Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

It's an involved process, but it can be studied one step at a time.

 

Surprisingly my 7700K runs cooler than my 6700K but then again I changed the thermal pads on the CPU heatsink and removed the four clips so maybe that made the difference.

 

Does it work using high performance? Usually when I use high performance on this system it forces turbo to be on 24/7 (I've even reduced my processor states and the PC just laughed at me and kept 4.4GHz anyway).

Also, what's your CPU load in those games? Is it sufficiently high enough to the point that turbo makes a difference? Have you attempted throwing extra load on the system while playing those games, like trying to use a CPU-based recording program? OBS with x264 recording should work perfectly to toss the excess stress on it.

 

My Eurocom X9E2 With the @Prema Bios, has a GTX 1070, can I switch that out for a 1080 without any issues? Or would I need to reflash the Bios? Thanks

 

@Mr. Fox @Prema @TBoneSan @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @Mobius 1 @D2 Ultima @Q937

So i did a quick bracket check today morning, and mine does not seem to be un even like yours -
http://imgur.com/a/Hw5ih

I didnt quite have a flat heat sink or anything, so just used a 2.5" HDD
But on every angle, none of the edges were making contact with the bracket and only with the IHS.

Also another interesting thing about Conductonaut, sure it is watery and all, but there were no oxidation/etched in marks like CLU. It came off exactly like i put it on.

Even my heatsink is perfectly flat, checked it with a level gauge.

 

Not the delid can make the angle of the socket once secured change as it's slightly lower.

 

Removed the shim and did the clip mod on my CPU HS. Good stuff. Went down from 85C peak to:

Spoiler: wPrime 1.55 1024M temps 4.8GHz @1.25V

 

Added a new member to the family today (inauguration bench):

Spoiler

Yep

NOICE!

 

yeah ofc i'm using the High Performance Profile , even tried now with OBS and still disables turbo, the fps in OW don't really move that much about mostly 1fps in practice area from 4Ghz to 4.5Ghz, but in GW2 in Lion's Arch it's almost 6fps which is quite a lot for that unoptimized DX9 "thing".

• I even tried disabling C-States (which made things worse, only 1 core then used 4Ghz others switched only 1-2 secs to 4Ghz and stayed most of the time at 800Mhz)
• Tried fiddeling around with the CPU Flex Ratio (which is used mostly for in-between ratios but still)
• Tried Speedshift (same issue with Turbo off + nasty microstuttering)

after i quit the game, about 2-3 secs on desktop, turbo activates itself again.

Even uploaded the vid i recorded, quick and dirty but should showcase the issue

I can't say i had the same issue before, cause i was dependent from TS with stock bios from the get-go.

 

Ghosts.

Sent from my OnePlus 1 using a coconut

 

I made this post over at the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut thread; hope someone here can help me:

 

Thanks @Prema I kind of figured it wouldn't be a simple change. Is that 2 960s running that fast?

 

That will be a single one

 

My U3 cooler mod
No point in buying another type notebook cooler. All is pure trash.

 

Looks like the 960 is a bit faster than the 950

 

You can get it from eBay, cant you ?

 

I have my 140mm magnetic levitation fans now, just need to do some dremel work

 

It's ridiculously expensive. At any rate, I ended up buying Gelid GC Extreme; see how it goes.

 

Yeah that's about the normal price. Maybe a few dollars cheaper sometimes on eBay.
But not much different than retail pricing .

 

With shipping it easily hits US$40. I'm not about to cough up so much money for some goop that's going in my laptop. I purchased Gelid GC Extreme at about US$4, along with some 20 mm × 20 mm × 0.5 mm copper shims. See how that goes.

I've been burned by CLU; never again.

 

Traditional pasts with shims is a recipe for disaster, you are technically are cutting transfer even more.
Kryonaut is definitely pretty expensive, but it depends on how much you buy. This is a pretty decent price i think.

CLU however is not magical, and that what most advanced users will tell you. It needs a good fitting heat sink. Since only a thin layer is applied, it pretty much needs even contact. If there is a gap, it wont work at all.

 

And I will add that if the heatsink is "good enough" that it works but not great, you will get it drying out. I had to replace my CLU on my CPU after about 8 months (p370sm3). I did it after a year, but it was almost completely dried up when I did it, and I managed to shave off another 6c on the reapplication. That's the original application temps I had too, after the repaste. So a shim with CLU would be useful for you, but traditional paste you best just use normally.

 

Man, for all its benefits, CLU certainly is a pain in the neck. The last thing I want to do is to have to keep reapplying it.

I'll give it one last chance with the copper shims and lapped heatsink; if that doesn't work, then GC Extreme it is.

