Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

There's no default setting regarding iGPU or GT in the bios, software, nor the Intel software itself afaik.

 

Then you may need to load xtu to see this then.

I know this is off topic, but.... Would you guys say DBS characters are stronger than DC/Marvel and Naruto characters? Personally I don't think any of them are stronger than first form freeza if you ask me.

Ok, on topic.

 

Could it be due to high ambient temperatures or dust collection?

There are about 30C in the room...

Also, could it happen because of me being unable to undervolt?... Should I underclock and just leave it be?

I don't know with what to repaste or how really.... And there are literally zero reputable computer shops that would do this in Bucharest. Erm... trustable.

Have't watched DBS so far, it's quite long...

I was caught with Gin Tama from the longer anime, and it was frankly, quite good.

 

30 degrees is quite high indoor temperatures But almost 100C in Fire Strike is too much anyway. You should monitor the temp forward. Don't think it is a dust problem. Your machine is almost new. But it will of course depends on how dusty it is where you use your computer. Re-paste. Not so difficult You must do it anyway in the end

Edit http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...dm2-3-g-p75xdm2-g-sager-np9152-np9172.795911/

Have you see this as well? http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...oenix-2-is-here.794530/page-650#post-10382414

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...lienware-laptops.593626/page-46#post-10208973

 

Ran a second test, room slightly lower temperature due to storm outside, fans on max manual, and a notepal U3 cooler underneath turned on.

Could it be broken or something, or it's just normal to have high temperatures and I should probably repaste? The main things I'm afraid of are static charge and I'm afraid of doing an even worse job than it was before... never pasted a laptop or computer in my life before. And I did run a Pentium 4 computer with no thermal paste at all, and it's GPU without thermal paste between the cooler and the GPU. IT worked for 10 years like that.

It is pretty hot and dusty inside the room I'm using it, though I'm not sure if this is normal... I have tested with fans on OC last time, now tested with fans on MAX manual.

I'm not necessarily scared, because my old laptop was also touching 100C, but I am worried about the performance glitches I keep seeing in windows and I've no idea how to fix them, or why they happen.

For example, scrolling certain software of text editing causes major slowdowns on long texts, and the fans do spin up, but there is no CPU usage in taskmgr, and the temps does not rise, but the system is kinda glithcy. No thermal throttle, of course, but I can't fiind why or how to fix it...

Or something similar happens in photoshop when cutting a HUGE piece of an image (like cutting a 4K piece out of a 10K piece) and moving it around, it renders it kinda like how Cinebench renders on CPU test, and the fans spin up, and system becomes kinda slow...

 

If I were a betting man I'd wager you've got yet another example of a crappy Clevo fit on the heatsink.

 

Or the heatsink was put on 1 full screw at a time. Which can cause the same symptoms as well. Something to check?

 

Did some tweaking with OC'ing and was able to get stable up to 4.6GHz on my HIDevolution CLU delidded 6700K! My Fire Strike score is up to 17,995... Although I'm still getting some issues with throttling when both CPU/GPU are under load



Running just wPrime 1024m I don't get any CPU throttling under load (the blue line under the orange one in the graph). This particular run I was able to run all 4 cores @ 47x and got 138.14s, but seems it was just barely stable as a subsequent run locked up.

 

I don't know how to check this



Better I stayed with BGA?...

Where is the best tutorial on how to open it up and paste it back on?...

I might just try that...

 

I played Xenoverse for two hours yesterday, still had a crash,. The game black screened but I was able to CTRL-ALT-DEL and press the windows key. Had to log off to regain control. SLI Disabled as well.

Agreed. First form freeza, blows up a planet with a single attack. DBS, years later...LOL

Xeno next week

 

Brother @Mr. Fox is you resource guide to the stars and beyond. He has a video for everything.

Indeed!

 

I\ll look for his videos!

Sorry for being a bother, but it's quite hard to grasp things at first, I literally don't know how to do all these things. Only spent time with the software part of computing so far.

 

Nope, not a bother at all! I just don't have a current link for it. . So I added his name to see if he would post it for you.

Edit:
https://biosmods.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/sky-x9/4/

 

I don't have a teardown video for your machine or my new one. Once the bottom cover is off, everything is out in the open, so there is nothing left to the imagination or no guesswork.

However, I have multiple videos in my YouTube channel showing how to apply paste. If that is all you are looking for, here is my list of videos.

Feel free to browse: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrFoxRox2/videos?view_as=public

Here's at starting point where I show the CPU repaste with CLU on the Eurocom Sky X9.

 

I think he has the P775DM3/DM2.

 

You are totally right.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Eurocom-Sky-X7E2-Clevo-P775DM3-Notebook-Review.178427.0.html



Looks pretty straight forward...Will keep looking.

 

Yes, that is what I meant by I do not have a video for his machine.

 

Yes, basically made the same as the P750ZM. Take off the bottom cover and there's really no guesswork involved. All you need is a Philips screwdriver and stuff to repaste.

 

Whoops. My bad.

 

The screws are even numbered for the correct order

 

Yep!

Just don't go screwing them fully in 1 at a time! Unless you are holding the whole heat sink in place.

 

Yes on a big combined heatsink that does become more important. Get them each to the point just before they are pushing the heatsink down and then do them in the numbered order a turn or two at a time for the best results.

 

Thanks!

I'll look into it.

What I was the most scared about is how to literally lift and place the heatsink back on and how to literally clean it. I know that there should be alchool involved, but I've no idea, never did this before. Also, if I should use IC again, and how, what shape to put the paste, and more details on scrweing it back on. I should just screw the screws in the order indicated and screw them in that order, each a little at a time?

 

Alcohol produces the cleanest, shinest look but is not actually required A nice thick sheet of kitchen roll will do the trick.

