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@Prema @Mr. Fox @Ethrem @Papusan @johnksss @bloodhawk @Terrablade @GTVEVO

Right, so after bloodhawk's recommendation to change CLU for IC Diamond since CLU is not making great contact with the heatsink on the P870DM due to how the heatsink is shaped or fitted

Here is what I did last night.

I removed the old heatsink and put it aside, I then cleaned my CPU using the liquid cleaning kit provided by Coollaboratory. It was super easy to remove with this cleaning kit vs. conventional alcohol.

Next, I used my brand new extra heatsink that I ordered with my laptop as I felt the screws on the old heatsink were kind loose / flimsy.....

The results are simply outstanding.......

After cleaning the IHS...



I used the X Cross Pattern for applying IC Diamond by the way because according to this article, the X Cross Pattern gives the best coverage and the least air bubbles:



This is on a Silicon Lottery factory delidded 6700K CPU @ 4.5 GHz with an adaptive voltage / -65mV offset:

Before with Liquid Ultra:



After with IC Diamond / new heatsink:

 

Maybe you should try it will more clu on both the ihs and heatsink. I understand the result if you didn't have a good connection but I tested both also and results were improved with CLU. Either way you have an improvement and that is what matters.

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no way bro. I hate doing / redoing this repaste stuff. I'm more than happy with the current results

 

I'm happy for your improved temperatures, but the important is how high the package power was during the stress test. If the package power is low during the tests will also the temperature be similar low. Can you test with Wprime 1024M + Cinebench R11.5 and R15? I think the package power will be higher if you bench those benchmarks Thanks.

 

The "average" column for most sensors in HWiNFO64 is such a huge distraction and meaningless information. I never have understood what value it adds, so I always uncheck the box for that column. Average temps are irrelevant. It is the highs that hurt if they're too high. If they're not too high those less than the max don't matter... they just are. The only values I monitor are current and max. The minimum is only important as a point of reference.

 

@Mr. Fox @Prema

Ok I have joined the 4.6 GHz stable bandwagon. Look at the results below / temps



Next Destination: Dubai Ice Rink located in Dubai Mall on a mission to overclock to 5.0 GHz and beat Mr. Papusan

 

I hope you do it.

It's time for me to go on my own hunt now that my M18xR1 and R2 have been adopted into new families.

 

I actually tried that, and got rather uncomfortable with the amount of CLU i had to use, Because i have seen excessive amounts of CLU spill over and that is not pretty

 

I'm going to buy a P870DM/Sky X9. I need another blutbad to keep my hexenbiest company.

 

I'm a noob, currently using the 42x4 OC in the OP on a single power brick. Just got my Clevo "Y" adapter in & hooked in the 2nd power brick. Wondering if someone could set my expectations a bit & answer a few quick questions. My specs are in my sig below.

Do you think I'll notice any real world difference going from the 4.2GHz OC to the 4.4GHz OC?
Will the 2nd brick be required for the 44x4 OC? If not, when might I expect it to be required while OCing?
What are the majority of people using to track temps?
What would be an acceptable CPU temp for a 6700K?
Will I need to remove that black piece inside to keep within an acceptable temp range if I go up to 4.4GHz?
The fans came naturally set to Automatic within the Control Center app, which is what I'm still using for the 42x4 OC. Any issues with this setting if I go up to the 44x4? Will I need to set a custom fan profile?

 

it's your money bro, but if I could turn back time. I would never buy anything from Eurocom again.

Reason being:


1) The Eurocom Sky X9 was of a slightly lower quality than the P870MM-G (Stock Clevo) that I had before in terms of the keyboard, heatsink, and the worst thermal paste job I have ever seen. When I first removed the heatsink from the CPU/GPU for the first time, there was IC Diamond all over the place coming out of the heat sink even, seemed like a 5 year old kid was trying to play Lego with my machine

2) Their customer service is the worst I have ever seen. Had I had not known someone internally there, I would have never received my Eurocom branded Prema BIOS/VBIOS. It's like, I contact support, ask them for the VBIOS, then they're like no it's not stable we detected it is very buggy. Then I'm luck huh? what the heck is all this about, I have benchmarks and have tested it before it's fine.

Another incident was I asked for the updated BIOS v1.5, then the customer service told me that I have to be nice if I want things to get done. I was never rude! LOL My contact then sent mt the latest BIOS.

I know you won't ever need their help or even warranty as you do all this by yourself. But if I were you, I would get an EVOC p70DM-G as they are now a Prema Partner, and will cover your Silicon Lottery delidded CPU under warranty even as they offer it and fully honor warranty claims related to overclocking.

