Best case scenario, kaby lake MIGHT have a 5-7% IPC over skylake. Thats the best case scenario. Its honestly not a upgrade thats worth it for current 6700k owners.
I think @johnksss was more talking about the lack of HEDT socketed laptop. Doubt Clevo is gonna make a x99 laptop now, so skylake E based Clevo?
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The most important thing is to have fun when you crunch that BGA Crap and put it where this **** belong. Aka downward the bench ranking
Fits best in the lower part in any bencmarks!!! What is more important is to show that BGA has nothing to contribute when it comes to high performance in portable machines. Its main characteristic for BGA JokeBook's is to show emails/Facebook on the way to work or inside a cafe belong with Apple machines..., But this could just as easily be done with a phone or tablet!! Or better... A very cheap ChromeBook
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Firestrike Physics score near the magic 15550 with 4.8 GHz aka 15546
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Yo naughty tease.
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Nice, I think I'm going to have to join you having a play with that chassis
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Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)
I have decreased my overclock (blasphemy, I know) of my GTX 860M to 1.3 GHz core, 2.7 GHz memory from 1.34 GHz core and 2.75 GHz memory, as well as lowering the over-voltage from 1.15 V to 1.125V. Barely any difference at all, but stock voltages are crap anyway (1.1 V).
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It will be the silicon lottery on clocks, if your stock voltage is not so great the chip might not be the best
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how come Papusan's 32M score is much lower? Kindly refer to OPMr. Fox likes this. -
Put it another way bro... How many other have achieved physics score of almost 15,550 in Fire Strike with exactly same 4.8 GHz? There will always be variations in maximum score in benchmark tests even with the same processor / gpu. How can you expect something completely different with another processor even if it is the same spec?
Look into Hwbot bench ranks and you will see there ia a big variety in scores within same clock speed...
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I know but the delta is pretty big here
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A new Wprime 32M 4.234 sec for you bro. This time with Hwinfo who consume extra CPU cycles. I newer run osd in background if I want better bench scores. You can have different scores with same clock speed!! See also my other posts for same bench in the thread
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Psst.. @Papusan
Still need to kill a lot of services and optimize windows
Thinking of keeping a fresh install of windows just for benching.
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we have a new W32 leader
how the heck did you reach that clock man?
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Base settings in BIOS, nothing that special. Ill PM you those, if you want. Rest everything using TS.
Im still trying to fine tune it and @Papusan wont share his secrets
For cooling, i have been running the system without its bottom cover and this janky ass setup to promote proper airflow, the new CPU heatsink from a month back and Kryonaut on the IHS/Heatsink with CLU on the die.
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Kindly PM me your settings, you know the drill. Every setting please, power limit 1, 2, 3, 4, Turbo Power Max and Short Turbo Power Max, voltages, etc.
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Just don't go taking his settings, then using them about a week, make some change that has to do with nothing but luck and then start claiming the new settings as your new and improve version of it. And we will be all good with you taking a record while using them.
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not sure his settings will even work for me even though I have a Silicon Lottery CPU. You guys are magicians
Number 1 Magician = Mr. Fox
Number 2 Magician = Papusan
Number 3 Magician = johnksss
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That lottery thing is hogwash when it comes to laptop. Almost all these chips are capable of performing exactly the same. And if yours is performing worse then it's because you need a lower temp at a certain stage of the cpu while benching. Not going to go into all that because i explained it many times already. Your more concerned about benching at 4.8 than being super optimal and efficient at say 4.6, 4.7 even 4.8. You may not even need that high to beat anyone. A lot of this stuff is trial and error not taking someones settings and trying to beat them with it. Technically "they" beat them selves.
This is only information and a not a what you have to do....but i would really start there first. Because i would rather say I beat you with only a 4.6 ghz over clock. Which I have done many times....(Beat someone while running a lower over clock)ajc9988 and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
THIS. Papusan's high score was at 4.8Ghz , i cant even imagine how much hurt he will lay down on my measly score if he actually tries @ 4.9 Ghz. Im no where close to being good at bench marking as you guys. Dont even understand what half of this stuff means. Coming form a desktop BIOS, things just dont make sense sometimes .
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We saw a lot of variation in the P570WM, my first chip would hardly go over 4.2ghz where as my second would sit comfortably at 4.4ghz.
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Exactly. Although they are getting closer and closer to a desktop bios after each generation though...
I think that was mainly you my friend. most of us were bench able at 4.5 ghz or higher using a 4930K/4960X 3930K/3960X.
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I actually setup a friends 4930k @ 4.6Ghz on his X79 Sabertooth board for 24/7 use. That chip was rather nice and never crossed 65C under a corsair H110i.Johnksss and Spartan@HIDevolution like this.
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A 4930K does 4.3 on just amps and no volts added. So being locked at 4.2 is just mind boggling to me.
