reseller profits

Now, Clevo has to have some of the MOST resellers of any i've seen. (probably not, but they have alot) So we can basically check how much processors and different things cost. But not how much resellers get for whole sale discounts on laptop graphic cards and the m570/901c barebones, etc... So wat do you guys think resellers make profit on EACH unit. SO its just "wat we pay - the parts" forget labor costs for this. This is just a curiousity thing. Obviously Justin might be privy to this from xoticpc, but i doubt he'll reveal private company information, nor do i expect him to.

 

<$500 ----------

 

near cost at times... if you are wondering.

Its very competitive to have so many vendors... they have to find a niche (with service, support, different warranties).

If you are an established boutique brand that brands themselves with an nice coat of paint and/or an alienhead, you can charge more since you differentiate yourself from the others.... however, price is a key factor for a majority of buyers.

Alienware used to sell Clevo gaming notebooks, now they find that they can get more attention if they get exclusive models through an ODM that they can contract with.

VoodooPC still sells the high end Clevo's but might be taking the same road as Alienware... since they might not be able to get better sales due to other vendors selling the same system but for a much better price (less the custom paint job or other case mods that some feel are subjective)

 

The real answer is the margins on Sager laptops are single digit...that is less than 10%...generally in the 5-8% range.

 

<$200 at most.

 

Well, whaddya expect? Ya gotta slap all sorts of funky fibreglass lumps on the case, and stuff em full of weenie little leds if you want to charge a "premium" for the product!

 

LOL.... its funny because its true.

 

*** haunting, monkey-like howls from the Alienware forum ***

 

you forgot something.

 

Yeah you did forget something-- you also have to throw in terrible customer support in order to charge a premium. The more the premium, the worse the support.

 

wow. i didn't even have to say it. you win a rep.

 

If Clevo would only make it as flashy as M1730,they would get a good price.

 

When

At least on the flashy part!

 

has your pet pig been drinking red bull?

 

I'd say the reseller profit margin is little, but with more and more people defecting from Dell and Alienware to Sager, we're going to increase their quarterly profits! Woohoo!

Also I'd like to point out the fact that I like my NP9262 for its very low profile looks, because non-believers look at it as not being a portable monstrosity when really it flattens every program that I have thrown at it so far.

 

Profits for laptops, as Paladin said, are tiny.

I've been saying that here for a long, long time, yet no one believes me. Everyone thinks that because a laptop is 1-2k, that there must be a few hundred dollars profit. If that were the case, then I'd be in the laptop business before you could blink.

 

w0rd up homies... thats crazy tho. these companies must be sellin ALOT of laptops then to keep up with just the costs of running such a company (employees, production facility, etc..)

 

Are you telling us that, e.g., Voodoo PC, Alienware, and other boutiques of similar ilk do not make higher than average profits notwithstanding the premiums they charge?

 

No. My arguments are usually in the Dell/HP subforums, where people complain that Dell/HP don't let them combine a 10% coupon and a $300 off coupon, when they're completely oblivious to the fact that Dell/HP is actually losing money on that sale. Boutique shops are excluded from those figures. Stupid people are quickly parted with their money.

Hopefully into my pockets.

 

:laugh:

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Shyster - I hope you're right about that. The flash aint my thing, and I like the Clevo design just fine.

Voodoo must rake in the margins. You can't spend that much on shiny paint, can you?

 

Where Voodoo makes up in price, loses in sales quantity.
I believe that it also depends on the laptop.
Higher end ones provide a better gain,and not just in percentage.

 

True enough. Still, from the buyer's point of view, I'm not sure if a boutique like Voodoo provides real value-added, but then again, I've never been a big connoisser of or

 

You must be too old to understand the bling-bling concept .
On another note, I really appreciate when something looks nice, willing to pay a decent premium over an ugly thing, but only if it makes sense at the time and if it will matter. It's like buying an amazingly good looking car on the outside, but stupid as hell on the interior design part. The chicks digg it, but do you?

 

Not too old to understand it; just too old to buy into it (any more ) - bling-bling's probably the third-oldest "profession" in the world, right there behind taxes and street-walking.

