Clevo P870DM-G Review

Can you post a picture of your back cover? I removed every single one of those bottom plastic/aluminum shield underneath the cover.

 

This should be a pic of my bottom plate and compnents.

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I have made a few small changes since these. My machine it's way back to eurocom as my left mouse button quit working.

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Here you go I actually had a pic from when I sat with GTVEVO and did this. Here's my modified cover.

 

Thank you guys for taking the time to take those pictures. My cover looks exacly the same ecvept for the aluminum shield at the bottom of it. I removed it completely but i dont think that would make any difference

 

Just to verify you are using the overclock fan profile?

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I am, yes. the overclock profile is only available after you install intel xtu. i have tried maximum fan settings and it just takes longer to get up there

 

As we continue to try and understand a bit better I wanted to ask do you use VSYNC or GSYNC during gaming or do you let the GPUS run at 100% constantly? Humm with Intel XTU installed you should have 3 profiles present, Automatic, Overclock and Custom, sounds like high fan you still have the same issues though. What is the air temp of the room? How did the mounting surface on the heatsinks look, no imperfections and smooth I am assuming?

 

Here is my bench test for you.. 15 mins of heaven as requested.

 

I have the overclocked fan profile without installing XTU ever. Maybe it detected my overclock from the BIOS

 

Wow, your temps are super low. Simply WOW bro

 

My home is around 76f is where i have my AC set at. I am in Los angeles so weather can get a bit warm but home is cool temp. This also happens in the morning when is cold, it just takes longer. no rough imperfections, i have repasted twice just in case with IC dimond paste and nothing. Keep in mind I also repasted the primary gpu and that has no issues. This is the second system replacement with the same issue... so i highly doubt is the fan. Im a bit lost... dont know what else to try

I have vsync on but my monitor is 100hrz refresh rate (oc) so yes, they are both constantly working 100% as they should

 

you also get an option to overclock ur gpu via clevo control panel. thats only available on gtx 980 systems I think

 

That's true, when I had SLI that overclocking icon for the GPU didn't show up automatically although I was able to launch it manually from the folder where the control center is installed

 

I went one extra step and decided to run another 15 min Heaven with 2 variables changed. I turned on the cooling pad fan and switched on my GPU OC of 200/150.

 

I think that's the difference, I can't tell a difference between 75 and 100 so I run 75 max. Running 100 is asking for 25pct more perf so they are prob pegged constantly. Also room temp from 72 to 76 doesn't sound like much but it makes a difference. I think if you want to run with your GPUS at 100% and that room temp all the time a cooling pad with high static pressure fans is going to make or break you.

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I think you should be able to run your GPUs at 100% on stock clocks and not get up in the 90s on these notebooks. i know my m18x R2 had exceptional cooling must say this one falls short in that area if this is the case.

 

Then again they did not have to contend with a desktop CPU

 

I am sorry man but to compare the P870dm to the AWm18x R2 in perf or cooling abilities is off the grid. Turn down the P870dm to the performance level of the AWm18R2 or about 1/4th its current perf level and then check your temps if you want to compare. I understand what you are saying still but with the panel overclocked you are asking for more from the CPU and GPU. Other ways you might try is tuning the CPU to use less power and produce less heat soak, anything can help. If you don't want a cooling pad try to elevate the back of the machine, as the resting surface heats up the machine will continue to run warmer temps. Add an additional copper or heat pipe to each of your cards, this is completely custom but can be done. Work with your vendor most importantly which it sounds like you are doing so just keep us informed on how you resolve.

 

Dont get me wrong i love this laptop. I just wish they would have put more thought engineering the cooling of the second GPU. Over all, this is a much better system than m18xr2 in lots of aspects. The SOUND so much better, I got dual pce e ssd and is super fast... and yes! desktop cpu is a complete beast. The cooling for the second gpu does needed to be better thought of. I think they focused more on single gpu setup (desktop gtx 980) than sli.

 

Well, This is not relevant, I had 980M sli in my m18x r2. So i am comparing the temperatures literally apples to apples. There are quite a few folks that would agree with me. This laptop is a beast but there is no reason for secondary gpu to be running 88c. Turn off Vsync off and run crysis 3 for 30 minutes and u let me know if those temps are good or not.

 

Wow, your temps are rather amazing for a VID of 1.3V .
What are your ambient temperatures? And is the processor using CLU on both die and IHS ? or stock TIM?

 

I got pretty lucky with my CPU. Overall it's always run cool. My room is generally around 68F. I use a cooling pad but there is no CLU. Stock from Mythologic and they use the IC Diamond.

 

Gotcha, i failed to see the processor wasn't on full load, im guessing the temps go to tops about 80C?
These are what mine are like, at about 1.25V. With the ambient around 70-75F. It does have CLU on the die and Kryonaut on the IHS.