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@Papusan
There doesnt seem to be too much of a difference for me between 365.19 and 368.22 :
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8783870/fs/8783923/fs/8783470#
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There is no problem to get better Wprime score if you increase clock speed!!
Or maybe i don't understand this
My point was to get a good or same bench score with the exactly < same> 4.8 GHz @Phoenix !! Higher clock speeds give normally better bench results as you can see in the picture!!
http://hwbot.org/submission/3239034_papusan_wprime___32m_core_i7_6700k_4sec_182ms?recalculate=true
Yeah. But you can't get the same physics score in every bench you run
Edit. What the heck @Phoenix I have never bench 4.221 @bloodhawk 's score!!
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LOL, i wasn't talking about that. I didnt even check that page, i knew you were gonna come out yelling and screaming to rape my score.
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That's the reason why he could not bear to change the name?
Added rep for your score
This isn't bench from a BGA Turd!!
This is from one of the new modern mobile i7 from Intel!!! Very nice!!
The world go forward can you see
@bloodhawk
http://hwbot.org/submission/3139164_chris_666_wprime___32m_core_i7_6700hq_6sec_757ms
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Looks like he is making it pretty tough on the competition right now....lol
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But at the end of the day, the P570WM3 still trumps almost every record on there....(That's over all records and not pick and choose individual scores out of those records)Last edited: Jun 12, 2016CaerCadarn, Prema and bloodhawk like this. -
This isn't a competition!!! This is to show everyone what BGA can't do!! We have the best from 2015/16. Aka normal laptops with ok hardware
SEE Old entry i7 from early 2013
This is bench from the newest junk!! What a progress after 3 year!!
Edit. @johnksss You know very well that we can't have a 8 or 10 core in today's laptops
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Wait a tic.....where is my firestrike sli score at? Its on premas page.
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Yeah. I'm not stupid. I know all that, although English is not my first language
Why not have fun ???
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Yes, but English is my first language.
So there lies the problem.
Edit. @johnksss You know very well that we can't have a 8 or 10 core in today's laptops
Refer to upper post where i said. You can't go picking scores where you can win at. It's all or nothing.
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I wish I had my scores saved from my P570WM with the 2680 v2 , I forgot what wPrime scored.
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I think you do. If I remember correctly, I was only able to maintain 3.2Ghz or 3.5Ghz on load on all cores. Somewhere around there. You have what 8-cores @ 4.5Ghz? lol
I do remember beating some overclocked 4960X and 4930K CPUs but the 1680v2 overclocked is still king in laptops. Don't know if the 12-core would beat yours though, there were at least two users on TI that had that one.
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12 would win on stock i think. Didn't resiualvoltage have a 12 core in his?
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I fixed this for you bro
. This are getting more accurate.
Number 1 Magician = johnksss and Mr. Fox
No one after...
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Number 3 or whatever you will call it... Magician = bloodhawk and Papusan
Edit @Phoenix Don't forget the new one http://hwbot.org/submission/3239034_papusan_wprime___32m_core_i7_6700k_4sec_182ms
And this is also wrong wPRIME 1024M:@bloodhawk @Papusan / Score: 132.491 seconds - 2min 12sec 491 msLast edited: Jun 13, 2016CaerCadarn, Johnksss, Mr. Fox and 1 other person like this. -
FWIW I think these bench threads are awesome as it can give some real insight into performance, information that is otherwise lacking even in reviews. You don't need to be first to show that, that's just a bonus.
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Because he seems to have the best 6700K of us all. I've got an amazing CPU, too... just not binned as well as his.
His settings do not work for my CPU. Mine requires more voltage than his does... just the silicon lottery in general. This is totally normal and changing the settings for power and voltage won't make mine run any faster (I've tried very hard and this is as good as it I can get so far, bearing in mind we're talking about 0.2 seconds difference. One Windows process or service running could make up that difference very easily.)
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I fixed that for you. There's no way... Brother @johnksss has way more experience than I do and at least 75% of what I know about overclocking is thanks to his friendship. I am flattered though, and I'm definitely not a noob.
The thing that makes me sad is knowing there are probably some folks just sitting out there playing Plants vs Zombie, WoW or DOTA on a stock 6700K that's even better than the one @Papusan has and they don't have a clue because they never overclock and could do the same thing with a Core2 Duo or a BGA turdbook.Last edited: Jun 13, 2016 -
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Ay yo, DOTA is a fine game, dont hate on it. I play it every day.
Offense taken.
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Definitely, and I know Brother @Phoenix was not offended.
There is no substitute for knowledge and experience.
- Excellent Hardware + Knowledge/Experience = Amazing Results
- Excellent Hardware + No Knowledge/Experience = Wasted Hardware
- Crappy Hardware + Knowledge/Experience = Lousy Benchmark Scores/Sad Overclocker
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Wasted Hardware here
I just wish there were more resources or service manuals on what some of the settings do in the BIOS.
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