C/Vistax64/01Matrix.zip
- it should work for XP x64 as well

 

do I have to deinstall the previous chipset drivers?
How can I do that?

thanks Gophn!

 

you can install it without having to uninstalling anything.

 

here is the chipset for D900C (For XP and Vista):
http://www.pro-star.com/drivers/D9C-D901C/Chipset_8301014.zip

 

ok, I firstly installed the diver from the pro-star link.

but,no way,I cannot install the intel matrix driver nor the nvidia graphics driver.






what now

 

the Matrix Driver has to do with Nvidia?? thats weird.

Matrix Driver should do with Intel.

Can you post a pic of you current Device Manager?
- to show which devices need a driver.

 

nono, it has not to do with nvidia.

I simply meant I firstly installed the chipset from pro-star and then tried to install the nvidia drivers and also the matrix storage drivers.

But both failed..

 

so currently... which devices show up in the Device Manager with an issue (driver needed or what not)

 

my whole procedure:
1. do a new xp64 installation
2. during that, add the raid data via a connected usb-floppy
3. install the chipset from: Intel P965 Express Chipset Drivers:
(downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...?ProductID=816.....)
3a.try to install the matrix storage driver...failed
3b.try to install the nvidia driver...failed
4. install the chipset driver from pro-star
5. try to install the nvidia driver from laptopvideo2go---failed
6. try to install the matrix storage fromeurocom...failed

 

its:
3D video controller
ethernet controller
mass storage controller
microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio

 

5. you have to alter the INF file before installing the new drivers ( READ THIS)

6. try this: Matrix_7601011.zip

 

fine, with the new INF, the driver can be installed!

But also the other matrix storage fails..

thanks much so far Gophn, for your great efford!

 

try this (from Clevo):
ftp://sftp.clevo.com.tw/D9x0C/OTHERS/Matrix_V.zip

 

same result: does not meet the minimum requirements, blablabla.....

 

the Matrix is for RAID... so you can try to disable it in the BIOS and/or RAID boot-agent (any RAID options).

then it should not show up in the Device Manager.

 

thanks to Gophn I could get my system running (ok, the raid drivers are not working...)

Now, I tried to run Maya 2008.

And there`s much flickering and I cannot navigate in the viewport. Oh, man!

Has anybody a solution for that? I knew theres much trouble with maya and the 8xxx series,now the trouble gets to me...

May it be possible to use drivers for the 1600 M card??

 

i do not get why XP 64-bit over 32-bit.

I run Maya and 3ds max on my notebook fine in XP Pro 32-bit.
- since there is full support and optimizations available for this "legacy" OS

 

afaik Maya utilizes multicores in non-rendering processes only under 64 bit (of course, only when the corresponding nodes andother codeis already rewritten for multicore usage)

 

it uses multi-cores in XP 32-bit fine... as long as you do the XP hotfix

read this if you haven't yet:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416

 

Why go XP 64 over Vista 64? Venders are actually making drivers for Vista 64... XP 64 never received good support, and never will at this point in time.

 

man, right now I don`t have the time to go through all your posts there.

Are you sure that not only the OS but also Maya really utilizes all cores?

And also, when setting the 3GB flag in the boot.ini, my system and otheres could deal with only up to 3.5 GB of RAM. Could you also solve this??

And yes, I will check more of those threads

 

oh thats right, XP 32-bit only support 3-ish GBs of RAM.

But it does have full support for drivers, software, and many optimized programs for it.... which might not be a big deal to lose that bit of memory to gain better support and have more options.

 

yes, yes, you might be right!

when I come back from my clients next week I will decide if I`ll give xp32 a go..


but may it be possible that my board could support more than 4 gig of RAM, maybe when something like 3GB RAM will be sold?
Or is it limited to 2*2 GB?
(as far as I know xp64 can take up more than 4 GB RAM)

 

64-bit can take terabytes of RAM.

But the XP 32-bit is limited 3-ish GBs... which is still really good.... until there is better support for Vista x64 for DCC and 3D design.

 

I forgot to mention the problems of mental ray before 64 bit. Its said that all those RAM problems you don`t have now. And you can use maya 64 bit only with a64 bit OS

 

Its my understanding that any OS will utalize the dual cores, but a 32 bit OS will not take advantage of an 64 bit Processor?

Also sci: the only driver you are having troubles is with raid?

 

@ qsparks: exactly

I also bought a wacom graphire Bluetooth. There I don`t know whats going on: even with the newest bluetooth and wacom drivers I get no absolut coordinates and also the curser lags heavily behind the pen move. But I don`t know if that driver/OS related...

edit: and if you want to work with 8700M GT and maya:
in nvidia control panel : set the anti_alising to 4 and anisotrophic filtering to 8!
that does the trick.

 

that is not very accurate.

My article has gotten over 300,000 genuine hits (worldwide) because it was meant to crush that misconception. 32-bit XP can fully utilize multi-cores fine.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416

And look at the CPU multi-threaded benchmarks here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=123570

 

I agree with that, but just because a processor is a dual core that doesn't mean that the processor is 64 bit and vise versa, not every 64 bit processor is dual core. A 64 bit processor has 64 bit integer registers, and memory addresses, ect. What I'm saying is that a 32 bit OS will limit integer registers, memory addresses and such to 32 bits.