 

it's not a matter of CLU being a pain in the neck... this is 100,000% Clevo and their garbage heatsinks. If you had a proper fitting heatsink, you would not have this problem or anything close to it. Using LM in machines like the AW17 R1 or M17x R4 or M18x R2 or that new ASUS G701 or Gigabyte models is pretty much safe. It's only in Clevo where you can never be sure.

 

Exploring some options to Windows 10 feces. Not liking the limited software availability too much, but still exploring. Need to see how much in my Steam library works. Installed fine with @Prema BIOS. Check out the memory read speed. Those are GB/s, not MB/s, LOL.


And, for those that care... G-STINK is working. Won on my first play-through in the Nexius bot match.

 

I have now terrorized you all with 10,000 very interesting and useful posts. Hope you read them all (although my <very> good English essentially sucks!!)



BTW. WHY proper INFO is importent

 

Linux mint, Ubuntu and their brothers are good until you need to use an app they don't support.

That's the point where they become poison.

For example, photoshop, or anything from the adobe suite. Or making a banal bootable USB from within Ubuntu can be hell.

But if you're not bound by the usage of certain software, linux distros are really nice. Win10 is quite awful in many aspects, but it is the widest supported platform.

No idea about mac, never was curious about it.

 

That was interesting.

W10 still is a bit meh in some ways. Wish they would fix it faster. Also I do wish that tweaking it would take less time - It can take me 1-2 hours to fix it...

 

You should have a tweaked image if you do it that often and just slap it on.

 

Yeah, that was kind of interesting.

It takes me more than a couple of hours to do all of the tweaks to get Windoze OS X to the point that it is tolerable. But, as Brother @Meaker@Sager suggested, making an image of the fully tweaked fresh install can turn the prospect of 'reinstalling' into a 10-15 minute minor inconvenience in the event of malware infection or OS file corruption. Macrium Reflect makes easy work of that for me.

I have the Linux Mint installed on a spare 256GB Kingston M.2 SSD so I can pop it in/out whenever I feel like it. The 960 Pro with Windoze OS X installed on it is laying on my desk collecting dust for the time being.

 

The difference between a gamer and a pure bencher

 

Eh, I prefer pure reinstall when it is called for. Maybe it is a bit of paranoia, but I don't believe in making an OS image (?)

 

Believe it bro. If making an image wasn't a good solution to save time, then I, @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER, @Meaker@Sager and others that do lots of benching wouldn't be doing it. The stuff we do can sometimes tear up an OS (corrupt files) pretty quickly and my performance is the same as a clean OS install after restoring a good image.

 

Damn.. you gotta get over that superstition. It literally turnes a 1-2 day stress-fest affair into a 10 minute bathroom break.

 

Is there any list where I can find overlocks with only internal air cooling, no chiller or external water loops?

 

External water loops? Other than one pathetic morphodite turdbook with a colostomy bag out back where have you seen examples of this in notebooks?

 

Google "laptop water cooling mod". Plenty of attempts were made.

Anyway, is 4.8G 6700K the best we've seen so far without chillers or south pole climate, or are there any better ones?

 

Do you mean as a daily driver or for benching? Benching we've seen higher numbers but everyone seems to have their own daily driver clocks based on TIM, cooling and Heatsink quality. My 6700k daily driver clocks were 4.6 GHz.

 

Okay, I'll take your advice and make a Win image next time I do a reinstall. My only fear is that I want to erase (format) the SSD before I do a reinstall, I don't want to install over and I had no idea if this is possible with an image.

The truth is that after they went ahead and did the effort of including that freaking water loop, they could at least had included a desktop CPU as well. There was enough place for it.

 

Both. I understand that the limit for "safe daily driver" is much harder to define though.

What's the highest benching-without-external-cooler clock reported so far? Was that on one core or all cores? AVX?

 

Someone modded the P570WM with an external water loop but it did kill the portability.

 

Yes, I am aware of the home brew attempts, but I thought you meant something normal/mass production rather than an end user mod. I was hoping maybe I had missed seeing or reading about something new and special.

I haven't seen many benchmarks on the home brewed mods, but some of them are the types of machines that I wonder why the owner even bothered (other than doing the mod itself being entertaining perhaps).

Speaking of cooling...

 

@Mr. Fox
Conductonaut -

Spoiler

 

Sweet! Yeah, that's WAY LOTS BETTER than Kryosnaut. We already knew this, but those are outstanding examples of why gallium thermal compounds are so awesome.

 

NICE. Will yooo go back to Kryo? +rep

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BTW If anyone here is interested... De-Lidding and Overclocking Core i7-7700K with Water and LN2 - Tom's hardware.com

 

Yeah ill do some more testing once im back this weekend. With CLC / Kryonaut / MasterGel on the CPU and the GPU's.

If anyone is wondering though, that is at Max Fan Speeds.

 

Where can I get those fans, and how complicated is it to mod the fans?