overclocking in sager 9377-s cpu

Hi guys I have question can I overclock the cpu in the sager 9377-s and also at how many fps does crysis have on all maxed out settings and thanks

 

Hi slayer720. Happy Saturday, bud.

It would be helpful if you mentioned the specs you are curious about. What CPU and GPU? Once you provide that information, I would bet that some other 9377-s owners can share with you what kind of results they are seeing.

 

Her are the specs I will be ordering from xotic pc if I buy the sager 9377-s
Sager NP9377-S (Clevo P377SM-A)
-FREE!!!– U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
-FREE - WATCH DOGS for PC!(While Supplies Last / Must be requested in comments box during checkout)
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080)(SKU - SSC002)
-FREE!- 30 Day No Dead Pixel Warranty
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4940MX (3.1GHz - 4.0GHz, 8MB Intel® Smart Cache)(SKU – SPU403)
-FREE!- IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 880M (16.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 [User Upgradeable](SKU – GPU05X)
- COPPER COOLING UPGRADE - Extra Cooling Copper Heatsinks Applied to the Heatsink/Heatpipes (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC: will add to build time)
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 32GB DDR3 1600MHz [4x8GB] Kingston HYPER X (CL9) Dual Channel Memory (Windows 7 Home Premium not supported)(SKU - RAMX97)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No Laptop Laser-Sketch™
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- RAID-0 Storage - (Stripe) Combines mSATAs for performance. (Requires identical mSATA SSDs)
- 1TB Samsung 840 EVO Series mSATA SSD ( Storage Drive )
- 1TB Samsung 840 EVO Series mSATA SSD ( Storage Drive )
- 1TB Samsung 840 EVO Series SSD [SSD2 - SATA III](SKU - SSD075)
- 1TB Samsung 840 EVO Series SSD [SSD2 - SATA III](SKU - SSD074)
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
-6X Blu-Ray Burner + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive (Sager)(SKU - ODD083)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1202 + Bluetooth 4.0(SKU - WIFI93)
- No Network Accessory
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Integrated Digital Video Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D THX USB 3D Surround Sound Processor (24-bit, 48KHz, USB Interface)
- No Carrying Case
- Sager NP9377 Spare (8 Cell) Battery
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- ASUS R.O.G. GX1000 Optical Gaming Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- ~Windows 7 Professional Premium 64-Bit (64&32-Bit CD Included) + MS Office 2013 Trial
- None
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Back Up Software
- No Unlimited GB Cloud Backup
- - No Microsoft OFFICE Software
- No Software Bundle
- No Global Anti-Theft Protection (Options below require an operating system)
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Technical Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs(SKU - WTY099)
- * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based technical support
* Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
* 24-72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
- Standard Production Time
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Yes, I would like XOTIC PC’s White Glove Premium Packaging (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC: will add to build time)
- No XOTIC PC Gear

well here are the specs I will be purchasing from xotic pc when i buy a sager laptop also can someone give me the pros and cons of this laptop and can someone give me customers review on because I'm hesitating to buy it and I might buy the alienware 18 instead

 

Overclocking the cpu on this model is trickier since the heatsink is comparatively small. 3.8-3.9ghz is achievable with skill for gaming. Note this can be done with a 4810/4910.

 

Unfortunately Slayer, that CPU isn't a great overclocker in this machine.

We have very similar specs (see my sig) and I actually just had my power supply die on me. Get the P570WM, I do *NOT* recommend this machine and will be amending my review about it that I posted in the owner's lounge.

If you want a high performance gaming machine that has little room for enthusiast tweaking out of the box, get an NP9377-S. If you want a machine that is great out of the box but has true enthusiast potential, get a P570WM (Sager NP9570). Avoid the Alienware no matter what, you won't *EVER* get the performance out of that machine that you can coax out of a 9377 or that you can get out of the box on the 9570 due to the way Dell designed it. You'll be wasting a lot of money on that machine.

Now as to the 9377... Here are my thoughts. First off, if you are going to overclock, get two power adapters and make sure that they include the adapter to use two power adapters. The fact I just fried my PSU with a moderate overclock tells me that this system is pushed to the absolute limit and has no headroom. I've been having some stability issues with it stock and figured it was my CPU but now that the adapter blew, I can safely say that its been a power constraint issue the entire time.

They 9570 comes with two adapters (it has to, it has a desktop class CPU). You would do far better getting that system with a 4930K (avoid the X, it performs worse than the K and costs more) than an Alienware. If you can manage the temps and realize the machine has its limits, get the 9377. I would change the CPU to a 4910mq and save the extra money personally... I can get the 4940MX to 3.9GHz on all 4 cores - at a cost of 89C under load which is unacceptable to me. If I undervolt it, it runs between 3.59 and 3.79GHz depending on its load which isn't bad but isn't great compared to Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge CPUs but Haswell sucks, its well known by now.

The 880M chip suffers from throttling. Its being worked on but nothing concrete at this time. From what I've seen, the Dell cards are more problematic than the Clevo cards but there's a very small installed user base. I have cards that perform okay - the 780M still beats it out of the box but its a new chip and may need significant driver optimizations.

