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    overclocking 260m

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by balmore, May 13, 2009.

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    185.20 seems to still be one of the best ones around. for benching and gaming.
     
    Johnksss, Jun 21, 2009
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    how do you flash a card with higher voltage?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 6, 2009
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    I just got some nice results from overclocking. I used nvidia system tools to raise the clocks to 620/925/1550 (core/memory/shader). I also have rivatuner installed, i'm not sure if it affects the results somehow. I have the CCC 2.21 config as well, but i guess the benchmarking tool overrides the config's settings.

    7/6/2009 6:58:04 PM - Vista 64
    Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
    DX10 1680x1050, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 64 bit test, FullScreen
    Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
    Global Game Quality: VeryHigh
    ==============================================================
    TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
    !TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
    Play Time: 96.86s, Average FPS: 20.65
    Min FPS: 16.41 at frame 1954, Max FPS: 28.25 at frame 998
    Average Tri/Sec: -16883564, Tri/Frame: -817713
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.12
    !TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
    Play Time: 87.76s, Average FPS: 22.79
    Min FPS: 16.37 at frame 1957, Max FPS: 28.25 at frame 998
    Average Tri/Sec: -18232270, Tri/Frame: -800023
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.15
    !TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
    Play Time: 87.60s, Average FPS: 22.83
    Min FPS: 16.37 at frame 1957, Max FPS: 28.54 at frame 993
    Average Tri/Sec: -18265140, Tri/Frame: -800033
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.15
    TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
    ==============================================================

    Completed All Tests

    <><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

    7/6/2009 6:58:04 PM - Vista 64

    Run #1- DX10 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 22.81
     
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    what is your system specs. it seems alot higher then mines.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 6, 2009
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    Running it with the current game settings (ccc lvl 5 + TOD) didn't do a thing.

    7/6/2009 7:11:15 PM - Vista 64
    Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
    DX10 1680x1050, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 64 bit test, FullScreen
    Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
    Global Game Quality: Custom
    Custom Quality Values:
    VolumetricEffects=
    Texture=
    ObjectDetail=
    Sound=
    Shadows=
    Water=
    Physics=
    Particles=
    Shading=
    PostProcessing=
    GameEffects=
    ==============================================================
    TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
    !TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
    Play Time: 96.52s, Average FPS: 20.72
    Min FPS: 16.85 at frame 1951, Max FPS: 28.59 at frame 997
    Average Tri/Sec: -16939490, Tri/Frame: -817519
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.12
    !TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
    Play Time: 87.47s, Average FPS: 22.86
    Min FPS: 16.68 at frame 1955, Max FPS: 28.59 at frame 997
    Average Tri/Sec: -18307776, Tri/Frame: -800698
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.14
    !TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
    Play Time: 88.01s, Average FPS: 22.73
    Min FPS: 16.53 at frame 1933, Max FPS: 28.59 at frame 997
    Average Tri/Sec: -18192366, Tri/Frame: -800533
    Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.15
    TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
    ==============================================================

    Completed All Tests

    <><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

    7/6/2009 7:11:15 PM - Vista 64

    Run #1- DX10 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Custom ~~ Overall Average FPS: 22.795
     
    CuriousN, Jul 6, 2009
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    np8662
    gtx260m
    p9700
    4gb ram
     
    CuriousN, Jul 6, 2009
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    ok i just saw your res.

    and your still using the same voltage correct.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 6, 2009
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    i haven't changed the voltage, maybe the system changes it automanically
    i just ran it at 640/950/1600
    Global Game Quality: Custom
    Run #1- DX10 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Custom ~~ Overall Average FPS: 23.425
     
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    woah nice. i had to overvolt mine in order to get to those clocks.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 6, 2009
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    what clock ratio is best for 260m?
    is there a linear relationship between the clocks?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 7, 2009
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    the core must be multipled by 2.5 to get the shader.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 7, 2009
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    should the memory clock be related to other clocks in any way?
    also is there a way to see the voltage of your card?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 7, 2009
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    i know when you take out the bios from gpu-z and read it, it will tell you everything but you should be at 1v if you didn't touch anything.

    i'm not sure about the memory.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 7, 2009
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    well ccc makes a difference, here's what happens when its uninstalled at 620/1550/925 clocks:
    7/8/2009 7:31:21 PM - Vista 64

    Run #1- DX10 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 18.94
     
    CuriousN, Jul 8, 2009
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    what is ccc?
    i'm thinking catalst control center
     
    dondadah88, Jul 8, 2009
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    does reducing the clocks improve battery life, or does the card downclock automatically when not gaming?
     
