nvidia 9800 coming in 3 months!!?

Ok, I`ve gotten SetFSB.
Now, above the current CPUfrequency line, I have 43/95 where you have 44/95. Do I need to change that or is it because mine is a T7500 and yours a T7700?
And the line above that, how much do I have to increase, and what do I need to pay attention to?

 

Allright , I`ve gotten it to 2.5, at exactly 644/760 .
Now tell me, does it stay that way after I hit apply or will it revert back when I close the program?

 

It will stay that way until you reboot.

 

The lower slider is your PCI/PCI-E frequency. Don´t move that, the southbriedge SATA controler doesn´t like high PCI-E freqs

Use only the top slider, wich is the one that will rise your FSB.

Yes it will stay that way until you power down your computer. If ou restart the OC will stay.

Because the Clock Generator is volatile, when you shutdown your NB, all the settings will reset(on restart the power is not cut, so the PLL keeps the settings). Then when you turn it on again, the BIOS will configure it, but with the default speed.

I´m developing an .exe that will launch automatically the SetFSB on boot and will apply the OC all automatically. It will have a verification code, so when you restart, it will not rise the FSB again(if that hapen your FSB will rise again an double your OC, and that we don´t want).

 

So basically I have to OC every time I power on ?
Bummer, I`m a fast forgetter

 

Only when you have come from an power off state(standby). On restart situations the OC stays.

Has I said:

Maybe next week I will finish it... I´m trying to solve some problems on the detect algorithm, and then I will post it here

 

I always power off, as in hibernate. I`ll have to make a task to start the program at startup so that I`ll see it and OCit out of habbit.
Thanks @Audigy.

 

I overclocked my ASUS C90S with SetFSB, too but the clocks always went back to stock settings when I rebooted.
I think the bios is resetting the PLL every time I reboot.
It might be that your bios is different than the one on my ASUS C90S but I am pretty sure that a software overclock will be reset to stock during reboot.

 

Thats because your C90S have a different Clock Generator. On an M570RU the PLL is cleared only when the power is cut.

All Clock Generators use volatile Control Registers, so when the power is cut, everything is cleared, like system RAM.

Maybe your PLL/BIOS manage the Control Registers and SMBus on an different way.

 

I`ve ran it on 2.5Ghz, at 1.10 V, and it restarted the system, twice, until I took out the power plug and since RMClock is set to configure it at 600Mhz, I could return to default clocks.
Funny, I can run at 1.0 V 2.2 Ghz stable, yet 2.5 restarts at 1.10V.
I`ll see tomorrow if 1.15 will help,although the heat generation would take it to 65-70C easily...

 

Oh, thanks for pointing that out then.
I knew that PLL's are volatile and clear without power but I thought they all act the same on a reboot and that it wasn't PLL/Bios specific.
Thanks again.

 

The more you rise, more voltage it will need.

It´s like a factory... the workers do 5000 shoes a day. If you want more shoes, or you add more workers(wich in a CPU is impossible ), or they rise the speed wich they do the shoes.

Because they work more faster, they need to eat more(and paid better ), like the CPU with the core voltage.


70ºC should not be a problem for a Meron. They only start throttling at 100ºC, so the ideal is to keep then below 90/85ºC. They will live long enough until de day that you buy another one.

 

With the money youre willing to put down eleron, it might be wiser to wait for mobile quads early 2009 (by which time the gt200 mobile chips will come out, and they will own ) and sell ur sager, and buy another one. Since you probably can't upgrade to quad core anyway.

 

The last time I`ll be going to the US is this summer, so it`ll be my last chance to change some parts.
I`m not going through the whole waiting/paying/tax evading adventures again
Plus, I won`t risk getting a worse screen,I`m fine with mine.
So I just hope that the M570RU is as upgradeable as I need it to be

 

AAH.. ive created a... a.. TANGENT!!... something about volting and Cpus.... ive created a monster!! back to the 9800.... wat shud i do. will there be a 9950? shud i wait a bit more. I know there is ALWAYS something new coming out every few months. But wat shud i wait for since im only upgrading once. shud i wait for the 9950.. with the 9800 last long... gaaah

 

Dude, I`m not playing the waiting game. I`ve saved money specifically for this summer, so what ever comes out now is what I`ll get. So I am hoping for the best parts to be out before August 9800M GTX included...

 

Ok, here is the stock FSB printscreen for my T7500.

 

Thanks

I´m just making some optimizations to the code and then I will release it.

 

Got some info about 9800MGTX ,still 96SP....... -_-

 

would you mind to share the source?

 

Then I guess theres really no point in upgrading...

 

this is very easy folks. there is no point in upgrading to 9800 as it is the same as the 8800 with 10% better performance. this is what's being reported in the desktop world so it is common sense the same will be true for the mobile market.

 

but if its cheaper than the 8800 with a 10% performance boost... it may be worth it... especially for ppl buying TWO!

 

please share the source...

 

I meant if you were upgrading from the 8800, its not worth it.

 

imo it will be like the 8600 vs 8700... just a slightly faster oc'ed version

 

referring to the fact that its cheaper i assume.

my reseller... so... of course it could be a lie. but thats a pretty big lie since the norm is new products becoming MORE expensive. so the guy had to know it was a big claim before he made it.

 

For us 8700 M GT and the 7950GTX, the 9800M GTX is obviousely better than the 8800M GTX, since we`ll have to upgrade to the best one ATM, and lower power consumption=less heat=more OCing capabilities

 

Lol, I wish I could buy a laptop every 6 months like some of you guys.

but then I'd feel like I won't appreciate the last...3 I had? lol

 

As I said before, my humble opinion is:

So will not be only an OCed 8800M GTX... I hope...

