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    questions regarding Windows 7 install on a sager laptop

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Rogue Tardis, Sep 8, 2010.

  1. Rogue Tardis

    Rogue Tardis Notebook Geek

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    If I have 2 sager laptop.

    1 of them has windows vista and the other has win 7

    now both these os are oem version that came with the laptop

    now say if one day i got tired of vista on one of the sager

    can i take the win 7 install dvd and install it on the laptop that has vista ?

    because it is an oem win 7 install dvd ... i should be able to do this right ?

    or will there be problems ?

    I tried this on a dell laptop with the oem dvd of win xp pro ... it work with out any problems

    :confused:
     
  2. Falcon69

    Falcon69 Notebook Geek

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    Yea, you can.

    However, since it is an oem version that was previously installed on another computer where the MAC address of the motherboard was previously registered with Microsoft, the Windows 7 will not register and will not operate after 30days on a new computer.

    You will need to purchase a new oem or retail version after the 30 days or reformat your hard drive and just keep doing it month after month.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the retail version is licensed to be installed on a desktop and a laptop at same time. My cousin is tech support for Microsoft, and when I purchased a retail copy of XP from him a few years ago, thats what he told me.

    In addition to that, the retail version can later be installed on another pc if later the computer craps out completely on you.

    for this reason only, I will always purchase retail versions.
     
  3. Falcon69

    Falcon69 Notebook Geek

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    Oh, forgot to add.....
    Yes, with XP and previous versions of Windows you were able to just keep putting it on multiple computers. Not legally, but yes.

    With windows 7, you cannot. New security measures prevent that now.
     
  4. Paralel

    Paralel Notebook Evangelist

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    It depends on whether the BIOS has the volume key written for Windows 7 into its table or not. If it doesn't it will reject the OEM version, if it does, then it shouldn't be any trouble.

    You can always re-write the table in your BIOS with the volume key from Sager for Windows 7 if you can fine it and it should work no problem.

    I have a retail version I got for free and I had to call Microsoft in order to transfer the key to another system. What a pain in the rear.
     
  5. tobs

    tobs Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a similar question regarding this matter...

    I have a legit copy of windows 7, downloaded through MSDNAA as an image-file, though. I would like to use this for my new sager laptop (saves me the money for a new license).

    Two things come to mind:

    1.
    I've used it previously on a macbook (just temporarily). Reading the previous posts I am a little bit concerned that my license is now permanently linked to this macbook.. OR .. once uninstalled, I am free to use it on another computer (as long as it is just installed on one machine, that I personally own..)

    2.
    When I order the laptop without OS, it comes completely "naked" with just the BIOS being installed? Thus, I'll need to burn my image-file as a bootable DVD?
    Which burning software is capable of doing so?
    Any other things that I need to be aware of?

    Thanks

    Cheers
     
  6. Epsilon748

    Epsilon748 Notebook Evangelist

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    1. MSDNAA is a little unusual as far as licenses go. They're usually either perpetual Volume license keys (VL) and let you use them repeatedly until the subscription is cancelled or the key deactivated OR they only let you register them once (or a few times) and you'll have to call up the automatic line, tell them you're only using it on one computer, and they'll approve the new install and give you the validation key.

    Either way, burn that image to disk or make it a bootable USB and it should install just fine. At worst, you may have to call them and get it approved (2 minutes on the phone). As long as you only have that image installed on one machine, you are within the use cases defined in the ToS and they'll let you keep using it for as long as you want. No issues there. MSDNAA keys are NOT tied to your system. They are designed as test keys, not technically for everyday use. MSDNAA exists to serve as a course aid for non-commercial purposes. See here

    A real MSDN subscription is much nicer because they're all VL keys and are good for an infinite number of installs.

    2. There are three ways to install Windows 7. I've found burning a DVD to be a pain, but if you want to, use infrarecorder to burn it. It's free software and super easy to use. I prefer to create bootable USB drives since it's just handier and doesn't waste a disk. Instructions (and simple tool if you aren't comfortable with DOS) are here. My personal favorite for windows installs at home is to use Windows Deployment Services (WDS) on my home server to do a network image boot, but that's significantly more complicated (and so much more convenient in the long run for lots of computers!) :D

    As for the bios, that is installed, no worries :D It comes flashed to the motherboard itself, it's not something that can be "uninstalled" persay. You just need to install Windows/Linux/Hackintosh yourself, the hardware bios is there when you get it.
     
  7. Windkull

    Windkull Notebook Evangelist

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    You make me feel like getting MSDN, i'm too lazy to get it even though I think I qualify from my firm since I am a Visual Studio developer...
     
  8. Epsilon748

    Epsilon748 Notebook Evangelist

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    If you have/like MSDNAA it's totally worth it. I got it for free as an employee benefit and it's been extremely useful. Visual Studio/Server 2008 R2/Exchange Server/Windows 7 have made it pretty handy at home and for sys admin stuff at work. You get a ton of license keys too and they're good even after the subscription ends (so long as you saved the images and keys offline)
     
  9. Windkull

    Windkull Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm pretty sure I just have to fill out paperwork to get an MSDN subscription but recently my role has been less pure development and more front end gui scripting and mini utility development. I think I haven't actually used visual studio to compile anything in like 5 months...

    That said I've been learning a bit of C recently because we have a low level programmer on the team doing performance rigorous coding and I've been doing testing/debugging for him :)