 

Do you think I'll notice any real world difference going from the 4.2GHz OC to the 4.4GHz OC? No, nothing noticeable as this is a very small overclock. 4.5GHzx++ you will notice.
Will the 2nd brick be required for the 44x4 OC? If not, when might I expect it to be required while OCing? If you have an SLI system, then definitely yet. If you have a single 980 GTX like me, you might be able to get away with 1 power adapter. you have to test and see if your CPU is throttling under load or when the GPU is active together along with it.
What are the majority of people using to track temps? HWiNFO64, run, then choose SENSORS ONLY or simply click on the sensors button on the top left, then expand that window vertically to see your CPU clocks/temps at the same time or even customize what you want and do not want to see.
What would be an acceptable CPU temp for a 6700K? 80-85C during gaming is fine.

95C during AIDA64 stress tests is ok although I wouldn't run my system like that, but it's fine. Anything above 95C and we are entering the danger zone.
Will I need to remove that black piece inside to keep within an acceptable temp range if I go up to 4.4GHz? doesn't really make a big difference, it might drop your temps by 2-3 C, but everything counts so remove it.
The fans came naturally set to Automatic within the Control Center app, which is what I'm still using for the 42x4 OC. Any issues with this setting if I go up to the 44x4? Will I need to set a custom fan profile? I always set mine to automatic as that's how I want to use my system on a daily basis. Since I have a single 980 GTX and not SLI setup, I am actually even seeing an overclock fan profile which is only visible for others if they install XTU which I highly recommend you not to.

Still, when benchmarking, just press FN + 1 on your keyboard to turn your fans on full blast then when you're done press FN + 1 again to set them back to automatic.

 

What black piece?

 

Noob question, I've already asked this on the other thread, but how come no one bothers setting custom fan curves, after the hype around this feature for gtx980 laptops, I expected more use for this, any cons?

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Never worked. At least not for me. Most of the enthusiasts you will see here either use Automatic or Max.

 

I find automatic perfect for my needs Fans start spinning fast at around 75C or so. Unlike with the Alienware 18 where one ha to use HWiNFO to control the fans to get them to work right, on this laptop, they work perfectly. While benching at high overclocks, once can simply hit FN + 1 and go to full blast.

PS: On a side note, I wish I can rep you again but I can't for now. You have given me some of the best advice that made me bump my overclock from 4.5 GHz x 4 to a super stable 4.6 GHx 4. This IC Diamond is like magic man! Cannot thank you enough. Never could have thought as everyone on these forums had it engraved in my head that LCU is the hands down thermal paste and maybe it is, but not with the way it makes contact with the IHS on this laptop.

 

he means the black film that covers the vents

 

Haha, glad to be of help bruh.

Im waiting on TED's reply to see if he can get me a new CPU heatsink or if i can order a new one. In the mean time, later this week ill try to sand the side part down a bit to see if that helps.

If we can get CLU to have perfectly even contact that would work wonders. I mean look at @Mr. Fox video where be applies CLU, his temps are amazing for 4.8Ghz.

 

I will rep him for you bro

 

thank you Credit Manager #2

 

oh this reminds me, when I looked at my old heatsink which was with CLU, it was as you said, grey not copper. Even using the Copper cleaner of the CLU cleaning kit, it doesn't get rid of the grey color it's like it's stained. That's what made me use my new spare heatsink because I wanted to get as clean of a job as possible and I'm glad I did, the new heatsinks feels much more snuggily and tight when tightened which makes better contact with the IHS

 

I will pay you back using @hmscott as I can't rep you also what the heck. I can't rep all the people I want, neither you nor bloodhawk nor Mr. Fox

 

rep comments:Credit Management to Mr. Snowman

 

Yeah, the only way i got a small section of it off was using a razor blade. Which isnt a good idea because it will shave off some of the copper, so i left it as it is.
This is weird, because the layer seems to be from oxidation. I feel that if the gap wasn't there, we wouldn't have this issue.

 

this is why, now if I ever want to go back to CLU, I will use the old heatsink. Keep one heatsink for CLU and one for other pastes as the damage or color deformation that CLU causes is irreversible.

I am surprised that the so called stock paste IC Diamond is this good to be honest. Usually when we think stock paste, it means crappy/cheap thermal paste

 

Try Kryonaut, even better by about 2-4C (depends)

 

no bro, it's not fun at all changing thermal pastes

 

Haha, then you have no idea how annoying it is on the GPU.

But that much difference doesn't warrant a change unless you have an itch that needs to be satisfied.

 

oh tell me about it, I thought it was the same process, only to be surprised that that the GPU was vrey hard to move due to those thermal pads that are on the GPU, it was a bit messy to be honest I hope I never have to do it again.

 

@bloodhawk

Here is a picture of how well and easy the Liquid Cleaning kit makes the CPU, notice the text on the CPU is still there not smudged out like it is the case if you clean it with alcohol as it removes every bit of LCU:




and here is the old heatsink...... after preparation / cleaning phase




and here it is after the copper cleaning phase:

 

@Papusan

See how fast my RAID 0 Array creates an image of C: Partition (Windows) ?

This is a clean install of Windows 10 Build 10586.104 then manually updated to build 10586.218, no drivers or software installed.......

