*** OFFICIAL Sager NP8760 / Clevo W870CU Owners Lounge ***

I know there is a lot of excitment about the NP8690/W860CU and that's good. I think the NP8760 / W870CU is the ticket right now. To me more is better, I mean the 17.3 LCD and 2 HD's etc. This one well deserves to have a owners lounge. That's why the order for me is..

17.3" Full HD LED Display (1920 x 1080)
Intel® Core™ i7-920XM Processor Extreme Edition
Nvidia GeForce GTX 280M Graphics with 1GB DDR3
4GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz
500GB 7200rpm SATA 300 HD (I will add a 256 SSD too)
2X Blu-ray Reader/8X DVD±R/2.4X +DL
Intel Wi-Fi Link 5300AGN - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless
Bluetooth V2.1 Module
Smart Li-Polymer Battery Pack
Fingerprint Reader

Drivers and Manual Download for NP8760

Official Review of the NP8760

Clevo W870CU Brochure

Clevo W870CU-Sager NP8760 Service Manual Thanks to theriko!

Another Review for the Clevo W870CU with the Extreme 920M

And yet ANOTHER review for the Clevo W870CU!

ELEET TUNING TOOL

The Latest Manual dated 3-30-2010

Who else has ordered or will yet order???

 

I agree, this is the laptop to get. I would like to see some reviews for it though, especially the display.

 

Kinda early ?

But yes these laptops are nice and I prefer 17 inch laptops but the 860 offers the same

 

Minus an HDD port and speakers/subwoofer and smaller display. W860 as of now is stuck with an AUO display so that makes it a bad choice for now. I'm praying the W870 uses a different manufacturer.

 

That my friend was a understood comment

either way clevo has the important parts the same

It's up to the user

 

Size, bulk and price of this makes the NP9280 a very viable alternative, albeit this beauty has the LED screen and two resolution options which is nice. Here, too, is hoping they use a different panel.

 

So what do you think about THIS REVIEW of the 8760? Any others you know of yet?

 

Seems the reviewer is a fan of c rappy netbooks and couldn't get over the form factor of the W870. He seemed disappointed the laptop wasn't full of ugly LED lights and designs which is completely the opposite of what I'd want and I'd guess most of us here. But what really stuck out is this part:

NOOOOOOOO...I was hoping the larger footprint of this notebook was because it would have kick speakers but I guess that isn't so. I suppose I could just keep waiting until the W860 gets a better display than AUO. W870 was my choice because of the speakers + subwoofer but if the bass isn't there, then the bigger footprint and cost isn't worth it for my needs.

 

We have yet to see the AUO screen. However, after a little bit of searching, the Dell users seemed to take a liking to the screen. Nevertheless, we still need the biased opinion from a Clevo user.

 

Just based on the brightness alone (if it's the same as the Euro version which I suspect it is) I think the screen will be a disappointment--at least to those that care about display quality. I'm a huge fan of quality displays so that matters to me, it's why I own a Kuro plasma and not some crappy Samsung LCD. The average user might find the AUO acceptable but based on my experiences with AUO (3 different laptops and screens) I hate it. I looked at LG's website and they're offering these models now:

1. 1920x180p 17.3" display:
Model Name LP173WF1
Active Area [mm]

381.888 X 214.812
Outline Dimension [mm]

398.6 X 233.3
Thickness [mm]

6.0
Resolution

1920 X 1080
Aspect Ratio

16:9
Pixel Pitch [mm]

(127)
Number of Colors

262,144 (6bit)
Luminance [cd/㎡]

300
Color Saturation (%)

72%
Weight [g]

565
Contrast Ratio

600:1
Interface

LVDS 2 Port
Viewing Angle [˚,U/D/L/R]

50/50/60/60
Color Temperature [K]

-
Response Time [ms]

8
MP Schedule

2009.7


2. Model Name LP173WD1
Active Area [mm]

381.8 X 214.8
Outline Dimension [mm]

398.6 X 233.3
Thickness [mm]

6.0
Resolution

1600 X 900
Aspect Ratio

16:9
Pixel Pitch [mm]

0.2388(106)
Number of Colors

262,144 (6bit)
Luminance [cd/㎡]

200
Color Saturation (%)

60%
Weight [g]

570
Contrast Ratio

600:1
Interface

LVDS 2 Port
Viewing Angle [˚,U/D/L/R]

50/90
Color Temperature [K]

-
Response Time [ms]

8
MP Schedule

2009.02


3. 15.6" 1600x900:

