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    **D900F (Sager 9280) Owners Lounge**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by MrButterBiscuits, May 13, 2009.

  1. birndof

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    Anyone have a version number on this? (Yes, I see the _03 in the file name. Looking for confirmation from someone who installed it).

    It says 'Revision 1.0' at offset 0x1EA938, but I also see an A03 and and A04 sprinkled in there. It also doesn't look like my other version of 1.0, which came with a .iso file.

    Trying to keep my web archive up to date...
     
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    So do I need to update the Clevo BIOS thread now ? So should I wait a little until it is tested?
     
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    I'd wait. I'm not convinced that's a new version (not that I'm doubting anyone, I just haven't seen the proof.. No readme or revision history included).
     
  5. birndof

    birndof Notebook Guru

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    I have installed it.
    it is just updating the bios .it has erased the old bios and installed this new one within 30 secs.
    to be honest I did not notice any change . my gamekey still does not work with 7 x 64 ultimate. it is supposed to be a special one for win 7. No oc available and no special features appear if we compare this one to the second bios
     
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    When you have a chance, can you give us the version number?
     
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    The_Stig Notebook Evangelist

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    I have some questions about the D900F if you can answer them.

    At the min i`m looking for a new laptop, i have 2 in mind. Can you tell me which is the best to go for from these 2, the Comanche i believe is a rebranded D900F and the other one i`m looking at is a Comanche Sli which i think is a rebranded Clevo M980NU/Sager NP9850.

    Comanche

    http://www.kobaltcomputers.co.uk/comanche_overview.php

    Comanche Sli

    http://www.kobaltcomputers.co.uk/comanchesli_overview.php

    The Comanche Sli will have the Q9300 processor and the Comanche an i7.

    On the D900F are the fans running constantly or do they work on a temp sensor and only come on when required, how quiet are the fans ?

    I just want to try and make the right choice, ideally fans that are fairly quiet and only come on when required and generally a fairly quiet machine, good processing power with decent graphics.
     
  8. BrandonSi

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    What's the primary use / main reason for buying?
     
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    The_Stig Notebook Evangelist

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    I do a fair bit of video editing and use graphic software as well so a good processor is my first starting point, i watch dvd`s on my laptop and do general web based stuff as well.

    I wouldn`t say i was a big gamer but i occasionally play the odd game, i like to have the power their if needed if you know what i mean, i`m basically after future proofing myself as much as you can when buying a new machine like most people try to do.

    Anything i buy won`t be a Dell/Alienware hence why i`m looking at Clevo based laptops at the min or similar, the reason for buying is Dell have basically stitched me up well and truely with the laptop in my sig so never again with them.
     
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    birndof Notebook Guru

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    @BrandonSi

    each time I launch my puter following datas appear on the screen
    rev bios version 1.00.03
    Kb/ec firmware vers 1.00.02

    only the bios has been updated
     
  11. BrandonSi

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    Thanks!

    Blacky, this is the same bios from last time (the one I'm hosting and the one you linked in your bios list), nothing new.
     
  12. BrandonSi

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    In that case I'm not sure you'd get the real use out of the SLI setup. IMHO, I'd stick with the single video card. The D900F certainly will be the choice for video and graphics editing as it has the desktop version of the i7 processor.

    Have you read Gophn's fantastic (and very thorough) D900F review? It was linked to a few pages back, and believe it's in his sig as well.
     
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    Looks like it... thanx for the help.
     
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    Could be great that the guys who know about, simply state that there is a new bios available.
    I am a bit fed up with those clevo sites ,that do not put online drivers and bios.

    After all, we all legally bought a D900F and most of us cannot simply get the new bios :mad: .Next step may include the drivers. :(


    As for myself here are the bios I have for the d900F
    (but for the first one)

    I made screenshots of the files contained in the zipfile

    second bios

    [​IMG]


    second bios (the same as an alternative)

    [​IMG]

    third bios (for win 7)

    [​IMG]


    beta Sager's bios for winxp

    [​IMG]


    If U have other bios in store ,do not hesitate to mention them ;)
     
  15. Gophn

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    Most Clevo vendors will NOT have the BIOS updates available for public download.
    - the reason being that you can ruin your notebook if you do not know what you are doing (most of us at NBR may know what we are doing, but the majority of the public probably does not)

    You must contact them to get a hold of the BIOS updates.
     
