p870dm-g 1070 sli upgrade teaser

It's down to the standard GDDR5x arrangement to accommodate the high bus speeds, it just does not fit with the standard mounting.

 

Any Ideas if volta will be better? Compatibility Wise I mean

 

That's quite an intimate question on an unreleased product.

 

Haha maybe u have some inside info? Lmao no all good man just hoping we go back to some regular MXM Designs so people don't have to buy all new laptops just to use new GPUs

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It's more of what answer can you expect on something like that

It's going to come down to what the memory bus wants to do and the recommended layout from Nvidia who used to sort this themselves.

Now it's in the lap of the board makers it becomes hard to justify the expense of going off spec.

 

HBM2 will be used I'm assuming... Will that be compatible with current gen products... Not many people have the money to buy a whole new product every year or 2. Some people are just getting to buying 980Ms now as they have dropped in price... But 1080s won't be an option for these people as they won't work with many previous gen laptops. So hopefully Volta will be better

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Considering the usual issues of MXM along it's probably best to take a wait and see approach.

 

Rather expect GDDR6. Cheaper and not much slower.
Edit. See also Samsung starts GDDR6 production that offers bandwidth of 18Gbit/s

 

8GB of HBM2 would be awesome since 4gb isn't enough these days and it'll free up some space on the board.

 

SK Hynix Marks its 8Gb GDDR6 Memory Chips "Available" in Latest Catalog Update
"Unless NVIDIA decides that the GTX 1080-successor should feature 16 GB of memory, the company could be in the market for 8 Gb GDDR6 chips."

 

HBM is still not cheap/easy to put in.

 

for a normal 1070 "msi version" its possible only solder the sli connector?, or do any other mod

Thanks

 

Those are some fine pitch connections and not a very common connector from my quick searching. Then you have the VBIOS to worry about.

 

I bought two 980m from Mr. Lee, they were magically damaged at the end of the warranty, so I have where to get the connectors, but then VBIOS is easy to get?

 

We are updating our EURO 1070 MXM3 card to SLI version in late of March. It is standard 82x105mm MXM3.0b size so it will fit in most of laptops that support MXM3.0b. As long as your system has eDP display and/or it is Optimus based it should work.

 

Really????? thats good news!!!

Thanks

 

With same power limit?

 

Great new for us all with "forced outdated" SLI laptops!

 

Just wondering, is this plug and play with heatsinks? Or do they/ and chassis need to be modified?

 

If it's the standard format MXM-B then it would physically fit.

 

What about the MSI's? They are odd shaped, and seem to fit in the picture, but I would like confirmation before I can make a decision

 

Single card needs minor heatsink work with the old bigger 980DT heatsink

SLI: technically they don't fit as the slots are too close together for the wing+tab on the MSIs, but the OP here just sat the slave card on top overlapping the master (with some electrical insulation just to be safe) and it seemed to work. The heat pipes could be bent to accommodate the slight angle.

Longevity from bending the pcb (since the spring loaded mounts around the core would be forcing a slight bend) would be the only concern I think

Drivers and 1.013V crash maybe, if you somehow manage to get borked rev 02S 1st run 1070 SLI MSIs.

 

Would I need the 980DT heatsink for sli?

 

980dt heatsink prevents the use of SLI as it occupies both fan/rad areas.



You want the separate master and slave 980M heatsinks, three pipes and one rad each, see the pics at the start of this thread

 

I can do that, thanks for you help. Aside from modifying drivers, is there anything else I should know?

 

That typically SLI is game dependant. Just be aware if it's going to help with the extra investment or if a single 1070 with the large heatsink might be your best bet.

 

Thanks, but the games I play usually have great scaling or can run off of an iGPU

 

I just managed to get my hands on a clevo P870dm-g. Concindentally my gtx 1070 mxm decided to die at the same time too.

So my question is to @TheDantee I remember you posted a taobao link on some thread which had the gtx 1070 with sli connector shown. I was going to purchase two of those cards until I deleted the damn link from my bookmark page. Spent hours trying to find it on taobao but it doesn't help when everything is in Chinese.

If possible can you please link that gtx 1070 mxm card here.

