sager 5720 with dual core processor

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i just wanted to know if sager 5720 is going to be released with napa processors any soon. i am considering buying this laptop and this option would make me buy it for sure. i want something with geforce 7800 gtx and dual core. anyone knows what would be the price difference between one with pentium m 2ghz and one with napa 2ghz with other components same? thanks

 

Keep in mind that Sager does not produce the notebooks - they rebadge Clevo's - they are an ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) out of Taiwan. You can check their website, www.clevo.com.tw. When they come out with a new notebook that features the Core Duo processor, then Sager might consider rebadging it. That's about all I can tell you for now. . .

 

April was what I heard on the grapevine. Price should be the same. Look at the prices of the Dell duos for a comparison and idea. Personally, I would wait until Memron comes into the scene mid year if I wanted an Intel Dual Core..

 

i wrote to discountlaptops and powernotebooks and they said 5720 should come with dual core in feruary. why wait for memron? what will be the difference compering to todays dual core?

 

Personally, I think that the Core Duo is not worth getting - why buy something now that is going to be replaced in less than a year? I know that you can't stay on the forefront of technology all the time, but I'd rather buy something that doesn't have its replacement in sight yet.

The Memron will improve on the Core Duo - 64-bit support (which would probably be a good thing to look for in a new notebook in 8 months time), 4MB L2 cache, and probably some other little enhancements.

 

i cant wait til september or so for memron, i can wait as long as maybe two months. max. in this situation dont you think it would be worth to wait for arrival of dual core sager in february?

 

Yes - if you cannot wait, then go for the Core Duo, it won't disappoint.

 

Just recieved some news - I've been in contact with a few dealers:

The Sager NP-5720 (Clevo M570A) and NP-5320 (M560A) will be updated in a few months (I'm guessing April?) to the M570U and the M560U.

The M560U will feature the new Intel Core Duo, and will feature an ATI Mobility Radeon X1600.

M570U - also features the Intel Core Duo, and will have the ATI Mobility Radeon X1800PRO graphics card.

Cheers!

 

It'll be most interesting to see how the updated 5720 benchmarks against the current 5720.

Sonoma + Nividia GeForce Go 7800 GTX vs. Yonah + ATI Mobility Radeon X1800 PRO

Put'em in a steel cage death match!!

 

will there be an option to have 5720 with dual core and geforce 7800gtx? how does ati x1800pro compare to geforce 7800gtx? release date in april is quite late. maybe i will go for sonoma 5720. really dont know right now.

 

You'll have to wait for benchmarks to find that out. Nobody knows yet.

 

Do you know when Mermon is going to come out? And is it going to be added on Sager desktop replacement notebooks? I can wait till June/July. I want a dual core 64 bit processor cause I want my new lap top to last at least 4-5 years and be able to run future applications at least semi-smoothly.

 

I can't tell you that, and I don't think anyone can. Merom is still relatively a long way off - fall of '06 is what I heard, and I wouldn't expect the Sager's to be updated for a month or two after that.

Since you can wait until June/July, that is halfway through this year. AMD's dual-core Turion processor is slated for Q2 '06. They are going to be 64-bit, just as the Turion is right now. I'd look for a notebook featuring that to come out when you go to buy. There is very little information on the dual-core Turion processor right now.

 

But what's the difference with the AMD Athlon 64 X2? Also, how long does it usually take Sager to update their processors?

http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6301783.html

He says AMD is cutting prices on Turion chips because it is expected to unveil dual-core Turion processors in coming weeks. AMD still is charging slightly more for its dual-core chips than Intel’s models. But Mosesmann writes that AMD’s dual-core prices have come down quite a bit since they were first introduced to become more competitive with Intel's pricing.

 

AMD is slated to release the Turion dual core in Q2 '06 as far as I know, but that could change.