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    sometimes I get a little random beep noise from the laptop. Nothing happens I just hear "beep" from inside the laptop... any idea why? anyone else get this?
     
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    drpencilcase Notebook Enthusiast

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    I get it too...but I don't know what it is.
     
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    Hey,

    I'm quoting this post from some time ago as the question really interests me and it seems it hasn't been answered yet.

    I am the - so far happy - owner of a D900F computer. I asked the company I bought it from before purchasing it wether it would support an external 30 inches monitor in its full 2560x1600 resolution - one of the main criterias for my laptop choice - and was told it would support it just fine, except for the Apple model for some reason.

    I now have the D900F in hands and connected a Dell 3007WFP 30 inches monitor to it. The maximum resolution I seem to be able to get is 1280x800. I tried connecting a Samsung Syncmaster 305T Plus 30 inches monitor to it. Same thing. I saw that "problem" mentioned on tomshardware ( http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/eurocom-d900f-panther,2354-6.html). nVIDIA's website page for the nVIDIA Geforce GTX 280M graphic card that's powering the D900F says under Specifications that the Maximum Digital Resolution and Maximum VGA Resolution are 2048x1536.

    Any chance you guys can shed some light on this? Am I just not going to be able to support a 2560x1600 resolution on my 30, or is there a way?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  19. BrandonSi

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    What's the refresh rate set at on the monitor?
     
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    Under Display Settings, Advanced Settings, Monitor, Screen Refresh Rate is set at 60 Hertz, no other option available.
     
  21. BrandonSi

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    You're using single display option right, not cloning the laptop screen to the external monitor?
     
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    VeEuzUKY Notebook Consultant

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    Im installing XP Pro on my 900F and need to indentify some of the hardware to search for correct drivers. Could someone tell me the model of these componets of the 900F:
    - LAN (I think its a Realtek)
    - Audio (also I think its Realtek)
    - ExpressCard (possibly doesnt need any extra drivers)
    - SD CardReader


    Thank you very, very much :) :p ;)
     
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    Thank you very much. Is the WLAN Adapter:
    Intel Wi-Fi Link 5300AGN or 5350AGN?

    I think the drivers are the same and I can get them directly from intel's support site...

    Thanks again :) :) :)
     
  25. Costals

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    Yes pretty sure, different things going on on each screen no cloning.

    edit: I have asked my reseller who is currently asking Clevo for an official answer as well. I'll be happy to contribute to the thread by posting it once I get it.
     
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    You're welcome. The Intel WiFi Link 5300/5100 drivers should work, I do not know which exact model you have, or even if all D900F's got the same wLAN card. Good luck with the install. ;)
     
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    VeEuzUKY Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks a lot for your help :) :) :)

    I played with Windows 7 all day on the 900F (most drivers for Vista work just fine). Overall Windows 7 is dramatically better and cleaner than Vista, definitely a major step forward. But XP is still the leanest and fastest for what I do despite the RAM limitations...

    Thanks again :)
     
  28. birndof

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    I can only second that but for your xp assertion (except for some old games) and above all Vista coze win7 does the job. I only have one trouble with da gamekey under win7 ultimaye x64 coze the drivers fail.

    Did anybody experience da same? (gamekey win7 drivers)
     
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    Hi guys,

    I am new here and need some help.

    With regards to the memory speed the desktop i7-920 can take, I am quite confused. This site:

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-...st.2436.0.html

    says max FSB for all desktop i7s are 1333MHz. However, ark.intel.com shows the max memory speed to be 1066MHz for all i7 desktop chips. Then finally, xoticpc tells me the max memory speed is 1066MHz for the desktop i7-920 and i7-950, but 1333MHz for the i7-975!

    Which one of these is correct???
     
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    XoticPC is pretty accurate.

    you have to realize that its the memory controller on each of the Core i7 CPUs that will give the support of whichever memory to support.

    for the i7-975 Extreme...
    The memory controller is able to handle 64GB/s, a full tri-channel DDR3-1333 implementation will only amount to 32GB/s maximum bandwidth utilization. Do the math and conclude that even DDR3-2000 will not max out the controller.
     
