**M980NU (X1/Commanche SLI/NP9850) Owners Thread**

I just talked to the people over at XPC and they have said that they do not have any new information regarding when the laptop will ship. I did find out that Crysis was one of the games that was producing the stuttering issues and possibly Supreme Commander, which I have never heard of. I could careless about Crysis too. I beat it like 2 years ago it seems. Anyway, that is where XPC is ATM. Anyone have any more information? Has anyone talked to Sager today? I think I will give them a shout too.

 

daz did you try the sound setting?

is it better ?

 

Yes, but no difference. I just up dated the driver for Realtek and that option (fill) is no longer there.

Do you the latest driver?

 

I have to think that the issue is so profound they would get too much backlash or the problem is bigger than just two games. The longer the hold off selling it the more money they lose.

 

i have driver version: 6.0.1.5832

dated: 14/04/09

is that it ?

have you set your speaker system to 5.1 or stereo?

 

there have been many reports of micro stuttering in many games while using the sli config option.

perhaps its a bigger problem than we realised.

i hope theres not some underlying problem, that may require a recall

 

Mine is the same as yours but I have the Realtek Audio Manager down in the task bar and I got it from here.

http://www.clevo.fr/index1.html

I have 5.1 but will switch to stereo.

 

Still not available.

 

Do you have this available?

 

i have that too.set to 5.1, with speaker fill option ticked and everything else normal.

all dvd's that use 5.1 sound terrible if you use powerdvd (very tinny and quiet - even when you change to stereo in the program), but vlc plays them great. i'm sure its a driver problem.

try vlc, if its still quiet i think you have a physical problem with the speakers.

 

The speaker closest to me are fine but the ones near the screen are quiet. I'll try the VLC.

 

mine is different

 

which codec does it say you have ?

you get it by clicking the small i icon at the bottom right of the manager.

 

Wonder why.

Where did you get it?

 

came with the laptop.

its on the driver disk from clevo too.

 

when u use vlc, right click and go through the audio settings. mess around a little with 5.1, stereo etc to see how loud they sound.

on my laptop the rear speakers are the loudest, its the 2 front speakers that are quieter.

it was like that on my acer 8920g too.

 

Yes it is louder and not as quiet as the Media Center.

 

If I select 5.1 through VLC while the movie is playing it locks up.

Seems to work now and it is louder!

 

thats weird, for me its the only program i have that plays 5.1 channel soundtracks the way they should be played. i actually get a proper surround effect from them, and the movie sounds like it should i.e. correct bass, no tinny sound etc.

personally i'd uninstall/reinstall the entire real tek suite.

good luck.

 

great, i love vlc. especially since it fixed the sound problem for me in this and my acer

 

Thanks for the help!

Wonder why I don't have the fill option.

 

Mine is not the same it is 6.0.1. 5859

 

Hiya,

I can run fsb 300 24/7 on mine

I have had zero problems with crysis or CrW so i dont know what sager have fudged up

I love my system to bits, the block is exactly the same as the Alienware one, i have them side by side, dont get the M17 expecting the block to be smaller

The fans are MUCH quieter then then m17 so personally its much better in my opinion

 

i thought you had 1066 ram ?

what is your fsb:dram ratio?

 

glad i could help.

 

I womder is I should order different RAM Got 1333 now, but all the issues have me wondering if 1066 is the better choice.

 

He does. This LINK may help explain more.

I don't think there are any issues with 1066 memory. If you believe a bios will be released for this system that will allow you to change the speed of your fsb and memory, 1333 will be better in the long run.

 

it helps a bit but i still find it confusing

 

Just a word about why Sager has yet to release the NP9850.

There is an issue with the SLi video performance (micro stuttering...pausing) that Sager discovered and reported to Clevo. Clevo has now verified that it exists with all of their production models that have been shipped worldwide...not just those received by Sager.

At this time Clevo, Sager and nVIDIA engineers are working on finding a resolution, but to protect their customers from inferior performance Sager will not release the NP9850 until the issue is resolved.

If you would like to see exactly what the issue is you can download and run the short video provided by Sager at http://74.212.252.103/ftp/misc/MVI_2340.zip

 

Well... that makes me wonder what the heck those of us with Clevos are going to do

 

help help help !!

since trying the fsb overclock with nst my notebook has went crazy.

as soon as i turn it on the physical memory keeps filling untill it freezes and locks up.

the resource monitor says its my kaspersky scans, but it was running fine earlier today.

can someone help ?