Either way, I can't recommend the 9377 at this time. What really sucks? I've had the system for 31 days as of today. :|

Get the 9570 would be my recommendation. I really wish I would have done that because now I'm stuck.

 

There is no point putting an mx in the 93xx systems but 3.8-3.9 will give excellent real gaming performance as the GPUs can be tweaked and that is where the large gains are from.

 

Not if the PSU can't handle it. It makes ZERO sense to get this machine, I can't believe the power supply failed. This should be a dual PSU machine just like the 570. I have a 5k migraine right now.....

 

The PSU should cope with a stock configuration, the 93xx can use the dual psu adapter too.

 

It copes with a stock configure but he asked about overclocking. Only way to get 3.9GHz under load is to increase the amperage. Single PSU can't handle that and when you order two PSUs with this machine they don't include the converter box because they say it's not needed.

Seriously the 570 should be the only machine anyone interested in overclocking even thinks about.

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I had 3.9ghz cpu with 1ghz 780m GPUs (tweaked for power) running ok.

 

If just for gaming overclocking the CPU is not really necessary. Crysis 3 on Ultra with 2x MSAA @ 1080p gives 50-70 frames depending on level but this is with 4900MQ + 780M SLI bone stock. Turning off AA altogether gives a smooth 60 frames most of the time.

 

Even just getting 3.9GHz is a damn stretch on these... and when you DO get it, its 89-90C when you're using an app that can actually take advantage of the processing power. Too hot.

Haswell has not impressed me, that's for sure.

 

Depends on the sample but I had bf4 in the 80s.

 

Thanks for help and I will get the sager 9570 and thanks for help I will post my specs that I will order from xotic pc and thank all of you guys for help

 

Hi guys it he's are the specs I will choose if I purchase a sager np 9570 gaming latop





Sager NP9570 / Clevo P570WM
-FREE!!!– U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
-FREE - WATCH DOGS for PC!(While Supplies Last / Must be requested in comments box during checkout)
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Sager Screen w/ 90% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080)(SKU - SSC013)
- Standard No Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Intel® Core™ i7-4960X Extreme, 3.5-4.0GHz (22nm, 15MB L3 smart cache - 6 cores / 12 threads)(SKU - S2N124)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 880M (16.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 [User Upgradeable] + Extra AC Adapter & Power Converter Box(SKU – GPU06X)
- COPPER COOLING UPGRADE - Extra Cooling Copper Heatsinks Applied to the Heatsink/Heatpipes (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC: will add to build time)
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 32GB DDR3 1600MHz [4x8GB] Kingston HYPER X (CL9) Quad Channel Memory (Windows 7 Home Premium not supported)(SKU - RAMX96)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No Laptop Laser-Sketch™
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- 1TB Samsung 840 EVO Series SSD [SSD2 - SATA III](SKU - SSD075)
- 1TB Samsung 840 EVO Series SSD [SSD2 - SATA III](SKU - SSD074)
- 1TB Samsung 840 EVO Series SSD [SSD2 - SATA III](SKU - SSD074)
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
-6X Blu-Ray Burner + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive (Sager)(SKU - ODD096)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1202 + Bluetooth 4.0(SKU - WIFI97)
- No Network Accessory
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D THX USB 3D Surround Sound Processor (24-bit, 48KHz, USB Interface)
- No Carrying Case
- NP9570 Spare Battery
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- Cyborg R.A.T. 9 Gaming Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- Yes, Redline Boost My Operating System (Operating System Required) (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC: will add to build time)
- ~Windows 7 Professional Premium 64-Bit (64&32-Bit CD Included) + MS Office 2013 Trial
- None
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Back Up Software
- No Unlimited GB Cloud Backup
- - No Microsoft OFFICE Software
- No Software Bundle
- No Global Anti-Theft Protection (Options below require an operating system)
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Technical Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs(SKU - WTY099)
- * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based technical support
* Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
* 24-72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
- Standard Production Time
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Yes, I would like XOTIC PC’s White Glove Premium Packaging (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC: will add to build time)
- No XOTIC PC Gear

 

Hi guys I have a question can I change the gpu to another model like for example if I bought the sager 9570 laptop with nvidia gpu can I change it to AMD radeon gpu and thanks

 

4960X hasn't been overclocking as well as 4930K and you will need different heatsink if you switch to AMD later. Nice build though.

I would recommend Windows 8.1 with that system over Windows 7 but that's up to you.

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Thanks but what about the 4920K can it overclock

 

The heatsink should work but the pads will need to be altered on it. They also have different x brackets for the heatsink.

 

Any K or X CPU can overclock but the 4930K and 4960X are 6-core chips instead of the 4820K which is 4-core. If you don't need hex-core, you can save some money with the 4820K. Since it has less cores, this may translate into less heat (and thus allow higher overclocks) but that's not a guarantee.

For gaming, however, there should be little difference between the 3 CPUs as games tend not to be optimized for anything beyond 4 cores and indeed there are still many single and double threaded games out there.