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    That's correct. The card will downclock itself when not gaming.
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Jul 9, 2009
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    what overvolt would you recommend? 1.05v? what voltage is standard?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 12, 2009
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    The factory voltage is 1v, which should be enough to push the card to 600/1500/900. Use 1.05v if you want to push a bit higher.
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Jul 12, 2009
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    do higher voltages than 1.05 provide better results?
    at stock voltage 640/1600/950 i can run three benchmarking loops without the game crashing. what clocks should i expect with 1.05 v?
     
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    Three loops of what benchmark? What were the max temperatures during those benchmarks? You should stress test those clocks first for stability, then you can benchmark them after.

    You have two choices: Furmark with ATITool artifact scanner, or OCCT.
     
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    the test_gpu benchmark in the crysis benchmarking tool. i'll test it for stability like you said sometime too. what about the voltage though? any reason to go higher than 1.05?
     
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    1.05v is the maximum voltage allowed by the GPU.
     
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    is that determined by hardware?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 13, 2009
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    It is what it is, basically. The PSU can only give so much juice, so limits are in place.
     
    Kevin, Jul 13, 2009
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    i may be getting too technical, but is the amperage always constant?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 13, 2009
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    Amperage rises with load.
     
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    should i change the voltage to back to standard when not gaming?
    would it even be better to undervolt? if so, how much?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 14, 2009
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    Your GPU will switch to it's lower levels when you're not gaming, so there is no need to lower the voltage of the highest level if you are not gaming.

    I have compiled a set of clocks that are guaranteed stable for any G92. I have adjusted the lower level voltages to take into account GPU manufacturing quality.

    Extra: 600/1500/900 @ 1v, 620/1550/930 @ 1.05v, 640/1600/950 @ 1.05v
    3D: 400/800/300 @ 0.8v
    Throttle: 300/600/300 @ 0.75v
    2D: 160/320/80 @ 0.7v
     
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    Would 600/1500/900 be perfectly stable on my 9800M GT? I thougt you had to increase the voltage with those clocks?

    How much colder would the card go if I reduce the voltage to 1v from 1.05v, with the same clocks and if it would be stable?
     
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    Try it first before you ask me.

    At the same clocks, a lower voltage will yield a lower thermal signature. Specifically how much colder it will be is entirely up to you to find out.
     
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    some people undervolt their gpu. whats the point of that, if the card downclocks automatically when not gaming?
     
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    We undervolt for the same reason we undervolt our CPU's: to minimize the amount of excess power needed to power the card at those clocks, and to lower temperatures.
     
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    Why post something you guarantee will work when you clearly can not?
     
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    ok, so i'll use overvolt for gaming and undervolt for battery life. how long does changing the voltage take? as long as it takes to restart the computer?

    also, does overvolting the cpu increase performance?
     
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    Every card is different. 600/1500/900 shouldn't be a problem for the 9800M GT at 1v. If it doesn't work, then just use 1.03v or 1.05v. It's as simple as that. But it doesn't change the fact that my clocks are very accurate ballpark figures to start off with when overclocking or undervolting.
     
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  39. Eivind

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    Changing the voltage doesn`t take that long. If you are new to this, I recommend you to search for some threads regarding this theme.

    Overvolting the cpu doesn`t make any sense, I think. The cpu`s are "overvolted" from the factory because it has a safe margin you might say. This is why we can undervolt it.
     
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    You will need to flash the GPU BIOS with those clock and voltage values. It shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to get it all set up.

    Overclocking boosts performance. Overvolting doesn't. Be careful when using those two terms.
     
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    i see,
    does overvolting the processor allow to reach higher clocks?
     
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    If the CPU vcore is accessible, then yes.
     
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    My core is pretty lame, anything past 630/1575 for gaming becomes unstable. It's also driver dependent, like I can't get 3dmark06 to finish at 650/1650 with these hacked 186.24 drivers, but 186.03 would do ok. I can keep 1000 memory for most games, but I'll drop to ~980 for crysis.
     
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    Have you tried 650/1625/950 @ 1.05v?
     
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    Anything past 630 on the core is unstable. The only reason I can get 650 in 3dmark is because, well, it's 3dmark. 1625 shader for the 1:2.5 ratio doesn't make a difference.

    I've been trying to run 3dmark06 on 186.24 and it's just a bad driver. I ran Crysis just fine at 630/1000/1575, but they crashed in 3dmark :rolleyes: Doing a stock run with memory at 950 to compare to what I think was 185.85, 12775 marks.
     
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    Damn, your card really does suck then, haha.
     
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    Tell me about it, lol
     
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    i think gtx260m is a bit better when it comes to overclocking
    when I turned the core up to 640 with standard voltage i could run thee benchmark_gpu loops without crashing, and while i was playing, crysis only crashed once.
     
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    Did you happen to see at what temperature did Crysis crash?
     
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    no, but there was unusually hot to the touch
    (besides the hard drive, but that's another story)
     
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