 

Alright don't flame me, but I sent the info to EUROCOM and this is the response:

"Thanks for info

We do not have any issues with running SLI in our EUROCOM branded models . We are shipping both single VGA and Dual VGA / SLI. As you know EUROCOM has it's own R&D Team so we do not experience issues like other companies. This is what makes us better.

The SLI issue was related to one of resitors located on the mainboard causing performance issue under heavy load when running SLI - and was resolved long time ago by our R&D Team."

 

Now someone mentioned, now don't quote me, that if you overclock in the BIOS and it messes up that you have to remove the battery for the CMOS. Not sure if it applies here though.

 

Someone had the same problem here:

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-hardw...l-memory-fills-up-100-no-apparent-reason.html

 

This is kind of interesting when I mentioned about upgrading in he future to the QX9300.

Intel doesn't plan to dropprices of QX9300 so don't count on this. You may be better off long term to upgrade VGA to next generation Nvidia N11E-GTX with DDR5 coming early next year - N11E-GTX is namecode for next gen VGA silicoon, GTX 280M is N10E

Our next upgrade of M98NU XCaliber is to Intel "Clarksfield platform" based on PM55 chipset and Intel i7 Mobile CPUs 720QM, 820QM and 920QM. Next model will be called X8100 - and will use same mechanical design as the current model.

We will offer upgrade package so you can upgrade your current model to X8100 XCaliber2 by replacing motherboard and CPU (new CPUs are socket 939 different from the current ones).

We will lauch updated model in about 6 months. Same spec and mechanical design- just different motherboard.

 

Thats pretty interesting and seems like you made a good choice then because you have a nice upgrade path for the future .

 

No need to flame...their response pretty much speaks for itself (I just love free speech )

However let's try a little experiment by any of you that actually HAVE a M980NU. Run GRID patched to v1.2 with max res, max setting on everything, including the advance graphic option.

It isn't as noticeable if you don't run it that way. A lot of people miss the advance graphics setting option page as you have to press Shift or Y button if you use a MS Xbox controller for your PC.

Report back to us whether it is smooth, or it shows the stuttering...pausing that is shown in the video I linked to in my previous post.

Let's see if the issue is there, or whether no one other than Sager has discovered it.

 

Was it just that game having issues or has it been seen across many games ?.

 

i imagine alot

 

It shows up on any game that requires fast frame rates, like racing games. You can see it on Crysis too, but it is less noticeable. However if you look carefully you will see it there too.

Careful Moo...since it may be an nVIDIA issue you may see it on yours too if you look closely!

 

no SLI on mine

Xfire all the way ( when they get here)

 

I have Crysis on my laptop so I'll have to give it ago.

 

All I can say is hopefully it's a driver solution and not hardware. If it's hardware that could be expensive to fix (if choosen by the MFR).
I'm just glad it's been found and Sager is taking the right action which is not releasing their model. Of course I wait anxiously but now that I know it make me feel better. Communication is key. Thanks Donald for the explanation.
Daz look forward to your results.

 

Hopefully its something that can be addressed in a bios update of sorts rather then a driver. if its drivers and the machine will need it addressed in every new set that means you cant get modded drivers that would work properly and you dont want to be left out of the new sets, especially with all the SLI profiles they add for new games.

 

So Dazman, what's the average fps you get playing Crysis on max settings on your laptop?

 

i play on max settings on mine and get upper twenties for the most part in crysis at 1920x1080 4x aa

I dont have any problems with microstuttering at all, but i will keep an eye out for anything

 

Yeah, my worry is that it's a hardware issue that will require a return to fix. The downside to using RJtech is the RMA fee

 

rma fee

Thats what i like with mine i have a problem i can just jump on a half hour train and go drop it off to them

I will keep an eye on it and see what happens, but i just did a session on Warhead and it was running fine didnt have any problems.

To be honest i am having believing that there is a problem with all units as this is the first i have heard about it from either my OEM whom i speak to alot and they havent heard about it either

seems strange to me

 

That's when you need to find a different company to buy from.

 

thanks daz, that led me to discover what memory leakage is

kaspersky has 'issues' with vista 64bit apparently, shame as i loved kaspersky. its gone now and nod32 is in its place and running fine

although its weird it only started after 2 days, perhaps it was nothing to do with the ocing after all.

i'm getting worried by all this talk of total recalls etc, i really hope i've not bought a lemon