vibration with Fn+3

can you guys feel the vibration from top right corner when you pressed Fn+3 mild fan speed? it is weird because it cause more vibration than full blast/auto mode.

 

Top right corner... where ? Keyboard ? Screen ?

 

top right corner of keyboard

 

No I honestly cant.

 

What firmware do you have?
Get the .h version.
I`ve already been through the vibrating firmware,and I specifically asked Justin to get sager onto it,and they have.
The last version of the firmware,the one from here :
http://64.208.175.44/pages/notebooks/download.cfm?ProductType=5792
, last thing on the page should fix it.
Download the ISO, burn to disk using Nero burn image to disk tool or another similar software,and reboot,follow instructions,listen to beep,reboot,all set.

 

Thanks eleron911. I remember back to few weeks ago Justin told me that my 5793 will come with the latest firmwares. so i hope he is reading this lol
how do i check the firmware version?

 

Okay eleron you've thankfully reminded me of another thing. As I mentioned in my review, me and my friend together purchased 2 Sager 5793s...... and today we were using them side by side, and I noticed how mine on full blast was significantly louder than his.... our machines were shipped together so I take it they're possibly having the same firmware.... But I'd still like to verify and see what firmware we both have.... so where can I check the firmware version... (I forgot ) And if we both have the same and mine is still louder, that'd be worrying Else, if mine is older, I'll see to updating it

 

I actually have no idea how firmware updating will improve the noise level since it's hardware related. unless it lower the rpm.

 

Well, I don`t remember the program with which you could check that, maybe try Everest or SiSoft Sandra since those give pretty detailed specs of the computer..
But you can do something else : flash both computers to the latest firmware and then check.
One thing to be pointed out : even identical systems have different behaviours,and some may come out louder than others.
A system that is dust free and runs cool will probably be louder because the air is not obstructed at all.
A minor difference between noise is probably normal,but you must be aware of the saying : " my neighbours` goat is prettier than mine just because it`s not mine"
So I wouldn`t worry,if it doesn`t bother you.

 

Okay... I'll flash both to the latest firmware And I think you may have a point on the dust... I've used my notebook for almost a month... he just opened his.... and maybe that's why his is quieter than mine on full blast.... maybe I need to clean the fans...

 

I do it every month and get enough dust to plant a tree in it lol

 

Hmmm..... guess it's cleaning time then

 

Same here. In addition, my keyboard makes a rattling noise with Fn+3 mode on, but not with auto or full blast.

 

sometimes my keyboard also starts to rattle a little, but then I just touch it slightly and it stops

 

I told you guys,update to the latest KBC (keyboard controller) firmware from the link I provided on page #1 and you`re all set.

 

Mine is 1.00.07Sh

 

Is that all the time then? the vibration I mean, or only when inserting a disk inside the cd/dvd drive?
If it`s only when Fn+3 mode,I'm pretty sure it`s not the .h version.
Btw, how do you know which one you have? it`s just better to flash to the latest one and make sure

 

I did flash it to the latest version. The vibration is constant and pretty noticeable when the Fn+3 mode is on. It's caused by the smaller fan I guess, and it makes the keyboard vibrate and sporadically emit rattling sound.

 

Then I suggest calling your supplier. It`s probably a faulty fan that doesn`t like med speed and that can deteriorate in time.

 

Something's definitely odd. When the full mode is on, the smaller fan also spins faster than it does with the Fn+3 mode, but there's no vibration for the former. As soon as I hit Fn+3, the fan slows down and makes a whining sound, accompanied by vibration. Does anyone else have this issue? The vibration is most apparent near the top right corner of the frame, near the asterisk key.

 

this is simply against physic laws lol

 

I was going through the fan firmware thread, and I came across this post by lndnny:

That was the exact issue I was having, so I downloaded the version .f, flashed it, and the vibration is no more. But it's a bit louder than before, though.

 

How cool, that particular fan speed matches the key's natural resonance and causes them to vibrate... just how Hitler was trying to find the natural resonance of Jewish people so he could eradicate them with sound... what a retard.

 

louder without any vibration? I can live with that, as long as I don't feel earthquake under my right palm.

 

@eleron911, about the link you posted on first page, it says 1.00.07Sh, isn't the newest version suppose to be 1.00.08?
how the heck you guys found all these firmware but I just couldn't find any?!

 

@Nirvana0001: PM zfactor and he can hook you up with 1.00.08 PLUS a custom boot screen, he rocks.

Custom Boot Thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=246215

Creating and using bootable USB Thumb drive to easily flash BIOS
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=246530

 

I am awaiting for Justin to answer my confusion. will see what happen.