 

One thing I realised, when you have a lot of money, nothing is an issue and you want to show it(provided that your brain has no common sense to stop you from being an arse)

 

I was going over this in some economic classes.

There is "old money," which are people that like to not show off their money, but are loaded without the appearance of having wealth (very modest)
- Example: old guy walks onto a car lot with basic old clothes, salesman thinks hes just lost or a bum, but he shows the salesman a paper bag.... the salesman thinks is probably boos (alcohol).... but it turns out to be enough cash to buy any car on the lot.

There's "new money," which is mainly described to the new/currently generation that likes the bling-bling to show off their wealth (not modest)... and likes to "keep up with the Jones's" .... even if they rake up a lot of debt
- Example: has nice car, nice house... all exterior.... but probably has no furniture inside the house.

 

I`m all about balance. People don`t need to know more than you about yourself.
Even if you can afford something, it makes to sense to show off.
You`ll end up either being robbed or envied and neither is good.

I wonder if resellers drive Porsches

 

No Porsches in my garage...if I had an empty garage

 

You should get one, as they're great cars.

 

@Gophn, I have a decent car, but I don't owe any debt.
so, I belong to "modest"? lol

 

Monkey like? ROOFLE.

 

Old money is the way to be... Modesty is just being pimp. Cuz then wen ppl do find out about the truth on their own, its like, wow how modest is this guy! as compared to the a$$h0le whose like EVERY1 STARE AT MEEE

 

20 down, 20 up........ now damn...

 

AND its CHEAPER than wat i was payin for DSL from them... but thats offtopic lol

 

Thats about industry average profit margin for most buisnesses though except for googles and apple type companies. I mean even private oil companies (BP, Chevron ect) profit margins are usually under 10%

 

not true. especially for restaurants.

 

? well its true for oil companies and retail companies most car companies maybe not restaurants but thats more service than buisness imo.

From CNN.com

The average net profit margin for the S&P Energy sector, according to figures from Thomson Baseline, is 9.7%. The average for the S&P 500 is 8.5%. So yes, energy companies are more profitable than many others...but not by an inordinate amount.


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oh and google had a 25% profit margin in thier latest quarter..hmmm

 

There is a BIG difference here. What you are talking about is PROFITS while the numbers I gave are for MARGINS...that is the difference between what we pay and what we sell them for, and then we have to pay all of our expenses out of that. Our PROFITS are just about 1/2%.

See my post #4 of this thread.

 

I'm curious Donald, given that Clevo and their resellers are not that well known...at least compared to the Dell's and Alienwares of the world. How much would a single reseller sell on average of say the most popular system, which seems to be the NP5793?

 

Now that is the missing piece isn't it?

I think we have gone far enough with confidential information...

 

it took 5 pages to actually get to my secondary point without my help ... which is obviously, With little profits, as i suspected. THere must be ALOT of lil' 2-3%'s adding up in the end to make all this worthwhile. WHICH THEN brings me to my point. DAMN there are alotta ppl out there in this world who just keeping buying these systems no matta how expensive. I bet the ppl in this sager forum represent less than 1% of most high-end sager product owner (i.e. 570/901)

 

"1/2%" - as in one half of one percent, or 0.5%, or as in somewheres between 1% and 2%, inclusive?

 

one half of one percent = 0.5%

And yes, this forum represents a very, very small percentage of the high end Sager product owners. It is hard to tell exactly, but certainly less than 5%

 

Obviously not many people visit the forums, but you never know how many read the forums and are influenced by one's post.

 

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Totally true!

There are at least 10 people viewing the forum for every member who posts here.

 

oh boy... i have my own 10 random viewers... how exciting! i bet ones reading this rite now!

 

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To my adoring fans, I say. Thank you and god bless.

In reference to the topic, it seems to me the resellers make a healthy enough profit to stay in the business. If they all close down in a few years, well then, we all know what happened.

 

Well, the past 10 years are littered with unsuccessful sager resellers. If you go back over this forum alone you will come up with quite a few that went belly up or couldn't deliver.

That goes to show you that a good product isn't enough to warrant success.

 

Will you guys give the resellers a break? it`s a job,this is what pays for their food. And jewelry. And cars.And women.And more