But the GPU temps are seriously impressive.

 

Yea I haven't seen my CPU past 80-81c in a while. That's why I don't go crazy with my undervolt because I find stability for long term gaming is better with less harsh of an offset. Gaming is a whole different monster than benchmarking. Your temps look good too I know CLU is like magic I just don't have the need to do it.

My GPU temps have been absolutely outstanding. No matter what OC I throw at it I never worry about temps. Just stability and what voltage I need to run at. I think the absolute highest GPU temp I hit on slave has been 77c.

Thanks for the kind words!!

 

Yes we can, but why use this bloatware for GPU overclocking when you can use Nvidia Inspector with access to volt adjustment?

 

I see, the AW18 R2 is the last hurrah built honestly and its cool that you was able to the 980m sli up and running. As for temps to compare it would depend upon gpu performance you was able to achieve between the two before measuring. Besides the point for GPU 2 to be 88 deg I have never had the slave GPU above 80 that I can remember so I feel that you have a prob from the beginning just as others do yet you are not accepting to it. So at this point other methods where brought up since you have done some replacements to try such as using a cooling pad or trying to diagnose using pressure tape and you are not accepting too this either so I don't know if there is anything else to say except I hope you try and get it figured out and wish you the best of luck. Edited: Ad I just read why you made the switch.

I would do some testing but I don't have my P870dm-g here as its at eurocom due to the left mouse button deciding to fail.

 

@Juang1985, I wonder if you're seeing something that tanzmeister reported here - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...71dm-p775dm-thermal-paste-replacement.789825/

 

He is the luckiest guy on earth man this CPU he got seems to be from the Silicon Lottery Valley in France . He could probably run it without thermal paste and it'll still be cold

 

WOWW amazing man!!

 

Haha true, but id still love to see the temps 2 mins into a stress test.

 

You will have to see what you can do to tweak it if you intend to overclock, otherwise the heatsink should cope with stock without throttling (outside the normal turbo restrictions).

 

Nothing a cooling pad cant do I use it at my girlfriends house all the time so i refuse to carry it with me all the time is note pal 3 or something like that

 

well he said he never saw temps go past 80C even without CLU. I think he got one of the best systems on the planet when it comes to the CPU / GPU silicon lottery which explains why he has the lowest temps for CPU / GPU. I wish my system was as good as he his. He is so lucky.

 

That's the silicon lottery for you, system builders also wish every chip was that good

 

I'll tell you what I'm very very impressed with my GPUs. I'm currently testing a 230/150 OC and still my temps after 45 mins of gaming are hovering around 69/72c.

After my one was replaced it's been game on lately!

 

Those are great temps. Turn off Vsync and play Crysis 3 maxed out settings and let me know your temps after that.

 

If I had that game I'd love to! Maybe I'll buy it just for science. I'm confident my temps will remain low! I used to play crisis way back. NEVER was happy with performance so maybe this is meant to be. I ended up putting my OC to 190/150 since certain games were crashing from the 230. Temps are pretty much identical either way. I'll let you know if I end up getting it.

 

I thought Crysis 3 was one of those games that has bad SLI support

 

Not really, it scales pretty decently. Not as good as the newer TR's though.

 

Well Im on break from work and for 10 dollars why not.. I will buy it and see how it runs!

 

That right there is commitment!

 

I could hammer both 980Ms in my P570WM with crysis 3 pretty easily IIRC, around 80-90% load on both GPUs.

 

About to find out now.. cranking up max settings and giving it a go!

 

Run stock clocks first then run stock without vsync / overclocked panel then run overclock

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yes

your cards will be pulling 120+ watts on each one and your temps will be different than when pulling 108 watts when capping the fps. My ASIC scores are 74 on primary and 77 on secondary. even then they pull 128 watts on crysis 3.

 

yeah, crysis 3 is pretty heavy game. battlefield 4 could be heavy too, if you uncap FPS. if u run them at 75fps then gpus will not be taxed as much.

@GTVEVO I tried capping on bf4 to stock refresh rate of 75fps and then overclocked my screen to 100hz and i was surprise by the difference. give it a shot @100 refresh rate is much smoother but yes, your gpus will also get hotter.

 

I did not read this beforehand sorry!! I didn't do stock clocks I started with my gpu OC I have at 190/150. I did turn off Vsync however so this will give you a great idea

Challenge completed for the most part? lol

 

really good temps. How long did you let it run crysis 3? also, no cooling pad right

 

That was 45 mins or so. Actually yes I did run the cooling pad. I can run it again without the pad on. I suspect about 5c more with fans off. GPUs were 99% whole time and Max settings msaa x8.

 

the cooling pad makes quite a difference. Would you run it without cooling pad for us? 45 minutes is a very good run 72c even with cooling pad is quite impressive. lets see how the temps loook after 20-25 mins of crysis without cooling pad.