Clevo P870DM-G Review

Oh, in that case, I don't know yet. Awaiting the machine, no date set!

 

Not going to tear down the laptop for this bro. I don't know what's the difference but heck, every bit counts as this Skylake CPU is no different than Haswell. It is hot as a barbecued chicken but the good thing about Skylake is it auto manages itself as in, if the CPU reaches a high temp rather than it shutting down the system or giving you a blue screen, it would simply throttle down and then you know you need to adjust the Voltage, current, etc. to get the perfect balance of lower heat and no throttling. Thanks to Mr. Fox who taught me this as I am a noobie when it comes to overclocking.

 

Who did you order it from?

 

Give me answers on those questions when you get your Killer-Edition. Thanks

@Matrix Leader Killer-Edition come from Multicom.no a Clevo reseller in Norway. I have buying from them earlier. Normally you can customize some Clevo models for your desire. But this laptop is to new for customization now. This will come soon.

 

is ICD on all Clevo P870DM-g machines? Like the one I ordered? As in "by default"? (thinking cpu/gpu)

 

Yes IC Diamond is on both the CPU / GPU by default. So I told HIDevolution to apply CLU on the CPU ONLY

Where did you order your Phoenix from?

 

Multicom.no Norwegian website.

 

It depends where you order it from for the paste, the factory compound is not IC diamond, somer sellers may choose to re-paste it.

 

oh right my bad, I think Sager has IC Diamond by default but not all resellers

 

try occt large data set for 5 min as stress test for bench stable and 20 min for everyday critical system rockstable xtu stress test is basically kindergarden compared to occt and doesnt bring up the potential errors one could face
also, ure missing one multi on 3 and 4 cores to reach stock 4790k speeds

btw those extra copper heatsinks are just small ram heatsinks attached to the machine's stock heatsinks, they slow down temp rise but also trap more heat inside the chassis so in the end they dont really do much...

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The best practise is to check with the reseller in question to be 100% sure.

 

These ram heatsinks can lower the temp a bit if you use a mod Cooler Master U3. But you must use good 12v fans and cutting holes in the cooler so that the air flow becomes much better.

 

The air needs to be able to escape properly too.

 

It might also depend on the model. Some of the Sager "-S" models will have IC Diamond by default, but not on the regular, non -S models typically. But I agree with Meaker, check with your reseller to be sure.

 

PassMark Performance Test Benchmark Resuslt added to the OP:

 

Not bad results at all for 4.2ghz.

 

Dude how are you? Do you any issue with that beast? i mean about the temp of system, throttle issue or something?

 

it's perfect, other than the fact that heat wise, 4.2GHz is my limit. Even with Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra and the advanced copper heatsink on, anything higher than 4.2GHZ is not stable. I didn't get a very good CPU in terms of overclockability but at stock the temps are fine.

 

I think the adv copper cooling not help too much for degree the temp :-?? But the Liquid Ultra finish it job so well, how about the temp of gpu during you playing game :-??

 

Those heatsinks make Temps worse in my experience.

 

Oh really ? I have some idea for modding liquid cooling for this beast but i need go to work for money 1st

 

Honestly it probably wouldn't make things worse on this machine since it has such good airflow as long as you use a cooling pad but my P377SM-A's vents are constrained to say the least so the heat just got trapped.

 

Humh what is the best cooling pad for this beast?

 

I tried looking up the mod that everyone is using for the U3 but only found the 6 fan mod. I didn't buy a pad because of the aforementioned airflow issue with my machine and my unwillingness to mod the case. Ask @Mr. Fox, he will tell you everything you need to know.

 

Your Cpu Mark in Passmark is 10947. The cpu score is too low for @4.2ghz. Is it because of Win 10 crippled the score? I've tested earlier with +11460 up to 11559 cpu mark @4.2Ghz. Tested with Win 8.1. It looks like Win 10 is useless in benchmark tests. If possible test rather with Win 7 / 8.1
My old passmark test with @4.2Ghz - stock vbios and Win 8.1

@Matrix Leader Your old PassMark score... http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/4810mq-easily-overclocks-to-4ghz.761112/#post-9769699

@ElCaptainX Use @Mr. Fox U3 mod but cut holes for the fans as well. This ensures a better air flow. http://imgur.com/a/IGq3C#0

 

Its because Passmark is trash.

 

I know. But it seems Win 10 crippling every bench test. PassMark isn't the only one. But I thought Win 8.1 and 10 was nearly in same liga

 

10 is speedier than 8.1 but slower than 7 just like 8.1

Why Microsoft can't optimize the NT kernel is beyond me...