 

My 1070 also died recently.... Best is to check eBay for the model with the SLI Connector on it as its easier... I do have the link here - https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...F6DtQB&id=542762161520&ns=1&abbucket=1#detail

 

honestly seems to be the easiest, about to get one with all heatsinks fully fledged for under 1k

 

did you end up getting that P870DM for 1050? It was a really good price

 

I put in an offer of 950, he said yes, I'm currently in the process of getting my paycheck, when that happens, welp goodbye Ranger!

 

Thank you bro, much appreciated!

I'm gonna buy 4, two for my clevo P870dm-g, one for my alienware 18 which my original died in and finally one for my eurocom tornado f5 which I have successfully installed a 8600k into.

I hope this guy gives me a good deal.

Any recommended toabao agents?

 

He refused to ship to Canada so I got my 1070 off ebay... Best of luck with him

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I will definitely be using an agent, most likely superbuy to ship the item then. The seller won't know as the cards will go to a warehouse close by. Then superbuy will ship them to me.

I won't be able to get any discount then either, but looking at the price it's definitely worth it.

 

How does that work?

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So you open the link in the agents website through the url search bar. You buy the item THROUGH the website. Superbuy asks you for your details i.e. PayPal details and so on...
Once you have done that they will buy the product from the seller on taobao and the product will be shipped to superbuy.

At this point the mxm cards have arrived at the warehouse. You have a choice between super slow shipping or way quicker shipping to canada. Of course I would choose the quicker shipping which in this case is DHL. 1/10 they will check the package when imported and MAY charge you a certain import fee. There is mearly a 10% chance of that happening though. Max fee is roughly $50 so its not that bad, defo worth the risk in my opinion.

Need more info just go on their website and click on help. It's really useful to have people order your stuff but you have to make sure they send pictures of the item before shipping it to you just incase the seller tries to rip you off.

So the total cost of the thing and an additional cost of probably around $20-$30 is added to the total. Including shipping to you etc. Really not a bad deal lol.

 

All these upgrades I'm doing will be posted on the fourm including bios's IF the owner of the bios mod gives permission otherwise I will not.

 

What Bios mod?

 

Eurocom tornado f5 coffee lake support bios mod. Including up to an i5 8600k. i7 wont work due to 12 threads which the laptop simply can't support. At least I have been told that.

I will definitely try a 8700k in the laptop though, no harm in trying right?

 

8700K Bios mod IIRC

 

cant support 12 threads? odd.... No harm trying it

 

The P870dm-g can support a 8700k. My future laptop setup will hopefully have the 8700k, 2 gtx 1080's (msi edition, use two eurocom tornado f5 heatsinks, solder heatpipes together) in sli if possible, 32gb ddr4 ram, 2tb ssd, a 4k screen and finally the 780w adapter.

That would be a true 'desktop' replacement as it would give my ryzen setup a run for its money. Plus the clevo is portable, a bonus point for me. I won't need anything better for years to come.

The eurocom laptop is simply being used as a uni laptop for me. It doesn't need to be spectacular performance wise which is why I bought an i5 8600k anyway.

 

Sounds like a dream come true

 

I was thinking of buying a P870TM Heatsink for the extra heat pipe to use in my P870DM-G do let me know how the Tornado F5 Heatsinks work though... Also there are 2 MSI 1080 Models one with the Core on the upper portion of the card and one near the bottom you will have to make custom heatsinks for it to cool in the P870DM-G kinda not to mention its a little wider than the MSI 1070 so you might not be able to fit 2.

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Not sure if the TM heatsink will fit without modification. I believe @Mr. Fox was considering that for his DMG. I'm waiting for the 1100 series before I upgrade my DMG: either I'll get a more powerful GPU or I'll get a cheaper 1070 as supply increases from people upgrading.

 

@bloodhawk has it his DM3 I don't know if they work differently though

 

It will not fit without modifications in the DM3 and the fans are totally different in the DM-G, so expect even more work to try to make it fit. One of the mods required to use the TM1 heat sink for the DM-G, DM3 or KM1 is that you have to shorten the stand-off posts for the CPU heat sink screws. Otherwise, the heat sink won't even come close to touching the CPU IHS. And, you have to cut a notch out in the back of the metal motherboard support frame. I'm sure @bloodhawk or @Prema can explain, as both have the TM1 heat sink in a DM3.

 

At moment neither spoke of "it" is allowed, because you've not invested time or money and you are not involved in project anyway

 

I've ordered both gtx 1070's available in the link will see what happens.