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    what does the hard drive caddy look like?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ApolloSpeed, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. ApolloSpeed

    ApolloSpeed Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've been searching but can't find out what the hard drive caddy for the 8130 looks like?

    Not just the caddy itself.....but the look of the laptop with it installed.
     
    ApolloSpeed, Jul 21, 2011
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    It looks exactly the same
     
    nllptr, Jul 21, 2011
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  3. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    If you get one of the Clevo caddies (and a few of the third party ones) which let you put on the bezel from the DVD drive, it's indistinguishable from the DVD drive it replaces- you just can't put a DVD in it anymore :p
     
    Anthony@MALIBAL, Jul 21, 2011
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  4. ApolloSpeed

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    cool. thats what i needed to know
     
    ApolloSpeed, Jul 21, 2011
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  5. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    quick question: how much extra space is there is the hard drive caddy, i may be looking at getting one and i was wondering if there was room enough for me to add a few circuits for extra LEDs, i was planning on putting in.
     
    aduy, Jul 21, 2011
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    Sorry, i just realised those photos are a bit low res, i have attached some now, have a look.
     

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    jack-lbo, Jul 21, 2011
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    that is pretty slick
     
    hiryuswift, Jul 21, 2011
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    It's looks the same, 'cause you're reusing OD faceplate.
     
    4st3risk, Jul 21, 2011
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    So if I understand this correct, effectively the Sager notebooks have "3" hardrive slots? Just like a tower where the motherboard number of hardrives/disc ROMs is only limited by the # of SATA connections?

    Also, a side question - I'm interested in getting a SSD into the notebook at a later time and I notice that there's only one size? (HD storage is usually divided into desktop and notebook). So is SSD one size fit all?
     
    arcanis_2000, Jul 21, 2011
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    The Sager NP7280/7282 (the one that uses desktop CPUs) has 3 hard drive bays + 1 optical so you could conceivably have 4 disk drives. Other 17-inch models have 2 hard drive bays + 1 optical. The 15-inch models have 1 HDD + 1 optical.

    You mean the physical side of the drive? Most use a notebook-style 2.5-inch form factor. There are a SSDs that are in 3.5-inch cases for use in desktops, but they're less common.
     
    saturnotaku, Jul 21, 2011
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  12. Kuril

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    Kinda. The 8150 and 8130 have the hard drive and the optical drive slot, plus there's one external e-SATA port.
     
    Kuril, Jul 21, 2011
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    The one I'm interested is the NP8170, so in this notebook, I see the option to have in place of where the optical drive is, a HD + caddy case (which I assume is the pictures posted earlier in this thread).
    So in effect, 2 HD bays + 1 optical/HD with caddy = up to 3 harddrives?
    Or did I miss something in all this?
     
    arcanis_2000, Jul 21, 2011
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    For the 8170, that's correct.
     
    saturnotaku, Jul 21, 2011
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    Perhaps a silly question, but how much of a weight difference do you guys think there is between a caddy and a dvd/blu-ray drive? Just curious if anyone knew (no need to look it up or anything like that).
     
    Matthewrs_Rahl, Jul 21, 2011
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    Any difference would be too minute to notice.
     
    saturnotaku, Jul 21, 2011
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  17. Electric Shock

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    You already know. Go hold your mechanical drive in one hand and your DVD drive in another hand. (it just sildes out so easily). The caddy without a drive in it weighs basically nothing. Like a stick of ram. It's just super thin aluminum. Put a harddrive in it however, and it weighs more than the optical drive.
     
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    SaturnOtaku - Yeah, I didn't think it would be much at all. :p
    Electric Shock - You're assuming I have these parts laying around, lol. I was just comparing the caddy (no disk drive) to an optical drive (with a bluray/dvd player).
     
    Matthewrs_Rahl, Jul 21, 2011
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  19. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Where can we get the original P170HM HDD caddy part?
     
    Prema, Jul 21, 2011
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  20. MALIBAL

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    You can get an HDD caddy for the P170HM from basically any reseller on this forum, including us. :)
     
    MALIBAL, Jul 21, 2011
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  21. rouse

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    your freindly clevo/sager reseller will usually be glad to sell you the caddy. i believe that the unit is also identical to that from newmodeus.com.
     
    rouse, Jul 21, 2011
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  22. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    So how do I get it from you then? Did get no reply via PM and your support just ended the live chat without even telling me the price...
     
    Prema, Jul 25, 2011
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  23. MALIBAL

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    The HDD caddy is $45 plus shipping.
     
    MALIBAL, Jul 25, 2011
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    THX, :)

    Does it have It's own faceplate?
     
    Prema, Jul 25, 2011
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    Yes it does. :)
     
    MALIBAL, Jul 25, 2011
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    Is the file transfer speed from the stock HD to the caddy HD faster than an external HD via USB2.0? via USB3.0?
     
    alektoro, Jul 26, 2011
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    I believe the 17" Sagers have "3" and the 15" have "2." If you opt for the second hard drive on the 15" ones they place the hard drive into the optical drive bay as you see. but the 17" has 2 hard drive bays and an optional bay for either the dvd/blu ray drive or another hard drive.
     
    Jyang486, Jul 26, 2011
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  28. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    In theory, no. At least not for mechanical drives. USB 2.0 should allow speeds of 480Mbits (~60MB/s). USB 3.0 allows up to 5Gbits (~625MB/s). The SATA II interface in the optical bay is rated for 3Gbits ( ~375MB/s).

    In practice though, the internal SATA II will nearly always have a higher overall throughput than USB 2.0, and USB 3.0 and SATA II will be roughly equal for mechanical drives (due to the drive speed being slower than the transfer speed- most mechanical drives average <100MB/s)

    Long story short: USB 2.0 < SATA II < USB 3.0 < SATA III where for mechanical hard drives, anything over USB 2.0 will be maxing out the drive. For SSD's, the fastest ones out there can potentially saturate a SATA III connection at 6Gbits
     
    Anthony@MALIBAL, Jul 26, 2011
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