repaste job, when, how and what goo

Hey all

I have been searching for a while now, but i cant make up my mind about repasting options.
My clevo has been turning on CPU fans pretty often, so i checked the temps and they seem a bit too high.
Right now after only an hour of browsing and very low PC usage they are at 60-65 C, watching movies it goes higher, and playing crysis 2 for a only a few minutes it reaches 83 C or even more (i dont want to stress it).
Room temps range between 18 to 25 C, so i really dont thinbk its a factor.
My rig is around 6 or 7 months old, came with IC Diamond free upgrade, but very poorly checked (i had to tighten the screws in order to get rid of shutdowns when i first got it... thats in another post tho.). Its bought from malibal.....

The questions would be:
1) Can i ask malibal to send me a free paste to fix this? (i am really far away to send my lappy to them...), i am not sure if this applies to the garantee.
2) If i buy a new paste wich brand/version would be the best? I dont want to spend too much, but i do want a paste that lasts for at least a year without sudennly behaving so poorly like these ty one i have right now (i.e. i DONT want IC Diamond again). I have an old TG2 (thermaltake), but i think thats too bad to use it in my rig, or could it be good enough for a couples of weeks until my paste arrives (i plan on buying it on ebay, with 30 day shipment....), the best i can buy down here is TG1 for around 30 bucks..
3) Do you have a good link to a video manual or other to perform the repaste on a clave P150?
4) And finally if i respaste the CPU, i should also repaste my 7970M GPU? The video card isnt showing as high peaks so far, only round 80 to 83C in really demanding games.

So far i am thinking about this goo:
AS5

But i really aim more at a long term performance, than 1 or 2 degrees lower temps but only 4 months life, i work a lot with my PC, dont play as much.

i thank you all in advance

 

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when was the last time you cleaned the vents and fans out with compressed air. recommended to do every few months and depending on build up ive seen a 10c difference posted on here after it was done.

 

monthly i vacuum it a little, how do you suggest this compressed air cleanup be done?
They do seem to be clean enough tho.

MEN, what a great VIDEO, btw

 

There is also this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...e-guide-upgrading-thermal-paste-your-own.html
Use the compressed air to blow from the inside out making sure you blow through every part of the heatsink.

 

not seen that one. great find Tmets.

 

IC Diamond is always a popular choice and my personal preference. You can find Application instructions here Application

 

I would recommend Arctic Cooling MX-2, MX-3 or MX-4.

 

Big fan of ICD7 also here. Used it on a bunch of laptops now and great performance on all of em. I'd also consider ProLimaTech PK1.

You can get everything you need to do thermals at FrozenCPU.

 

Thanks all for your recs, now i am thinking AS5 is not as good as i thougt.
As i said ICD7 is supposedly what my rig has, and forits use and age it really disspoints me, of course it might very well be just a very poor/bad application, but it worked very well for 3 or 4 months, and now suddenly my temps rise nearly 50%? I really want something that gives me a couple of months more.
I cant find ProLimaTech PK1, only PK2 and PK3, are this better or worse than PK1??
Same for Arctic Cooling MX-2, MX-3 or MX-4. I find only 2 and 4.

Again i ask:
I have an old TG2 (thermaltake), but i think thats too bad to use it in my rig, or could it be good enough for a couples of weeks until my paste arrives (i plan on buying it on ebay, with 30 day shipment....), the best i can buy down here is TG1 for around 30 bucks..

Should i try it or better NOT???

So which one is best in each cathegory?

Usefull info in this thread would be the normal TEMP ranges for certain CPUs/GPUs, so we can really detect temp issues.

 

Rereading your original post you listed 80-83C but you didnt want to push it any further. Its pretty typical for the GPU to get to those temps quickly and often times will stay there. If you've cleaned out the fans and vents go ahead and stress it. The video card has thermal protection which will shut the computer off around 104C to prevent damage. If you stay in that range thats pretty typical and honestly nothing to worry about.

 

Thanks, but the problem is not my GPU, but my CPU, its the CPU thats peaking 83 C or more, my GPU has never went over 85 if i dont recall wrong
So the question is if that CPU temps are normal and safe, specially considering they used to be far lower (45 to 50 idle, and 65 or 70 at max stress)

 

That is higher then ideal for the CPU. If you've clean out the fans and vents and are using it on a flat surface the next thing to do is to reapply thermal compound. IC Diamond usually doesnt lose its cooling ability that quickly. I've gone years without having to redo it. But blocked vents and fans can make the temps raise quickly. Have you opened up the bottom panel to clean those out?

 

yes i have, but i have not taken out the actual cooling system, because that implies reapplying the goo, wich i dont currently have in hand (well i have the TT TG2 i mentioned, but i am not sure i can use it on this CPU).
I have applied vacuum cleaner to the vents and vent exits, nothing else.

If you say Ic diamond should last for at least a year or more, then i should probably contact malibal and ask them to send my a fresh IC diamond free of charge? They messed it up from the beggining, my laptop shut itself down when it just came, tightening the heat sink fixed that issue, and now 5 months after i am facing temp issues? My bet is they applied the goo VERY wrongly and probably not even the IC diamond they were suppossed to.

 

Vacuum cleaner on the outside helps a little. To really remove the dust you need to open up the bottom so you can get right at the fans and vents. Dont use a vacuum for that though as it can cause static electricity which can cause major problems. Get a can of compress air from any electroincs store and use that.

