[Review] Sager NP9873 / Clevo P870DM3 Quick Review by HTWingNut

@lctalley0109 this would be the only way... Clevo doesn't have as detailed fan control as Alienware did at least when I was using Hwinfo64 on my M17x R4...

 

I am going to do one more repaste with Gelid Solutions GC extreme on the GPU once I get some thermal pads in. Maybe I will get it running at temperatures low enough for auto fan mode. I watched how much HTWingNut put on his GPU. Anyone have experience with using GC extreme on there GPU? Should I use the line method with the same amount as the video?

Thanks,

Lance

 

With a proper pastejob, the machine is not an iota louder than your average fan-cooled desktop PC. You're just sitting a bit closer to the noise for obvious reasons. Of course, if you FN+1, you have a jet plane go off right under your face, but why would you even do that unless you want to flush your rig quickly after a prolonged session.

 

Thanks. How did you apply the GC Extreme on your GPU? Line, Dot, Spread and about how much did you apply.

 

The rectangular core favours a line parallel with the longer side.

 

Thank you Meaker.

 

The X Cross method is the best in my experience as once the heatsink is fitted, it provides the maximum coverage with the least air bubbles

 

Hmm at least we agree with something.. I'd suggest the above or a normal cross.. I personally do a normal cross...

With that in mind, time to buy some new paste and repaste my laptop before I go to the tropics in December..

 

See how doing the X Cross Method using IC Diamond vs Liquid Ultra decreased my temps by 10C. Not saying CLU is bad but IC Diamond made better contact on my laptop with the heatsink that it has as CLU was too thin for it to make proper contact. Some had better luck with CLU but not me. I tried the line and pea dot method but the X Cross method made a night and day difference:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-156#post-10240358

 

I've used IC Diamond and Gelid and IC lasts longer.. Thinking of trying Kryonaut this time but not sure if that's a good idea..

 

Please don't! Been there, done that, firstly my temps were about 5C higher with Kyronaut the first few days, then after another 3 days, I couldn't even maintain a 4.5 GHz on all cores that I've always had before so I removed it and put IC Diamond back

 

Not going to be the same case for everyone.
My application of Kryonaut has been running great since last 3 months now.
I even repasted my friends P870DM-G 6 months back and it's running great as well.
Also the way the processor was overclocked and settings sometimes matter a bit.

 

Ok IC Diamond it will be

Ordered 1 tube of it..

 

What factory thermal pads does sager use for the VRM and memory controllers and would something like Artic thermal pad with a 6 w/mk rating be within the specifications they use for both the VRM and memory controller?

 

So long as the pads are fitted correctly (and that thermal rating is true) then that should do the job.

 

I have 0.5, 1 and 1.5mm thermal pads but it appears there are 2 different size pads used in which are bigger than what I have. I called sager but they do not sell the pads and were unsure on the size. I will order some but does anyone know the size?

 

Keep the thicker ones stock.

 

go ahead and measure ^^

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They look to be 2mm and 3 mm unless they are an unusual size. My major problem is with the stock pads it is still not making good contact. Even with a thick layer of thermal paste it is not making very good contact. I am unsure if cutting down the thermal pads would help. Any ideas?

 

I took the thermal pads off one by one and used thermal compound to see how it spread. The thermal pads on the memory were the ones for me that were causing the gap. This was my fault as those were the only ones that tore originally that I had to replace and the ones I chose were a little to big (1mm). After using .5 mm thermal pads on the memory which do work as I checked contact between them everything seemed to work good; although, I ran out of good thermal compound and had to use some arctic silver 5 so will have to repaste again after I order some new thermal paste. GC Extreme seems to have dropped my CPU temps though by about 5 to 7 C but this could have been the original paste job with IC diamond and not the thermal compound itself. I am going to look and see if you can buy the stock thermal pads from somewhere. It would be nice to have some backups. It seems they were 2mm, 3mm and 4mm but they have a lot of flex (almost like a sponge) in them unlike other thermal pads I have seen.