 

Two stock runs with Prema Mod... no CPU or GPU OC.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10770275/fs/10770521

 

Minor OC of CPU and GPU... http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10770699

 

Is that with a modded VBIOS too or just BIOS/EC?

 

Just BIOS. We have not started vBIOS testing yet.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10770836

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10770903

 

Mmm.. that physics score is looking healthy. I'm going to assume that was a W7 run..

 

Benchmark Comparison: http://valid.x86.fr/bench/91vyc2

 

http://valid.x86.fr/s9d6bq

 

You're benching on AC, right?

Both your voltage and speed are very good, and it leads me to ask with what are you cooling it?

 

Yes. Any kind of meaningful benching is done on AC. My system would be crashing and unstable using nothing but fans at those clock speeds.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11738209 ( Windows 10 )

 

How is the processor max temp on the new DM3 vs. older DM1? Of course maxed fans. Does it help with these new 12v fans vs the weaker and less noisy 5v cpu fan?
I wish it were possible to find other / even better fans who could move more air and had even higher static pressure. Noisy fans is no drawback for me or you

 

CPU runs a little bit hotter than my DM1 did, probably because of the GPU vapor chamber being attached to it and pushing extra heat onto it. I cannot bench the CPU without AC cooling like I was able to on the DM1. I haven't taken things apart yet to inspect and repaste, so I may be able to improve the temps. My 1080 GPUs run much cooler than I ever expected them to based on the reports of many, but I am not sure all Clevo resellers take as much time as HIDevolution does to get that part right.

Edit: It is taking me a while for me to figure out what this new 6700K prefers for voltage. I have been holding off spending much time on that because with the BIOS mods the ideal settings may change. I am having difficulty getting high enough voltage to stick for 4.9 and 5.0GHz. It drops too low under load and the input voltage does not seem to work the same as the DM1 did. I think I need to increase the input voltage more than what I am able to.

I do not mind the loud fans at all. I actually like them a lot. My wife is not a "fan of the fans" however. She says they are too loud. I don't want quieter fans if the trade-off is higher temps. I would much prefer louder fans if it runs cooler with them maxed out than it would with quiter fans.

 

Ok, finally got it to start working.
Over clocked vs stock bios over clocked vs stock.
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10772528/fs/10294846/fs/10772069

 

I don't like shared cooling between cpu/gpu. Although the impact is/can be small.
I know Pascal performs better the colder chip can be. But have you headrom for a bit higher gpu temp vs better cpu temp if you put in a worse quality pads between gpu / cpu heatsink? Or will this ruin the graphics temp and give you lower graphics score? And same time not give much gain for the cpu?

 

I'm not sure if it's because of the shared heatsink, finish/contact (likely) or silicon but my CPU doesn't appear to run as cool as my DM1.
I'm going to wait for Prema's BIOS so I can at least find out where my chip stands, then maybe pursue another CPU heatsink. Sigh*

 

Awesome. Very nice, Brother John.

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I just finished setting up Windows 7 in UEFI/GPT mode (AHCI) on one M.2 with Windows 10 on the other M.2. If anyone needs to know how to do this let me know. The nice thing about the @Prema BIOS (and @Phoenix always talks about this) is you can disable all SATA ports except for the drive you are installing the OS to. Then you can have discrete Windows Boot Manager on each drive.

WEI score... ...now it's time for bed.

 

Here is an example. This is with @Prema BIOS, CCC Beta version and no GPU OC. CPU @ 4.7GHz. Temps are in OSD. HWiNFO64 sensors show the peak on CPU was 89°C, GPU0 peaked at 79°C and GPU1 peaked at 74°C using the CCC Overclock fan option (not max FN+1). This is sitting on my modded U3, no AC cooling.

 

@Mr. Fox Those seem like good temps. Have you delidded yet?
Either way it confirms I've got a stinker HS again

 

HIDevolution delidded it before I got it. I may be able to improve on the temps though, so I am going to investigate that once the @Prema firmware mods are done.

 

Damn you @Mr. Fox and @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER and your 27k scores. hahahaha

 

For those that did not already know, if you set the @Prema BIOS like the screen shots below, you can boot DOS or UEFI without changing any settings. This is how I run W7 in UEFI mode. I can also dual-boot my Macrium Reflect Recovery USB stick in either UEFI or DOS mode, and can flash Prema BIOS in DOS without touching anything.

You MUST set the OS Selection Menu first, then the CSM selections. Otherwise, changing the OS Selection options will alter the CSM options and the machine will not boot Windows 7 due to the CSM settings getting flipped around by altering the OS selection.

Spoiler: Set these options FIRST

Spoiler: Set these options SECOND

 

ahhh so that's how you got passed the hanging Windows 7 splash screen upon loading, because you set the video to legacy. good tip

 

Does Win10 have that much of a detrimental overhead compared to Win7? I have to see if I have any spare Win7 keys around my house or office to test this out.

 

Here you go... https://www.kinguin.net/category/13816/windows-7-professional-oem-key-sp1/

You need W7 anyway, LOL. For under $30 that's quite the bargain.

W10 does some things better than W7 and vice versa. W10 sucks in some measurements related to CPU performance, and to a lesser degree does better at some things in GPU performance. In other words, the improvement in GPU performance is smaller with W10 than the decrease in CPU performance and therein are benefits of using W7. It's give and take with both. The thing I despise about W10 is not the CPU performance hindering as much as the sucky cartoon pastel vomit UI with no Aero and fat ugly window borders, tile feces, etc... and the lack of control of updates and UI customization is absolutely unforgivable. Micro$haft has stripped out so many configuration options for the UI that it makes me want smack Satya Nadella in the face with a ball peen hammer... several times.

 

LMAFO, I couldn't help but laugh.