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    p870dm2/3 vs GT73VR 6RE

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Rahego, Oct 19, 2016.

  1. Rahego

    Rahego Notebook Consultant

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    I am new here, wanted to say Hello at beginning. Read a lot of threads about OC and cooling stuff - this is what interest me the most. I really amaze by things u do.


    I am using 7 years old PC - ive done everything to make it work that long. It still can run witcher 2 and other games but its time for change - my budget is +/- 10k PLN( live in Poland) which is 2564 $ or 2325 euro.

    I writing coz i have doubts. When i was waiting for Pascal, the choice was clearly a p870dm coz of amazing performance and temps/noise + easy access to guts. After few reviews and many many many opinions about new p870dm3/2 I cant say if it still machine for me. I am interested in version with 6700k, 1440 or 1080 and 1x1080 but couldn't find any youtube videos about how loud it is/temps. Only dm3 with 2x1080 which sounds like hair dryer. I interested in solid machine, that will stay with me for looong time, the one that i can tweak when there will be need for it. Im not some crazy about OC or something, 4-4,4 ghz is fine. Machine is mostly for games. Would love to play witcher 3 at silence, no more talking from gf that my pc sounds like tractor. There is still some time coz polish clevo re sellers do not have 1x1080 dm3 option atm.

    And there is another machine, MSI will cost me same as dm3 but it is with 1070 only and notebook processor 6840hk. In exchange it is cold, silent and have really good reviews. Another important thing is 120 hz screen.
    I really like look of clevo but its not enough to choose machine that have to serve me for at least 4-5 years.

    And here is my question, do u think that dm3 can go cold and silent without all this stuff like switching fans(g751 asus) or
    delidding the processor and such? Do you think that is worth to risk on clevo?
     
  2. Prostar Computer

    Prostar Computer Company Representative

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    The 1070 will run cooler than the 1080, thereby you'll probably have the GPU fan run quieter. The P870DM can get loud at max fans. With a single 1080 and good thermal compound, it might not be bad - it will depend on how much you stress it.
     
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    kennyman Notebook Consultant

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    gt73vr + silent option - don't look back!
     
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  4. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Accept nothing but the best! The P870DM3 with a Dual 1080 GTX and no, it doesn't sound like a hair dryer as long as you get it from a reputed reseller like HIDevolution who do awesome paste jobs using the X Cross method with IC Diamond and they will also offer the Prema BIOS/VBIOS as soon as it's finished. You will have to raise your budget a bit though.

    See my review here: EVOC P870DM3 Review by Phoenix

    They are the only system builder that offer factory CPU delidding which lowers temps by as much as 10C. If you delid the CPU yourself, the CPU warranty is void so having that option from the factory is awesome

    As long as you undervolt the CPU a bit (which I can help you with once you get your laptop), the laptop is silent unless it was on extreme load. I never notice the fans spinning loud in my usage to be honest and even when they do spin, it's nothing abnormal and it's expected from such a highend machine.

    You can't have a V12 Car and expect it to be silent now can you? If you care about noise, by a Ford Focus :D (just sayin')

    Also, if you email [email protected] and tell him your NBR forum's username, u can get a small discount

    Benefits of Prema BIOS:


    • Fixes the biggest issue with these Clevo laptops where they would throttle the CPU as low as 2.5 GHz the moment both the CPU & GPU are under load due to current issues with the Clevo Stock BIOS/EC Firmware.
    • The ability to disable other drives connected to your system without physically removing them from your laptop, this comes in handy when installing Windows as you never want to have more than one drive connected at the time you are installing Windows otherwise the Windows setup will place the boot files on the 2nd drive it sees which hurts performance and makes it a headache when creating system images or restoring since the boot files are not on the main drive.
    • The ability to overclock, increase Turbo Power Limits and System IA/Core Current Limits
    • The ability to enable Intel Speed Shift Technology (it is disabled in the stock BIOS)
    • The ability to run RAM with speeds higher than the standard 2133 MHz. I am not talking about overclocking here, I am talking about actual RAM sticks that are rated to run at 2800 MHz for example like the G.Skill 64GB 2800 MHz kit I have. With the stock BIOS, they will not run above 2400 MHz. In the case of the P870DM3, the stock BIOS now supports up to 2666 MHz. I believe but not more, so the Prema BIOS is a must again
    • Fixes the instability with the G.Skill 3000 MHz. RAM using XMP Profile 1 with timings of 16-18-18-18 where in the stock BIOS you would have constant crashes or not be able to boot altogether so you’re forced to use XMP Profile 2 which is slower with 18-18-18-18 timings.
    • The ability to enable CSM for those who want to install other OSes like Windows 7
    • The ability to undervolt the CPU as the stock voltage is way too high which causes the CPU to overheat much quicker and thus throttle under load.
    • The ability to enable or disable CPU AES instructions or Virtualization
    • The ability to disable hibernation from the BIOS
    • Sets the default keyboard lights from blue to white which suits more tastes

    Benefits of Prema VBIOS:


    • Power throttle disabled
    • Over-voltage slider enabled and adjusted (up to a maximum of 1.2v)
    • Activated and adjusted thermal slider (to keep it cooler if desired)
    • Core overclock slider limit raised
    • Power consumption meter activated
    • Fixed 3D voltage base-line in order to stabilize OCs and voltage-match both cards in SLI systems (based on average ASIC)
    • Thermal protection @ 92c (once*91c are breached the system throttles volts and clocks in order to protect it)
    • Protection against Furmark and Kombustor GPU burnout (AVOID those software even with stock vBIOS)!


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