And no, the 9800M GTX will not have 64SPs thats for sure(UUFFF!)... only the 9800M GTS, wich will be G94 core based(same core as 9600 GT desktop card).

The 9800M GTX will derivate from the 9800 GT desktop card that will be released with a revised G92 shrinked to 55nm.

So let´s hope and pray

 

9800M GTX will be an OCed version of the 8800MGTX, with the same 96SPs...
The thing is, some people OCed their 8800MGTX already,so the 9800MGTX will just be like a factory OC...
Somebody prove me wrong

 

The 9800M GTX should also run cooler than the 8000M GTX overclocked to 9800M GTX speeds because of the 45nm die on the new GPU.

 

In terms of performance, if the desktop trend goes for mobile GPUs, the 9800M GTX in SLi will gain more ground to a single card setup then the 8800M GTX did (about 5%).



So basically if a single 9800M GTX is 10% faster then the 8800M GTX, the SLi version will be comparatively 15% to 20% faster then the current platform. That is quite a lot. In other words we will jump from 14000 to values around 17000. But I do think that will be better then that.

Trance

 

yes but it is not worth forking over $700 dollars per card to upgrade from the 8800 gtx.

 

From the 8800M GTX, no, from the 7950GTX or 8700M GT, it is! Remember,not everyone has the 8800M GTX yet

 

of course! it is even worth going from 7950/8700 to the 8800gtx

 

AMEN BROTHER!, i only got ONE 7950 cuz i back then knew i was going to get SLI of a newer card later on.. ONE 7950 to DUAL 9800

;lasdfhja;sldfjhsal oh god i think i wet myself.

 

I think that when the 9800m comes out, 8800m prices will drop, and that will be the best bet for people to upgrade to.

 

Ppl seem to not be reading the part where I was told the 9800 WILL BE CHEAPER THAN THE 8800, or i wouldnt have rele made this thread. If one more person ssays the 8800 will be cheaper, so better bang for your buck, im gonna slap them.

 

ooh, the 9800 will be cheaper than itself...isn't that a paradox or something?

 

Why would it be cheaper????

That doesnt make sense....

Well, te 9800m GTS is 250 less than the 8800m GTX according to the EC config page

 

the 9800 GTX is supposedly gonna be cheaper AND faster than 8800GTX, according to a reseller im in contact with, over the fone.

i know it doesnt make sense, the 8800gtx would become completely obselete since its not even gonna be cheaper.

 

Well, whatever it turns out to be, what this thread shows, is that a lot of people will be put off if the d901c does not support the 9800M GTX even with a motherboard upgrade. You know this is a possibility.

Single Go 7950 GTX (around 5600 3dMark06) to Single 8800M GTX (9600 3dMark06)

The trend is the next generation almost double the performance of previous ones. That is why I think the performance gains wll be more then what I actually stated above. But this might be the exception.

Trance

 

yea well.. the 8800 was a bigger jump in technology and new software support than the 9800 will be. Most ppl are still arguing that the 9x00 series is using the same cores as some 8x00 cards. (the g92 or something, i dunno i dont look THAT far into these things, the exact cores, etc...) I feel the trend is that each generation adds performance, moreso than fully double... 5600+4k=9600+4k=13600?

 

Well, I don't know whether this is true but the reason it's possible is that the laptops which could have an 8800M GTX would not be able to upgrade to the 9800M GTX, and so they would have to buy the 8800M GTX. Also, since the 9800M GTX has a smaller die or whatever, it would have lower production costs. That being said, it would make no sense to get an 8800M GTX over a 9800M GTX if it is possible to get the 9800M, but if not then it is possible for the 8800M GTX to cost more. This is just like how Merom processors are more expensive than Penryn ones like a previous poster said.

 

A cheaper better card? BRING IT ON !

 

Put it in another way. Usually the trend is that the next generation of a given card matches its SLi version given it is more stable (no micro-stuttering and games are fine tunned single cards).

This is one of the reasons so many people argue that SLi is not worth the money. Instead of buying some card in SLi, buy just a single card today, and in an year buy another card.

Concluding, if today one with a 8800M GTX in SLi can run Crysis at 1920x1200 at High, so will the 9800M GTX without stuttering or mouse lags.

I suspect that this trend is about to change in the next couple of years but not yet, since SLi is getting better and better and, more popular. We can already see by the graph that the new cards take advantage of SLi in better ways then say the 8800 GTX or the 7950 GTX do.

Trance
PS: Today, high 3DMark06 scores and FPS counts in SLi are elusive due to the micro stuttering and mouse lags generated by the architecture. The later negates the benefits of higher FPS counts per second beacouse to avoid it you need to turn down the resolution and in some cards (such as mine) totally disable SLi. Of course we are talking games that take fully advantage of cutting edge 3d effects in real time at high def (720p and up) like COD4, Crysis, Assassins Creed and soon FarCry 2.

 

trance, the 9800m gtx uses the same g92 architecture as the 8800 cards so they will not be much faster. they certainly will not be as fast as two 8800 sli cards, not even close. we are looking at about a 5-10% performance increase, not 80%.

we will not be seing the huge leaps in performance with the 9800 series like we did from the 6800 to 7800 and 7800 to 8800.

this has happenend before with nvidia when the series went from the 4 to the 5 series cards.

 

Yes, but since people say it will be cheaper and perform 5-10% better, I say it`s still good.
Although, the 9th series has NOTHING extraordinary in terms of single card.
Sure, the 9800 GX2 is awesome, but that`s not a single card...