Active Area [mm]

344.232 X 193.536
Outline Dimension [mm]

360.0 X 210.0
Thickness [mm]

5.7
Resolution

1600 X RGB X 900
Aspect Ratio

16:9
Pixel Pitch [mm]

0.215
Number of Colors

262,144(6bit)
Luminance [cd/㎡]

250
Color Saturation (%)

60
Weight [g]

460
Contrast Ratio

600:1
Interface

LVDS 2Port
Viewing Angle [˚,U/D/L/R]

50/50/60/60
Color Temperature [K]

-
Response Time [ms]

8
MP Schedule

Now

4. 15.6" 1920x1080:

Model Name LP156WF1
Active Area [mm]

344.232 X 193.536
Outline Dimension [mm]

360 X 210
Thickness [mm]

5.7
Resolution

1920 X RGB X 1080
Aspect Ratio

16:9
Pixel Pitch [mm]

0.179
Number of Colors

262,144
Luminance [cd/㎡]

310
Color Saturation (%)

60
Weight [g]

470
Contrast Ratio

600:1
Interface

LVDS 2Port
Viewing Angle [˚,U/D/L/R]

55/55/65/65
Color Temperature [K]

-
Response Time [ms]

8
MP Schedule

'09.1Q




Every single one of these displays is better than the AUO in luminance and I'd guess viewing angles as well. Since they are all available right now, there's no excuse for Clevo resellers to be using AUO or at least not offering the option of LG. The 15.6" 1080p display looks very nice based on specs.

 

Interesting...The user manual for the NP8760/Clevo W870CU is combined with the W860CU/NP8690 . Cheaper to do I guess. Download it here

 

The laptops are almost identical.


And FYI for the one complaining about the speakers

The M17x has no subwoofer and it absolutely blows the m17/whitebbok out of the water with sound and bass.( not trolling here ) just saying subwoofer pretty much never matter when they are a inch wide

 

Frankly, if you're even a half-baked audiophile or someone who just wants impressive sound, built-in laptop speakers are going to be unimpressive regardless. I'd rather they keep speakers to a minimum in favor of thermal design or a smaller form factor.

 

I need good sounding speakers on a laptop. I hate depending on headphones and I'm not about to lug around external speakers with a notebook. I'll wait for people to get the laptop before I decide if they're good or not but the reviewer's opinion wasn't very positive.

 

This i7 920XM has some potential....


"running the Core i7 920XM at speeds from 2.26 - 3.73 GHz absolutely stable even under full load"

http://www.notebookjournal.de/praxis/intel-core-i7-720qm-820qm-920xm-nkmo-114/2

 

But that is with only 1 core? How far can 2 cores be pushed?

 

looks like clevo's system's i7 extreme can be OCéd (manually, not just auto turbo boost). AW m15X, what were u thinking??

 

wait to see if clevo lets you overclock before bashing AW

 

Based on the google-translated Deutsch review, the W860 can utilize the 920XM's potential for unlocked multis, so I'd have to guess than the W870 would as well. However, iirc, they had to turn off hyper-threading to keep the system stable at the max overclock mentioned above (2.26-3.73ghz).

 

Nothing a little bit of modding can't fix.

 

Nothing a cold communist couldn't fix I suppose.

 

the OC potential has been shown in the notebookjournal review. take a look yourself.

link here: http://translate.google.com/transla...-920xm-nkmo-114&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=

i dont trash AW for fun, because i've been dreaming about owning AW since the M17X for a long long time. you cant imagine just how disappointed i am with the M15X after holding back for so long.

and im equally pissed with Dell for OVERcharging the 920XM and not giving users the unlocked multiplier option for extreme processors. FYI, they charge 890 POUNDS to upgrade from 720QM, whereas kobalt charges 450 Pounds for the same thing.

 

Man I could only wish that I got those kind of money to spend on a laptop...

 

Moo said let's see if they let you OC. Just because the reviewer's unit allows it doesn't mean the mainstream model will. Hopefully Clevo will allow owners of the bigger, beefier NP8760 flex the extra space and cooling. But we won't know till we actually see a production unit.

Considering the similarities between the 8690 and 8760, if the 8760 won't OC BIOS level, then that doesn't bode well for the 8760.

I'm sure something like SetFSB or generic utilities will make their way down the pipe and allow the chips to flex on a software level.

 

Nothing about OC'ing seen on the bios screens in the user manual ='(

(Is that english ? ^^)

 

It could be under the advanced chipset options.