 

What do you guys think about single 780W AC Adapter for P870DM3? More or less the same size as current 330W just 780W. Perfect for Overclockers.

 

That would be great. Would definitely upgrade to another video card then. Since I travel did not want to carry 2 power adapters.

 

Where can we buy good thermal pads anyway? I've always wondered where to get a good one.

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Performance PCs. Frozen CPU. eBay. Amazon.

 

If anyone has upgraded thermal pads for the GPU would be nice to know the size and brand fitted.

 

Try getting Phobya XT pads... They are 7W/mK pads and I would get 0.5mm and 1mm ones and stack accordingly..

 

What about the 11w/mk phobia or alphacool are they to stiff and it is fine to stack them? I thought stacking them might be a issue.

 

14w/mk Fujipoly - alphacool Is probably the best pads on the market nowadays. They even beats the big brother 17w/mk pads!!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-recommendations-update-thermal-pads.796820/

 

Yet they are not needed in the slightest and you should worry more about the consistency that allows a small amount of give to allow for the perfect application so everything sits flat.

 

I did find the thermal pads at Eurocom. I believe they are stock unless they cut there own pads, but they sell them as an accessory. This was the only place I could find them for sell unless you want to size and cut your own.

 

Cutting your own usually gives the best results, the thicker pads are fine to leave. Much like thermal paste.

 

With the single 1080 GPU and 6700k with hours of BF 1 play in overclock mode I was able to run +100mhz GPU with max GPU temps 70C and max CPU temps 64C. Even though the fans are a little loud since they are right near you. Definitely seems to have some OC room. Very nice!!

 

You're able to play hours on BF1 without the game crashing on you?

 

Have not had it crash on me yet.

 

It will depend on the config and luck of the draw with battlefield games as to if it likes to crash.

 

lol, seriously?! this is something noteworthy, that battlefield doesnt crash for hours on a stock config? wth?

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Have not had issues yet. Have played 2 to 3 hour sessions. Probably only 14 hours online so far though and been through the single player mode. Do you have constant crashes?

 

ive never played battlefield and i dont plan to do so ^^ i just thought it funny that a game NOT crashing on a stock hardware configuration is something that is worth noting. that doesnt paint a very nice picture of the underlying programming of that game

 

I have played BF since the beginning. Initial release usually has a few issues but they generally get things smoothed out fairly quickly.

 

Running smooth on highest settings with DX12 at average 98 fps on a 1440p/144hz 27 inch external monitor.

 

What's the normal temp for the gpu on idle ? Mine is running at 66 is that normal ?

 

66 is very high unless you live in a very warm climate. Idle should be low 40s and around 50 if using light GPU acceleration like web browsing.

 

I idle at 45C with a single GTX 1080. I did repaste with GC Extreme; although, I believe my temperatures are within the range of factory IC Diamond temperatures. I live in Houston and my office is normally around 72F.

 

I live in California room temp around 75-80. I use gelid Gc extreme thermal paste. On the first boot I run time spy and achieved 10,142 score. After that the gpu went up to 66 degrees . Why is it that it's not able to cool down ? Did I put too much thermal paste ? I use the x technique on the gpus.

 

I used the line method and used a little more than I did on the CPU. I also applied it to make sure it got full coverage, then cleaned it up and pasted the same amount. Did you test it out before hand maybe you are not getting full coverage with the thermal paste?

 

Ok I got the temps down to 45-50, I use attic silver 5. I cleaned everything and repaste using the line method. full coverage?

 

Full coverage meaning you have paste evenly and the corners have thermal paste on them as well. Correct me if a wrong but I believe it is more important to have full coverage on the GPU than on the CPU.

 

Okay I got you. However after applying thermal paste and boot it up. The temps were between 40-45 . After I run time spy the temps went from 66-69 . 1hour later to see if it's cools down. My temps were 66 average. So I'm going to apply different methods of pasting because i think I put too much again..
However with as5 thermal paste my score on the time spy was 9534.
And the gelid extreme went up a little by 10134.

 

Did the GPU throttle, what were your max temperatures while running the test?