 

technically the newest is version 1.00.08s which is the SAME as 1.00.08 except its branded for sager. otherwise no differences at all i can find i have compared both in the bios editor and they are the same minus branding.

1.00.07sh is simply a update to add the keyboard functions for fan control it can however be used as a full bios with a bit more work from my findings

 

here are the bios releases notice there are 2 .07's the first was the bios update the second was the .07sh release which added the fan controls:

here are notes on the bios releases:

Model: M570RU
Version: 1.00.08
File Size: 560KB
Release Date: 2008/01/31
Update Description:

1.00.08 2008/01/31

1. Solve white frame on POST screen issue.
2. Solve system shuts down when running 3DMark on battery power issue.

1.00.07 2008/01/25 -

1. Change CPU fan and VGA fan speed probe method.

1.00.07 2007/12/18

1. Support nVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTX (hardware needs to support).


1.00.04 2007/11/20

1. Solve it is possible to refresh BIOS fail without /s parameter.
2. Add system doesn't allow refreshing BIOS without AC power function.
3. The Intel Robson setting will not be changed after processing load system defaults.
4. Add warning message to remind that it is necessary to reinstall operation system when somebody wants to change Intel Robson setting.

1.00.03 2007/10/01

1. Add warning tone for VGA fan.
2. Change TPM default setting to Disable.
3. Solve system can't show battery power 100% status when it is full-charged.
4. Support new BIOS EEPROM.

1.00.02 2007/08/23

2. Solve CPU can't run at full speed when system is using battery power limitation.
3. Solve VGA fan is sensitive issue.
4. Solve system UUID is incorrect issue.
Instructions: Bootdisk

 

wow thanks for the detailed explanation zfactor. I am greatly appreciate it! So I am pretty sure that my 5793 has at least 1.00.07sh since I can control the fan mode. do you think 1.00.08 can resolve my vibration problem?

 

doubtful since it is the same thing as far as fan control goes. wish i could say otherwise. you can always try it but you sager boot screen will be gone. we could always make you another though

 

I am actually switching to the Radioactive boot screen.

 

nice lmk how it works for you

 

I will switch to the radioactive one after I do a full system reinstall...
Nirvana, I dunno what to say. What you are experiencing is what we all experienced in the previous firmware,the one that I have,and posted a video of, is close to perfect.
But I never use Fn+3 any more except when in libraries,because on auto mode the ramping is gone.
Come to think of it. Do you have ramping up and down , Nirvana? cause the ONLY firmware that has NO ramping is the latest one.

 

I DO have ramping myself by the way... guess I need to get the latest firmware

 

See? best way to check if you have the latest one is if you don`t have ramping. If you have it, it`s definitely NOT the latest,and probably the resonating one.

 

you mean fan speed ramping up and down?? just curious.

 

Yes. And fan speed ramping that also translates into temp ramping in the riva tuner chart.
Check mine.
-First one: NO RAMPING.
-Second one: RAMPING with older firmware version.

 

Same here... these Chicony keyboards have all this problem... even on the one that I have on my desktop.

 

what firmware / bios did you have at both of those times?

 

Justin told me that my 5793 "should" have latest firmware;however, mine does ramping up and down.
where can I download 1.00.08 anyway?

 

Nirvana, I gave you a link on page #1 http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3319739&postcount=5 for the latest firmware. The 8 thing is a BIOS if I`m not mistaken.
Z, the one without ramping is the .h version, and the other with ramping is the .f version.

 

@eleron911, KBC/EC Firmware - 1.00.07Sh?

 

Yep. Will eliminate ramping, I guarantee.

 

once that is flashed you can then flash the .08 again. at least thats what i did and my system seems fine i dont notice and ramping in fan speeds...

would it be audible? is so then im fine..

 

Audible? the ramping you mean? Yea.The fan starts,then stop,then starts,then stops,corresponding to the peak of the graph and the bottom.

 

I'm on .f auto mode, but I'm getting no ramping for GPU:

I do remember fan(s) turning on/off constantly with .h auto mode.

 

54C ? wow,that is high.Mine stays on 33C . Big difference...
I don`t know what to tell you.I use .h and it works without any issue whatsoever.

 

I don't know if it's abnormal for 8800M idle temp, but mine fluctuates (but not within a short period of time) between 50 - 60 Celsius, depending on the room temperature.

 

I see. Well, ambient temp for me is about 20-21C. XP.
In Vista,with the initial firmware I dropped from 48C to 39C.