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    Where did you get the 64GB/s figure? I don't see it anywhere at ark.intel.com.

    If the i7-975 is capable of 64GB/s memory controller, what is the max memory controller for the i7-920 and i7-950? Wouldn't they all be 64GB/s then?
     
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    no they wouldn't.

    The Core i7 CPUs are the first Intel processors that has the Memory Controller on-board the CPU itself... rather than having the chipset handle it (like in the previous generation of Intel CPUs)

    here is a good review for the i7-975:
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-975-review/4
     
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    "The Core i7 CPUs are the first Intel processors that has the Memory Controller on-board the CPU itself... rather than having the chipset handle it (like in the previous generation of Intel CPUs)"

    Yes, I understand this, but you said "the Core i7 CPUs" not the i7-975 specifically (this is also stated in the article you linked, where they just refer to the Nehalem architecture in general). The i7-920 and i7-950 are also Core i7 CPUs, so why wouldn't they also have the 64GB/s max memory controller? That is my question.

    Really, I just want to know if the i7-920 I am purchasing will be capable of handling more than 1066MHz rated memory, or if higher than 1066MHz is only reserved for the extreme processor like xoticpc says.

    Thanks for your help.
     
  34. Gophn

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    XoticPC does not claim this... they are relaying information from the people on top.... Sager engineers and Clevo.

    So I would say that they are accurate at relaying the technical information.

    Also, the speed of the memory does NOT affect the overall performance of the CPU.

    it has not been like that [having memory speed match a CPU's frontside bus] for a long time since current systems do not operate at a 1:1 ratio. (look up memory dividers and frontside bus)
     
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    Alright, appreciate your input!
     
  36. enanthate

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    Laptop Display Experts.........

    I really SUCK at tuning the color/brightness/contrast on displays, I am never satisfied and when I think I got it right its cause I have been messin with it soo long that wrong looks right :p


    SO my question is if you consider yourself a expert at display adjustment.. please reply with the settings you have on this laptop.

    Brightness/contrast/gamma/digital vibrance... ya know... :p


    thanks
     
  37. enanthate

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    Try using only the external display so that the laptops screen turns off when connected to the external, I have run into multiple problems using external displays on other laptops that were fixed by simply using the Nvidia control panel to turn off the laptop display while connected to multiple displays.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion! I tried this and the problem remains, I am still only offered a resolution up to 1280x800.

    Any more help appreciated, really!
     
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    I'm terrible at it also. I went and purchased a Pantone Huey Pro to calibrate my monitor for me.
    http://www.pantone.com/Pages/products/product.aspx?pid=562

    It does a great job and is easy to use. It's worth the $100.
     
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    Screens (displays) are not the same, even if they are the same - i.e. my settings with the exact same machine and display does not necessarily translate number for number to your machine.
    This display on the D900F is definately on the blue and cool side, so you should be looking to reduce the blue, to get somewhat more accurate overall colour reproduction and colour temperature. While maintaining the rather good (for a laptop LCD panel) blacks and shadow detail this screen has.
    It can't be calibrated to perfection, and it can never compete with a good external screen - but here are my settings, using the Nvidia control panel, that I found to be a good compromise. Some or all of these will probably have to be adjusted on your machine, to get the same or close end result.

    Red: Brightness 50
    Contrast 65


    Green: Brightness 47
    Contrast 65


    Blue: Brightness 17
    Contrast 7 (yes, seven)


    This should give you, in the All Channels tab:

    Brightness 37, Contrast 45, and then set overall gamma to 0.98.

    It is still too cool, and the colours don't "pop", so turn up the digital vibrance to about 12%. Apply.

    This, for me, gives a much more neutral picture, and much closer to the D65 standard. It may look too warm (yellowish glow) to some, but that is mainly because people are getting used to the popular but incorrect blueish and cool (as in colour temperature) settings many manufacturers uses as standard nowadays.

    As I said, you have to compromise with this display, and using measuring equipment some of the numbers are still off, but overall showing a picture closer to the industry standards - in other words; colours closer to what the content providers see on their calibrated (hopefully) screens.

    if you don't like these settings - discard them. But when adjusting yourself, keep in mind that the main problem with this display is the totally over the top blue.