 

If you think 10 is speedier than 8.1 so should PassMark cpu score be higher at @4.2Ghz. You can only verify this with a bench with 7 or 8.1. Or run a new benchmark with PassMark and 10. Maybe some other who have Win 10 can run this bench test. I haven't tested Threshold 2 but previous 10 gave lower cpu score in some bench tests.

 

Hey guys, any one know how to install win7 on ssd samsung 850 EVO SATA 3 2,5"? Or just install on it normal like HDD? And how i can switch to legacy and UEFI on this beast?

 

Passmark is one of the most garbage benchmarks around. Use a real benchmark like wPrime 1024M

 

Totally agree. Wprime 1024 is the stress test I prefer. Along with Cinebench 11.5 and 3Dmark11. But anyway; The main problem with PassMark is that you can not get approved new higher score if it is too similar to the previous slightly lower scores. There is also almost no one who want use this benchmark test as it is not popular. Quite understandable. What good is a benchmark test when no one wants to compete.

 

I think doesn't help that Passmark doesn't support SLI either.

 

oh darn, I never knew that!

 

Yeah and forcing AFR makes it crash.

 

A range of benchmarks and real life testing is always going to give you a more complete picture.

 

It doesn't crash for me with AFR enabled on 980 SLI or 780M SLI, but I don't like it much either. Doing so doesn't allow both GPUs to be properly tested anyhow. It's kind of an antiquated benchmark. Plus, every time I submit one, it ends up being disqualified for some goofy reason. Apparently, nobody that works there understands laptops can perform like desktops or they want "average/mainstream examples" in their database. I also don't like that you cannot update your baseline score unless it is over some arbitrary percentage. There are plenty of other excellent benchmark tools. If you want more than CPU and GPU, Sandra and AIDA64 are both comprehensive and respected as industry standard. I don't see many people using Passmark any more.

 

Hey, just got mine today. I want to use one of your profiles you linked here. Is there just to download, and apply in XTU?
I'm not going to OC, but undervoldt and keep stock performance 4ghz-4.2 ghz. Wich one of your profiles should I download then?
Reason beeing no OC is to keep temp down until I get to know my machine better!

ty!

 

After further testing these profiles are not stable and cause the temps to reach 98C under load; this is with Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra and an advanced copper heat sink , don't even install XTU it will cause the fans to keep running at full blast.

 

Ok, I have allrdy installed it, and loaded ur profile. Are you saying that I should uninstall and it will go back to default?

 

Set the profile back to default then uninstall it

 

Don't think I made a default profile, just tought it was saved from the beginning. How can I find a default profiel, or do I just set default speed etc, and then uninnstall?

Do I have to reset cmos? Is that even an option on a laptop?

Reedit: Is it the XTU that makes the fans spin even in idle? As in, it doesnt matter if I OC og just lower the volt for default speed?
Reedit: Seems to be the GPU fans that spins in idle. Been reading a little about it, just frustrating.

 

huh? that doesnt sound right@keep the fans at full blast. im rather thinking that installing xtu just switched the fan profile to maximum, u can easily change that back via the clevo control center to automatic or switch the fans off again via fn+1 keyboard combo...

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Click on profiles in XTU, you will see DEFAULT, now click on it then select show values then apply.

Resetting the CMOS can be done by removing the back cover then unscrewing the keyboard marked screw, then you will find a small whole near it which when pressed with a screw driver would pop out the keyboard, then take out the battery for 3 - 5 mins and put it back, that will clear the CMOW/NVRAM. When you start your system again it will take a long time, don't worry, that is normal.

 

I know that, when I set the fans to automatic by pressing the FN + 1 button, the fans spin down like normal since the CPU temp would be around 45-50C, then even if I don't do anything they would spin up to full throttle again. Very annoying, if I don't install XTU, this never happens and I rarely ever hear them since I am just surfing the web most of the time.

 

theres another fan profile called "overclock" that only appears once xtu is installed. ull have to manually switch from that profile to automatic then all is well again

overclock profile is just like automatic, only that its way more aggressive and unlocked to 100% speed, whereas automatic is capped at 80%.

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thanks a lot! never knew this, I'll try it again in this case

 

BTW, @Mr. Fox says the default voltage on the Skylake is way too high, so what is a good voltage if one wants to run @ 4.2 GHz?

 

Something less than default. That means test it on each CPU and find out how low you can go and still pass 3DMark 11 physics and Cinebench R11.5 CPU testing without a lockup or BSOD.

Change it from "Default" to 1.175V, click "Static" and then save it. If both tests pass without throttling or BSOD, drop it a couple more clicks, rinse, repeat. When you get unstable, got back up a couple of clicks and then enjoy a CPU that runs well.

 

Which is fine if you want it to go full pelt all the time, for 24/7 dynamic voltage is fine.