 

Ok but I'm know in the middle between choosing the np 9377-s and np 9570 np 9570 has better performance but less storage and thanks Ethrem for great help and fast reply and just out of curiosity can you tell me what games do you play

 

Watch Dogs is my main game at the moment (and by far the most demanding game I've come across, it brings this system to its knees as well as my 780 Ti desktop system).

The storage options are different between the two machines and the machine is significantly larger in the 9570 but I'm actually wishing I got the 9570 due to some issues I've been having with my 9377, including heat.

 

You got watch dogs for free the promotion in xotic pc right
and also I made my decision to buy the sager 9570 with specs I wrote above and thanks again for help ethrem

 

I actually bought the game myself. I unfortunately ordered my machine like a week before that promotion started.

Enjoy your machine, its a beast! Make sure you get the dual power adapters (its a video card option - SLI + additional power adapter and converter box) otherwise you'll max out the system out of the box on just one power adapter.

 

Also does the np 9570 have 3d vision

 

Also, its up to you, but I would spring for the full 3 year warranty with accidental damage. It doesn't add a lot of cost to the system but it adds peace of mind.

3D is only available through HDMI or displayport output on either machine. There is a 3D version of the P570WM but I'm not aware of who sells it and honestly, 3D really requires a beefy desktop system to run smoothly.

 

Thanks for all the help

 

No problem!

 

Off topic: Crysis 3 taxes my machine far more than Watch Dogs, temps are usually 5C and 8C higher on the CPU and GPUs respectively. With Watch Dogs my CPU averages around 73C (but I'm using Liquid Ultra), and both GPUs average 73-75C.

 

I've heard Totalbiscuit mention repeatedly that the game runs like garbage regardless, saying that his twin Titans struggle to keep 60 FPS if he drops down from Ultra to High.

 

hi guys I just have one last question is 4930K overclockable

 

It's a fully unlocked product yes.

 

Thanks meaker and what about the 4960x Extreme is it also overclockable

 

Yes it is. Did you read my post with comments on your specs btw?

 

Thanks n=1 I will be ordering these beast by next week

 

All x series products are fully unlocked and have all features enabled.

 

hi guys I have a question how do i overclock 4960X processor in the sager 9570 and also can someone give me a tutorial on how to change graphic cards from nvidia to AMD Radeon

 

Why didn't you just order it with AMD cards in the first place if that's what you wanted? By the way, AMD cards have a much higher failure rate than nVidia cards do. Even the games that are optimized for AMD don't make up for that gap in reliability.

If you don't know how to overclock, you really should be messing around with the physical cards. You can easily destroy your machine if you don't know what you're doing. When you are ready to upgrade, contact XOTIC and ask them to do it for you.

As for overclocking, do a search. There are plenty of threads on here about how to use XTU.

 

I read about AMD shame they are bad
I saw many bad reviews about them especially with clevo models
and I saw your review it was great it helped me a lot but still the sager np 9377-s is good mabye not for overclocking but good for gaming

 

If the chip was Ivy bridge or Sandy Bridge as opposed to Haswell, the 9377 would be great for overclocking too but it doesn't have a sufficient way to get rid of the heat that Haswell produces while the 9570 has dual fans for the CPU.

Using XTU, I got my chip up to 3.9GHz yesterday but it hit 91C max which is too close to the throttle at 95C for any practical uses so I usually just use XTU to take 80mV off the core and let it dynamically clock itself. I usually end up with 3.79Ghz doing that with 85C max but if it's a very multithreaded app, the processor will drop down to either 3.59 or 3.69GHz at the same temps.

The nice thing about XTU is if you mess anything up, the system will detect it and reboot. Unless it's the RAM. I wouldn't mess with the RAM settings as that can cause the computer not to POST and you'll have to pull the CMOS battery so I haven't messed with memory at all.

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Hi guys I found this thread stating that the Intel i7 4960x can be overclocked to 5.86ghz in this thread Extreme Overclocking, This isn’t Your Daddy’s Core i7 - Inside Scoop

 

Dude, they're using liquid nitrogen for cooling, and likely got lucky with the chip.

And why are you going for the most expensive CPU if you've never overclocked before? Does that make any sense?

 

That's in a desktop. You will probably be able to achieve 4.1GHz with tweaking in the laptop, maybe more, maybe less (the Silicon lottery isn't an exact science). I'm curious why you went against my advice and ordered the 4960X as opposed to the 4930K. Members of this forum have been reporting the K chip to achieve better results than the significantly more costly X chip.

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No I didn't order still I will order it but I'm still researching the best and cheapest specs

 

I think I gave some pointers in my past posts no?

 

Oh sorry I forgot about your last posts I have much work lately and I keep forgetting a lot but your post were helpful I will right the specs that I will choose from xotic pc

 

You know you might do best to call their sales team and work out a build with them. They can customize it to your needs and recommend the best parts for you. That might be the best way to go with the build.

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I think you need to step back, evaluate exactly what you want the machine for and then proceed forward.

 

Looking at the original config that OP spec'd out, it seems he simply went for the most expensive option in each category.

 

Hi guys I have a question I recently read about mythlogic so I want to know which is better mythlogic or sager also does mythlogic ship outside us or internationally