    I have a thoroughly calibrated external screen (S-IPS) to compare with, and though I still see some differences in the colour reproduction, I'm quite happy with the compromises, comparing a lot of pictures side by side - it is def better than it was out of the box. Skin colour especially, but also the greens are better, and the blues are down to an acceptable level.

    Good luck.
     
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    Yes, a hardware/software calibrator is the best option, one of those that has a sensor to put on your screen, and software to match. I dont know much about the Pantone, but others that I can recommend is the Spyder3 Elite and the LaCie Blue Eye. Still, with TN panels or other less than top quality displays (read laptop displays), you still have to compromise - some of the final adjustments are therefore often necessary to do with the human eye.
     
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    D900F Windows 2008 R2 driver installation problems (ICH10R).
    Reason of the question – time to time in result I am receives BSOD.


    I am install 2008 R2 Server operate system.
    1. Auto driver Installation :
    I can’t install driver for chipset.
    I had last version of drivers for Intel chipset
    * Product: Intel(R) Chipset Device Software
    * Release: Production Version
    * Version: 9.1.1.1020
    * Target Chipset#: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset
    * Date: August 26 2009
    (from clevo site ftp://ftp.clevo.com.tw/D900F/OTHERS/Chipset_W7.zip)
    That driver support Windows 2008 R2 but I can’t install that driver – setup work very fast – say OK but…
    All installed driver from Microsoft – and I can’t change that!

    2. Manual process installation according including instruction to Intel driver 9.1.1.1020
    Original instruction…
    ************************************************************
    * 9G. INSTALLING THE Windows Server* 2008 R2 INF FILES AFTER
    * OS INSTALLATION
    ************************************************************

    10. Click on MPS Uniprocessor PC -OR- MPS
    Multiprocessor PC.

    NOTE:
    Only one of the above items will be
    displayed for a given system.

    11. Click on PCI bus.
    12. Right-click on the line containing the description
    PCI standard host CPU bridge
    -or-
    PCI standard ISA bridge
    -or-
    PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
    -or-
    PCI System Management Bus
    -or-
    Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller
    -or-
    Standard Universal PCI to USB Host Controller
    (This line will be selected.)
    My steps.
    10. Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
    11 . +
    12. Can’t find nothing like that – most similar “Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E”
    If I Choose that one – in result I receive message “Windows has determined the driver software for your device is up to date.”
    In fact I can't change driver from Microsoft !
    If I choose only problem devices (marked in device manager) and try to chose manual – I don’t know what file one from 14 *inf files I need selected and what exactly driver I need install.

    If somebody had 2008 Operate system in d900f please response.
    Please help me resolve that problem
    Thanks Aleksey.
     
  44. enanthate

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    thanks for the awesome reply,

    thanks to all who replyed :)
     
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    Can anyone recommend a laptop cooler for the D900F. I'm about to buy this laptop, and would like to get it the best cooler available. Thanks!
     
  46. Gophn

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    Welcome to the NBR forums. :)

    there is a great thread on this topic at the NBR Cooling Central.

    but for the most part, the most popular coolers are:
    - Zalman ZM-NC2000
    - NZXT Cryo LX
    - Cooler Master Infinite
     
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    What type of hybrid DVB-T tuner card options with HDTV capabilities are in the Clevo D900F models in Europe,perhaps with S-video-in possibility from analog side? The following cards are or not compatible with Clevo D900F :
    - Lifeview FlyTV Express Mini MST-TA (LR873NTA)
    - Azurwave AD-TM510
    - ATI Theater HD 750
    From the Inside Multimedia i have heard it,that only the original Clevo TV tuner card can be used and this has an S video-in and it is HDTV capable(DVB-T).Is this thru,that only the original Clevo TV tuner(who is the manufacturer?) is compatible?
     
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    Welcome to the NBR forums. :)

    If you are wondering which DVB-T TV Tuners are compatible with the D900F, I recommend the:
    - Yuan MC770A
     
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    Thank you for the quick answer.This Yuan MC770A is it capable for HDTV reception? Because on the taiwanese website is not mentioned for this type,only for the MC701.
     
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