 

This is not a record from the BGA KILLER but still an ok score New Record next page in the OC thread

 

But this is a new record by BGA KILLER. Fits well on the first page @Phoenix . More job for you, I know Cinebench R15 1060 cb
Finally passed 1060 cb, LOL This is not a Crippled BGA **** from INTEL as the majority of OEM's love to put in their new modern slim flimsy light TurdBooks or shall we say CrapBooks? Junk have many names. You KNOW?
http://hwbot.org/submission/3190771_papusan_cinebench___r15_core_i7_6700k_1060_cb?recalculate=true

 

Speaking of BGA garbage... and trash in general... I whipped this up in a few minutes this evening. Hope you like it.

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that's a 1 point increase from your last score, great job

 

Bookmarked. This smell REP-REP-REP-REP... But I have already done that earlier. You will get rep later

yeah, every points I can grab higher in Bench is more like a huge orgasm for me. Remember eg 10 is prettier than 9.99 Aka 100 vs 99 and 1060 vs 1059 pts osv

Edit: Every nano points counts if you want go up in ranking. See the image and you will understand. You can't come closer than this in a benchmark. If you get same benchmark score. You risk be number 100 instead of the way better 99 in Hwbot Bench ranking with same score as your competitors.

 

@Mr. Fox @Papusan

Here is my run with 346.96 drivers, can you guys explain why is my CPU throttling to 4 GHz even though we see the average clock speed is 4,594 MHz?

I am using Throttle Stop and have set max turbo to 225000 and power limits 1,2,3, and 4 to 300000 and IA Current Limit / PSYS Max Current ot 8191

3DMark11



3DMark - Fire Strike

 

That's normal 3DMark includes 'notebook driver code' to reduce the CPU to non Turbo clocks in the combined test in order to lessen the total power draw. You can just force "set-multi" in TS to override it.

 

Can you please run a new Firestrike and then look into <view run details>? It's a monitor osd in 3Dmark Suite(Firestrike). Maybe the new driver don't work well with 3Dmark? Also run HWMONITOR!! I haven't seen this before. But some mean it's a glitch with Hwinfo. Run both Hwinfo and Hwmonitor software and compare results with the default monitoring in Firestrike. Please try again with Firestrike.

Edit: Could you also try your other OC profile(4.5GHz - put the profile in Throttlestop) and compare this driver vs the previous drivers in Firestrike. Of course with same graphics OC.

 

I don't think I'd place IC Diamond in the same category as 'stock paste' (for example the stuff you find on an Intel CPU cooler). While starting to be one of the more older TIMs, it is still a good option. Look how far we've come where ICD was an expensive add on - http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/stock-or-ic-diamond-7-thermal-compound.649832/

LOL. Inconceivable!!

 

Were you on Windows 7? My 3.8GHz CPU run for firestrike had about 400 more physics score points than yours.

 

W10, no time to install another OS...

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8197793

 

I just checked, I do have set Multi to 46

As you saw in the HWiNFO, the average clock speed is 4954 so I guess if it only happened during a short period that's not really throttling.




@Papusan

it's not my overclock bro, this happens even with 42x4 or 44x4 as well

 

If it would work then the current multi could not be 9, it would hold 46 constantly...
I don't own that system, but maybe Windows is not in performance mode or speedstep needs to be disabled, too?!

 

not sure, I have Intel Speed Shift enabled in BIOS by the way....

what do you think @unclewebb

Throttling never happens during AIDA64 stress test and temps are in the average 82-85C under load. Power Limits / Turbo Power Max / Core IA Current limit all set to max

 

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I did not mean your Oc was not stable in the context I talked about... Just wanted to know if the new driver gave better or lower Fire Strike score vs former Nvidia driver (You used lower OC before).

BTW Have you tested Firestrike with Hwinfo + HWMonitor monitoring if they show the same clock frequency behavior? Also remember that you can see how the test run with Firetrike's own monitoring. Aka Viev the details. There can you see clockspeed, temperature and fps. Can you please test what I suggest?
Next thing to do is test with an other driver if you can't find the culprit.

 

See the Fire Strike score difference below between the older driver and this one. Although we have to keep in mind that my CPU in the old benchmark is @ 4.4 GHz and now it's @ 4.6 GHz

I will run 3DMark again and click on details to see what I see there

3DMark - GeForce GTX 980 (364.72) CPU 4.4 GHz-GPU OC 100-150 [W10]



Fire Strike - GTX 980 (364.96) CPU 4.6 GHz-GPU OC 100-150 [W10]

 

@Mr. Fox @Papusan @Prema @unclewebb

Here is a Fire Strike test with detailed info from 3DMark as well.

PS: My CPU voltage is set to adaptive with a -30mV offset for Core / Cache. If I try static voltage the temps rise like a heating furnace so I find that adaptive works best for me on this CPU.

What do you make of this....

 

Ah. I guess Windows 10 sucks for Firestrike; my run was on 8.1 at 3.8GHz. I know 7 has bad physics scores for it.