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    still no news on nvida gtx 460m or 470m yet?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by shin777, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. Bytales

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    Engadget is wrong because with 192bit bus they can only have multiples of 192 memory. The case is 768 or 1536 wich is 1.5GB. I allready saw a screenshot of 460m and it had 1.5gb of ram.
     
    Bytales, Sep 3, 2010
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  2. Daniel Hahn

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    You should not care about vram size that much, it's also used to mislead uninformed consumers, so that they may be tricked into thinking the GTX 460M or lower cards with 1.5GB memory are better than the MR HD 5870. 2GB or 1GB vram makes not difference in games, unless you play at 2560x1600, which I doubt and would not be playable with mobile cards anyway. So actually its good news since 1,5 GB is GDDR5 is less expensive than 2GB GDDR5. Even 768MB would be enough, but that would probably hurt sales as too many people believe more is better even if it makes no difference for them.

    For comparing GPUs Vantage is more suited, the GTX 460M should reach a GPU P Score of [GPU P Score of the GTX 460 768MB] * ([Shader count of GTX 460M] / [Shader core of GTX 460]) which results in 6634.
     
    Daniel Hahn, Sep 3, 2010
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  3. Bytales

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    I Know ALL ABOUT the ram issues. I'm veteran.
    But gaming in 1080p with AA and AF eats lots of ram.
    The thing with video ram is like computer ram. It doesn't do any damage when it's enough, but once it's not enough you start to suffer.
    So the more you have, the longer the period before you start to suffer.

    I know the 480m has a close to 10k GPU p score and the radeon 5870 has 8000+ something.

    By the looks of it it seems the 460m is gonna end up beneath the 5870.
    I would really like to see a clevo vendor offer 460m 5870 and 470m in a certain laptop, to see how the money rise or fall depending on the gpu choice.
     
    Bytales, Sep 3, 2010
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  4. Daniel Hahn

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    True, gaming with 1080p and AA needs vram, but 768MB - 1GB is enough. In the future games will demand more vram, but once that is the case you will not be able to play those games at 1080p + AA with todays mobile cards anyway so that your 2GB vram will not change anything. But we are left with no choice anyway, since the GTX 470M will just come out with 1,5GB.

    The GTX 460M will clearly be below MR HD 5870. We should contact some Clevo resellers and find out when those cards will come in.
     
    Daniel Hahn, Sep 3, 2010
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  5. kaltmond

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    460M benchmark is already out

    Here
     
    kaltmond, Sep 3, 2010
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    The above link is in German but I ran it through the translate website here. That looks like a great alternative GPU to the ATI 5870 and I think it would work with the W860CU / W870CU laptops.
     
    LaptopNut, Sep 3, 2010
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  7. Bytales

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    Haha, just beneath 5870, as predicted.
    Now i know what GPU i will be gettin; the 470m.

    All we need to know is prices.
    If the 460m is gonna cost more than 5870, than screw it.
    Having said this, the 470m is entitled to cost more than the 5870. We just need to know by how much.

    Looking at the benchmarks it is interesting to observe that mobility radeon 5870 at 1600x900 performs similary to the desktop 5870 at 1080p. To bad i love so much the 1080p screen. It's perfect for watching 1080p content. Esspecialy in a 15" with that pixel density.

    So if you have the 5870 and a 900p screen it's like having a desktop 5870 with 1080p resolution.

    The 15" clevo chasis for instance offers 1600x900 resolution screen togther with 5870.
     
    Bytales, Sep 3, 2010
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  8. LaptopNut

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    I have a 1600 x 900 screen and got it because I don't watch Blue-ray and I wanted better performance for longer at native resolutions. The 460m/470m is looking like a really good option for my laptop but my GTX 285M is not having any problems with anything.
     
    LaptopNut, Sep 3, 2010
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  9. MrDJ

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    MrDJ, Sep 3, 2010
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  10. uracoin

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    but will 460m be a better overclocker? those are the benchmarks i want to see :p
     
    uracoin, Sep 17, 2010
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  11. physib

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    460M compared to what? If you are comparing it to 480M then no.
     
    physib, Sep 17, 2010
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  12. Kevin

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    GF104 and GF106 do overclock better than GF100.

    It's been proven in the desktop scene.
     
    Kevin, Sep 17, 2010
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    erig007, Sep 17, 2010
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    No I mean the top margin.
     
    physib, Sep 17, 2010
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  15. kevindd992002

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    How good will the 470M and 460M be compared with the 285M?
     
    kevindd992002, Sep 19, 2010
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  16. Kevin

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    460M = as good

    470M = clearly better
     
    Kevin, Sep 19, 2010
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  17. kevindd992002

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    So there's no improvement from the 285M to the 460M?
     
    kevindd992002, Sep 19, 2010
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  18. IKAS V

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    Maybe a slight performance gain but you get all the DX11 goodness.
     
    IKAS V, Sep 19, 2010
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