 

Only talking about "Extreme Edition Control", so nothing for 820/720 without SetFSB it seems =/ (if we can find a working PLL, never used it on P55 =o)

 

Well I'll be waiting for that day. When I get mine I'll test around and post results if any.

 

I am seriouslythinking about this laptop. However, I am also leaning towards the HP envy 15. The reason I like the latter is that it's a real laptop with a battery that lasts 7 hours (using extra attachment) as opposed to 1hr. And with an Ati 4830 and i7 720qm (possibly 820qm?) it should be capable of handling photo and video editing pretty much in the same level as sager np 8760 ? And especially if I upgrade to a solid state drive.

What do you think ? For someone that is solely interested in photo&video editing, perhaps some very ligght gaming too, is it worth getting the monster NP 8760 or the new HP envy 15 is more than good enough ?

 

If that's all you are going to do, then by all means the HP Envy is perfect for you.

 

Note that my videos are shot at 1080p with 60fps.
So, how much more powerful would the sager be - with same specs except the graphics ? Say with regards to video rendering. Up to 10% faster ?

And how about the new Dell studio xps16? I kind of ruled it out due to weaker graphics but given it's much chaper, I figure it might present same performance with better specs than the others - say a 820qm and solid state drive. Or is its graphics too weak - ati 4680 1gb - for the type of video clips I'm going to be editing ?

Thx

 

I guaranty setfsb won't work, lol.

 

Yeah, you have to run addFSB.exe on your core i7 first..

 

I thought this video of the W870CU would be good to have in this thread....
Clevo W870CU Video with 920XM Extreme

 

Show me the mobile core i7 that oc's to 3.8 on all 4 cores and I will be sold

 

Can I ask what is addFSB ?

 

I7 doesn`t use FSB.

 

Maybe the SETFSB creator will make a new one called SETBCLK .

 

Oh I'm so stupid, I'm running an OC'ed i5 750 and I'm talking about FSB here -_-"

Though motherboard manufacturers give OC softwares so maybe new soft OC tools will appear for these Clevo's ^^

 

Its possible someone could get a hold of the Intel software.. I believe Gophn had a few apps to crank up the BCLK on the 9280 but im not sure how much or any of that software is available to the public.. My i7 desktop handles everything through the bios so i never bothered to looking into software to handle those tasks..

 

he used some desktop utilitys

 

Interesting report on performance gains with the i7-920XM Extreme over the Core 2 Extreme QX9300...





"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. If you approach Clarksfield realizing its role as a high-performance part best suited in a desktop replacement role, then you won’t be disappointed by the power it uses to beat Intel’s former flagship, the Core 2 Extreme QX9300"...

Much more HERE

 

Those gains are kinda "meh,"..... especially considering HT.

Better? Yes.
Awe inspiring? No.

Coincidentally, the increase in thermal budget (10w) is commiserate with the performance gains realized.

The reports of the noise the NP8760 produces even at idle is not promising at all.

And the screen received poor contrast and bleed scores as the icing on the cake.

 

I still don't know why people think hyper-threading is the best thing since sliced bread. It never was and never will be.


Keep in mind the increase in thermal budget is a near wash because of the lack of a separate northbridge on Clarksfield.

But I agree, definitely not awe inspiring.

 

Because it shows up as 8 cpu's in device manager. HOW COOL IS THAT?! OMG 8 CPU LMAO lol!1!.

 

HT is great for sequential, non predictive work as has been shown over and over for crunching work like rendering/converting. Just about everything else, I agree it isn't that great. For most gaming it is a non issue and in some instances a detriment to performance.

I wasn't a big fan of HT till we started working with coding partition sorts back when the P4 was HT enabled. In the right circumstances, it is wicked.

That is why I take benchmarks like Wprime, Cinbench, etc... with a grain of salt because they are a specific type of computational work that lends itself well to HT.

It's a wash, true, but it still doesn't negate the heat and cooling that, while now centralized, is increased.

 

Where did you see that report on the screen? Does anybody know if there is any difference in screen quality between the W860CU and W870CU?

 

The screen they used in that comparison test was the 1600x900 screen. The 17inch machine is not even offered with that resolution so hopefully the 1920x1080 panel fares better..

 

This is true. I cannot find any info or review for the screens they are actually shipping right now. Hopefully very soon!

 

Yeah i have not seen one comment anywhere on the 1920x1080 panel either.. Guess you will be finding out soon enough though ..