 

besides fan cleaning, i repeat my former questions, i want to buy a good paste anyway:

I cant find ProLimaTech PK1, only PK2 and PK3, are this better or worse than PK1??
Same for Arctic Cooling MX-2, MX-3 or MX-4. I find only 2 and 4.

Again i ask:
I have an old TG2 (thermaltake), but i think thats too bad to use it in my rig, or could it be good enough for a couples of weeks until my paste arrives (i plan on buying it on ebay, with 30 day shipment....), the best i can buy down here is TG1 for around 30 bucks..

Should i try it or better NOT???

 

As long as your thermaltake is still good you could use it since your CPU temps are currently higher then ideal. If its really old it could be dried up, you'll be able to see once you check the tube.

 

Gelid extreme is also a very solid choice for a repaste.

 

try running intel extreme tuning which should be pre loaded but if not its in my sig below.
all 4 cores were running 100% and 3 of the 4 cores were at 94-96c and throttling was upto 34% which is normal to protect the cores.
ive now got new mx2 and the max it hits now is about 84c on full load using above and with 0% throttling so no matter what thermal paste you use it will make a difference.

 

All you need is:

 

I ran it for about 2 minutes, could not see the different cores usage and temps, but my core temp peaked 95C with 0% throttle, would that be normal, how long should i ran it? I cancelled it after 2,5 mins aprox when temps were peaking 95...
dont want to burn the damn thing

Reviewing some articles gelid GC-extreme indeed looks very good, i found this offer on ebay, looks VERY cheap for such a great goo:

GELID GC-extreme

UPDATE***
Malibal is shipping me a complimentary IC diamond 7, sadly not to Chile, but anyway i got something from their support.

 

the test runs for 5 minutes or you can change it to hours if you want (dont do it)
there are two spanners along the top. if you click on the left spanner it will open a box with all the tick options.
i have cpu utilization / cpu throttling / cpu core temps 1.2.3.4 all ticked. you can change the colours to your liking.
close that box and click the spanner in top right and i have all them ticked.
then run it for 5 minutes.
must admit the first time i ran it i was like you and closed it after 2 minutes as id never seen cores go that high before. this software seems to push the cores much more than the older fur mark and prime 95.

 

intel XTU is my favorite CPU test now too, but thermal paste does make a difference at the very high end. Not so much for a stock unit.

 

I am sorry for my late reply, i really had a long break on this matter, too much work to play or even try anything.
The story ended quite happily, and i would like to REC hutsady on this reply,
I did buy and receive GELID GC extreme, but before applying it i decided to try this compressed air i finally found in an electronics store *cost me 3 times less than in the PC store...).
Long story short i cleaned the vents properly, took out the fans and found out quite a bit of lint and dust, it really didnt look like much, but i decided to close it up again and retest my temps.
To my surprise i got a solid 20 Celsius drop in CPU temps, GPU temps went down their share as well (they were not an issue for me anyway).

Now i work with 35 to 42C CPU temps, not even iddle, this is with several browser/tabs opened, windows mail, this forum, the works. Even downloading torrents and playing an HD movie to my plasma while working i dont surpass 50 C in my CPU.
In games it goes up to a MAX of 60/62C, GPU maybe tops 70 or 73.

So this is a world of difference just by making the proper cleanup sugeested by Hutsady.

I feel real dumb, i never beleived it could be such a HUGE difference, i paid my "high end rig" novice status i guess.
And my GELIC GC ecxtreme paste is on the market right now, lol, unopened.

thanks HUTSADY and FYI for you all:
Clean your vents properly, every other month!

PS: its really a bummer you guys dont accept foreign credit card payments, i would definetely buy from you in the future if you would. I hate MALIBAL alltogether, but i have to give it to them they took my payment, and now i am a clevo fanatic with no shop to buy for future upgrades/replacements.

 

Glad to hear cleaning it out did the trick. As you've seen dust and lint can build up pretty quickly in there and it because of how much the fans spin. I'd suggest doing it every 6 months or so or when ever you see temps start to rise.
Using international cards is something we've looked at doing several times, unfortuneatly we havent found a good solution for it yet. Paypal for international orders may become an option too, still trying to work out the details on that.

 

I've been told that when cleaning it with the compressed air the fan should not move right ? Do i have to hold it steady, blow reversed ?

( I mean when we disassembly it, not on a running machine ofcourse )


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Right you can damage the ball bearings in the fan if you let it spin with the compressed air. Hold it steady some how, putting a pencil in there to stop it usually does the trick.

 

Also while fans act like motors, if you make them spin manually they will act as generators which is not going to be good.

 

Wish i knew i shouldn t let the fans sopin when cleaning, seems i did not break anything, good to know for next cleanup tho.

OFF topic:
About the VISA card, Malibal ask me additionally for a picture of myself holding my ID document and the card, i assume for further reassurance, did not like that in particular, but had to do it to get the machine. I also shipped the laptop to my uncle in the US, so the only international thing would be my card, which i use frequently in amazon and other US stores (bought a wonderfull ultrabook last cybermonday).
I understand we are not talking small money, so you have to take your assurances, but it will be great to have access to your store in the future, i am sure many chilean (I am from CHILE) customers will race to buy from you.

 

There has been quite a lot of fraud with that sort of thing in the past so companies are very cautious, it does protect consumers too.