The difference between the Turion dual core and the Athlon X2? You really should read some technical articles. The X2 is a desktop processor, two Athlon 64 cores on a single chip. The Turion dual core will have two Turion cores on one chip. Search the forums for information on the Turion vs. Athlon, there are too many posts about that.

AMD's dual core X2 destroys Intel dual cores.

Sager doesn't update their processors - Sager doesn't make the notebooks at all, they just customize Clevos. Clevo is an ODM (Original Design manufacturer) out of Taiwan. When they put updates or new notebooks out on the market, Sager may or may not take them up.

 

In reference to the desktop parts this is true. The new Intel Core Duo mobile chips may change that. Almost certainly Intel will hold the lead now with mobile processors but it's still too early to tell. The new mobile Core Duo is a whole new design that puts the Pentium dual core design to shame with some impressive new design features. It's likely the new 1.83GHz duo will hold it's own against the faster Sonoma in single threaded applications while providing the added dual core benefit to multi-threaded apps.

They will debut next week or so in Apple's new laptop, the MacBook Pro. I'm not sure if the new Macs will run Windows to allow direct comparisons to PC hardware but if they do this would be a serious consideration for any new laptop purchase. Apple builds some seriously high quality stuff and is on the cutting edge. Windows based notebooks based on this configuration will follow in the next few months.

MacBook Pro specs for $2499 retail:

15.4-inch TFT display with 1440x900 resolution
1.83GHz Intel Core Duo with 2MB shared L2 Cache
667MHz frontside bus
1GB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
100GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
Slot-load SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory

And of course the latest version of OSX which is fully multi-processor optimized.

I'm really anxious to see how these things run when some enthusiasts get their hands on them and find out if there will be a way to dual boot them. I currently own an older G3 powerbook for five years and still running strong.

AMD is going to have to work hard and not rest on it's laurels so to speak in order to maintain their edge over Intel and their well earned new respect from OEMs and consumers. It's going to be an exciting year for all of us.

Edit: I just learned that Dell has a Core Duo equipped notebook on the market this week, the E1705. I would like to see some tests on this CPU soon.

 

OK i bought a sager 5720 im gettin it this tuesday but now im been a bit skeptic cause now that im readin that there might something better next month...but im wondering if the 5720 is upgradeable cause i love the graphic card but just wanna know if when this dual core's come out i can probably just upgrade the processor like later on the year

 

u cant get pentium m upgraded for yonah. there might be chance to upgrade yonah for memron but im not sure. iam also waiting for 5720 to come out with core duo, but dont like to have x1800gpu, dont really know how it compares to 7800 gtx. i might wait for it to come out and then buy 5720 with pentium m cheaper, as core duo has issues with usb 2.0 devices plugged in.

 

You can't upgrade the processor as stated. Yonah > Merom is supposedly possible, but you'll need a BIOS update, which I doubt will be provided. The reason Intel made it easy to upgrade is for manufacturers; not consumers. They probably don't expect consumers to do so.

The Go7800GTX should be neck and neck with the X1800 according to how the desktop cards compare. I understand this is not a fair comparison to laptop chips, but the best I can come up with.

The X1800 mobility has no benchmarks yet, not even released. You'll have to wait until then to get the numbers.

 

Someone mentioned that Clevco released the duo chip for their line of laptops.. is there an equivalent of the NP 5720? All I've seen are 15in notebooks with the new chip..

If I could find the NP 5720 with duo I think Id have to get it!

 

The core duo 5720 is coming soon, prolly in the next couple of months based on the release of the specs by eurocom and rock and its suppose to be available in germany already.

Hmmh, i might have to get this one for my wife regardless of whether it has 7800 gtx or the X1800. From what i have read the X1800 and the 7800GTX are very close...the battle continues !

 

It's going to have the X1800XT according to what I've read - Rock and Eurocom have both announced models.

It's a Clevo M570U - update to the Sager 5720 aka Clevo M570A.

Mobility X1900/XT shouldn't be too far behind.