So if my base frequency is 1,657Mhz, then why does my base only run at 1,557Mhz in games on the menu screens and things like that?
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When there's low load on the GPU, ie. loading screen, the card will enter a lower P-state that has a lower clock speed.
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I think you’ve misunderstood. In a non load state the card should say 1,656 and not 1,556. Because the default clocks are 1,656.
the card is factory overclocked to 1,656 but afternurner and in games menus with light load do not represent this 100mhz factory overclock.
So if my base frequency is 1,656 why does it only show 1,556? Where is it even getting this frequency from?
do you see the GPU-Z?Last edited: Nov 14, 2019 -
yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso
Clock speeds listed in GPU-Z are meaningless anyway.
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My GPU does not clock down. Not even during idle power state. Tried balanced power plan, it is stuck at 3D performance 100% of the time. Oh well.
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yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso
What’s your power management mode in Nvidia Control Panel set to?
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You can force different P-States with nvidiainspector tool.
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Use HWinfo64, HWmonitor or the tab "monitors" on gpu-z to check the Real Time clock. On Windows desktop at idle the clock should be like 100+ MHz
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It is on high performance but neither power mode in NVcontrol panel helps lower to the 2D clocks, and even with high performance a GPU will still downclock. I’ve tried everything. Uninstalled msi AB completely, reinstalled GPU drivers, changed windows and nvidia power levels and it runs full tilt 24/7.
so I’m just gonna leave it that way.
My cpu does the same thing. Even with windows on balanced power. Even power saver mode still pushes and runs 5Ghz on the cpu lol.
I’ve got speed step on in the bios.
I may have to reinstall windows.Last edited: Nov 14, 2019 -
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Might want to flash the bios and reset defaults in case the previous user messed with something.
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How do you guys control fans without Sager Control? Any options other than that
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I’ve gotten the CPU to speed step properly. Now if only the GPU would.
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Use obsidian pc control station. Works flawlessly
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So my power plan was set to balanced with a 5% min cpu 100% Max with all other plan options set accordingly for full performance when needed.
although my battery icon in the task has a slider which was set to maximum performance preventing the CPU from down clocking.
I moved the battery slider to “Better Performance” and now the CPU will idle down just fine.
But I’m not sure why the battery power plan is controlling the laptops performance while the machine is plugged in on power?
I booted in safe mode and ran DDU and wiped all nvidia drivers. The GTX1080 is also downclocking perfectly now too.Last edited: Nov 14, 2019 -
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I thought this starts at 38C, unless the card is locked to a much lower voltage point (like 0.882v). -
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Not sure bro Falkentyne, would have to check to be certain.
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Back up and running guys. My windows took a massive dump on me Thursday morning. Luckily I had downloaded the Windows ISO file already and stored it on my PC planning to reinstall windows on a future date with the Roofus USB tool.
I was able to transfer the files on a external USB thumb drive with Command prompt. Then I used my neighbors PC to create a bootable windows 10 installation!jaybee83 likes this. -
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Exactly right. 1909 update installed fine, after turning in my laptop the next morning I got BSOD “srt.trail.txt and restore or recovery wouldn’t function either.
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1909 update messed up my windows. All is well now though.
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I installed windows 1909. So no updating to it from a previous version required. No problems at all so far. Not gonna lie though anytime windows suggested a restart due to a update or driver install. I was seriously afraid lol.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
The Microsoft coin flip
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Wait, so what's borked in 1909?
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I have no idea. I just know that if you update to it you may ruin your OS.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
It forces a new version of .net to exclusively run which is causing fun in all sorts of applications.
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I started playing the game Kingdom come deliverance again. It is extremely CPU and GPU intensive.
My last laptop with a 7820HK couldn’t push the GPU to 100% all the time and render the poorly optimized title.
8086K running at 4.8GHZ destroys this game. So much smoother. I can instantly feel a difference as I put in nearly 60 hours of game play with my old laptop over a year ago.
And, both versions of the game are on 1.2v. I can only imagine a 9900K at just stock speeds.jaybee83 likes this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Depends how well threaded it is.
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If it uses all threads, a stock 9900k would run 8x 4.7Ghz. Temps would certainly be great.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
That's the caveat of using those threads which is still pretty rare.
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it seems to use all 12 threads really well. It’ll push CPU temps Kinda like BFV does, especially walking around towns. I am not gaming at 5Ghz anymore, as 4.8Ghz is a more realistic overclock. 200mhz less requires a lot less voltage and much cooler load temps in the mid 60’s to low 70’s.joluke likes this.
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yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso
Yeah, CryEngine is well threaded similar to Frostbite.
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How are the temps on this thing? It's seems like a hell for cooking with those specs
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Not too bad if you wind back like he did from the bleeding edge.
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Oh yeah, looks good.
You will need to reapply more LM after the initial soak in period. Copper will act like a sponge for the LM at first, until an equilibrium is reached with the alloy and battery potential. After that LM will last a good long while. Brother @Papusan taught me about baking LM into copper for longevity.Last edited: Nov 27, 2019Mr. Fox, Falkentyne and Papusan like this. -
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If you can clean the paste off the thermal pads and vrm/memory chips as its insulating them.
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I did, it took forever. It was quite dry and chalky.
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So after running the laptop apply More LM? I ran this first with no shim at all just to see how it would perform. Seemed incredible with very low temps last night. After this morning temps seemed to only be slightly ok. Maybe only 1-2C better with heavy OC load.Last edited: Nov 27, 2019
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Depending on how much you've applied, you might end up doing several applications until the copper is saturated.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Just don't dump a load in there, do put a small amount at a time.
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I bought my FIRST REAL UPGRADEABLE LAPTOP! I spent $1,100 USD. How did I do?
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