Just hoping someone can help I know im not a forum member or only just re registered , But looking at posts some arsehole has upset prema that much that his flashs aint around anymore my p170 run a dream after his BIOS upgrades ,
im getting terrible terrible fps in games starts off at 60fps in bf1 for 5 mins then slowly goes down , also im overheating so im going to do the usual repaste cpu gpu at weekend , my cpu is hitting 98 degress spiking everywhere , so I need to undervolt it , my gpu just seems run like an 870 equivalent its really making me pull my hair out , and also having a locked bios and no where to find a prema bios or similar its distressing ,
what can I offer ! how about my MRS she hates me at moment as im constantly trying to fix this
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Re-paste and clean, a prema bios will not fix high temps.
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it will fix the lagging gpu though hopefully
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
If it's too hot it will slow down, fix an anomaly then test again before drawing conclusions.
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Prema Bios is not needed in your case. Infact it would make your system far worse.The FPS drops and poor performance are caused by the high temperatures your system is having. Prema Bios lets you overclock more, hence increasing the heat, all it would do is send your notebook to the grave.
I have the same system as you do. I know all it's flaws and cooling is one of them. It also has garbage sound drivers, massively loud fan problems etc. That being said, the stock Bios in our system is actually really decent. -
goin order a new one from scan 3xs , (there 2 mins from home and ive used them for 20 years loyalty counts ) this is an old laptop now this , found some paste last night arctic silver 5 applied to cpu , also under volted a tiny bit temps are sound now , just cannot get 60fps with bf1 steady , i74810mq 980m 8gb 16gb RAM 256ssd doesn't seem cut it any more , tried driver after driver for gpu think im goin get a 1080 don't know when the new cards are out or what time scale
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Don't bother, not your notebooks fault.
The game has performance issues, Dice messed up. Your notebook should easily be able to handle 60fps.
also if you plan on getting a new notebook, get an MSI GT 73VR or MSI GT 75. No need to stay with clevo until they understand that their customers shouldn't have to mod their notebook to get the quality what they paid for. -
Cheers Danish ! I thought it should handle it 2 , but I can get just about 60fps on bf3 which should be destroying 80fps , I just got to my wits end with it , I can leave this notebook for work or I can get 400 for it I reckon hopefully
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in Bf3 you should have around 100FPS.
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Cheers matey , what do you need from me , just in work laptops here with me
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For now play BF1 or 3, while playing have HWinfo64 open in the background while starting logging. When done, send me the CSV file here. From there I should be able to figure out whats going on.
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cheers matey when I get chance ill have a quick blast thanks for your help matey
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it wont let me send the csv file
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You can zip it and then it will let you.
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got it up zipped for you matey , sorry took so long I finished work yesterday had to do every choire possible with my daughter pick her up from school swimming then dancing , by time I finished all that from being up from 6am , my little one has put me bed as im flaked out
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MahmoudDewy Gaming Laptops Master Race!
You are 3 degrees away from thermal shutdown. You CPU and GPU have thermal throttling flags almost all the time. Repaste is your only logical option now. -
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As you can see your power draw of the CPU is rather low. Maxed out at 45W, despite that, the thermals are at thermal throttling point and your clocks massively fluctuate, this is caused by improper cooling. You will need to repaste your notebook. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Touching the power much never helped much I found, it was undervolt, repad and re-paste and aim for 3.9ghz ish.
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thanks for your help guys im going choose a different paste what are you recommending I repaste with the stuff I have must be pants I had artic 5 few years old
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Thermal grizzly or ice diamond would do the trick.
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MahmoudDewy Gaming Laptops Master Race!
Anything other than IC Diamond doesn't do well with my Clevo. Any paste would work good for a week and then pump out and the temps hir the roof.
With how "not good" old Clevo heatsinks are, IC Diamond is your best bet. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Thinning the pad 0.5mm helps.
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cheers boys , much much appreciated
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Your thermal paste is fine, I think you might not have used enough, that being said, you need to repaste your graphicscard as well, this one will need ICDiamond tho. Anything else is pointless since the fit is absolute horrible.
Once you repasted your notebook with ICDiamond on GPU and CPU with whatever you like (might as well use ICDiamond for this as well, since it is superior to artic silver 5), send me a private message. I can show you how to get proper control of your CPU. -
IC Diamond 7 or Gelid Extreme for poor fitting laptop coolers.
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respasted gpu and cpu , I did a go on bg4 earlier couldn't get 60fps constant , temps are a lot lower so ill upload my file
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
If everything is running up to speed then maybe tweak some detail settings?
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Once you uploaded we could figure out whats goin on.
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just done 10 mins why in work
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Did it lag for you?
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Got fps about 40 , wasn't good don't know why it underperforms
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
What was your GPU/CPU frequency/usage? If clocks are maintaining and usage is consistent then it's at the limit of the hardware.
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your clockspeeds are now good, same goes for thermals.
However, I need to ask, what NVIDIA driver are you on?? Watch the video to understand what Ngreedia has done.
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ill check video now my drivers are 411.90 latest I think , I ran furm ark for 15 mins my gpu hits 85 degrees after 7 minutes if that ok for furmark to hit that temp after 7 mins
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Every generation people claim Nvidia gimp the performance, but the benchmarks tend to find that's false, yes the new cards pull ahead over time but they have room to be tuned as new architectures.
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