**OFFICIAL W860CU/NP8690 Owners Lounge**

Once you have your system up and running with GPU drivers up to date etc, will you please run the Arma 2 benchmark that is included in the Demo. I am really curious to see how well that performs on that hardware.

 

Update: the two finger scrolling works (similar to a macbook kinda, it is great to have it in windows finally and its easy to set up), however i can't find anywhere to change the speed of scrolling... which sucks bad.

Something that sucks even worse is that when i left click on a window with the button and go to drag it with the finger sense pad (touch pad), the mouse does not move. It will not move until i release the left click. therefore not allowing me to drag windows using the left click. not sure if i am doing something wrong here but it doesn't happen every time and i am stumped.

Update 2: Here's an sentelic finger-sensing pad updated driver (found it on an msi wind forum), it has scroll speed + sensitivity control, and Multitouch works!

EVERYONE UPDATE TO THIS DRIVER ASAP

http://www.mediafire.com/file/eofqimv10zm/FSP_8522_06_STL_WHQL.rar

 

Sorry but that's all I can do for now. 3dMark Vantage results and Windows 7 scores are here - http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5403625&postcount=100 .

 

Huh, how come it says GTX 180m instead of 280m?

 

I don't know. I was going to ask you guys the same thing when I had some more time. Techpowerup gpu-z reported it as a GTX 280M as well as Windows Device Manager. I don't remember how 3dMark listed the NP8662 w/ GTX 260M. Was it accurate on the NP8662?

 

It's just the old name Nvidia had for that card before they renamed it. 3dmark hasn't updated the name. Guys with a GTX 260M would show as GTX 170M. Don't worry about it. It's fine.

 

I think it doesnt recognize it correctly sometimes

 

Thanks for your share BoxCar, +rep!

 

Can you please run vantage without physiX enbaled? Or was that without Physix ?

 

Around 28000 are definitely with physx on.

 

I am lovin my 8690! I've compared the 1080p screen to a

sager 5690
gateway 15.4" (forgot which model)
macbook pro 15.4"

and in my eyes it looks superior to all those screens and is easily the brightest as well. The whites and blacks look great imho.

 

Vanfanel what battery you getting?

 

I have not tried the battery yet. I'll try today after work. I keep my laptop plugged in 90% of the time and running most of the time so battery life was not a concern for me. My last sager 5690 was always plugged in all the time and was on almost 24/7. 5 Years later it's still running! Construction on the 8690 looks even better. The materials of the laptop give it a very sturdy feel.

 

How are the viewing angles?

 

I think the viewing angles are okay but I'd need a better reference point to make a definitive determination. Others that have access to multiple newer lcds may provide a better comparison. If you're planning on doing professional photo work or adjust color balances an external monitor is still your best choice but that's goes with most laptop displays.

I dunno if the lcd they use is the same as the one in your asus. Perhaps it is and perhaps you're more critical about displays than me. I have not seen an RGB LED screen but they are considered one of the best displays for laptops. If you're expecting something close to that I suspect this screen will disappoint you. I've been subjected to crappy screens for a long time so this thing looks beautiful to me

 

Jealous! Hopefully my order status will change to shipped tonight or tomorrow.

 

Still waiting for confirmation of actual delivery dates here in the UK. I'm sooo jealous of you guys who have theirs already.

 

How're the temperatures on the CPU? I've talked to a reseller rep, and it looks like the 80+ CPU temperatures are not usual for the notebook.

And I'm not even going to ask about the GPU temperature, since we all know it's going to be excellent.

 

I basically ran it how I would use it in a real world setting. Listened to mp3's (about 30 minutes) while browsing the web, checked email, watched a few youtube videos...etc I had it on my lap the entire time and it wasn't at all uncomfortable or hot. I was wearing shorts so part of the laptop was resting right on my skin.

70 minutes before it went into hibernation (about 5%)

Some other settings:
-Power saving setting
-turned brightness all the way down
-using a 120GB SSD instead HD

 

do you think the 920xm bios oc option will come to the w860cu/np8690?

 

I played the crysis demo for half an hour. CPU temps maxed at 80 degrees but GPU temps hit 94 degrees. Is that within limits? GPU idles at 43.

 

$20 says no.

 

No, 90 degrees is horrible for a new system. Then again, the fact that you played it on battery is also kind of horrible... Try playing using the AC adapter and check the temps again. Battery life is horrible too, but congrats on your new notebook nonetheless.

 

Agreed. I'm thinking of size and cooling issues in a smaller 15" notebook.

 

Especially a Clevo.

Was he running on battery? I didn't catch him say that. In any case, would running on battery power make the fans spin at a lower RPM?

 

Usually the GPU is limited to 3D desktop speeds when running on battery. It has no effect on the fan speeds.

I don't know where you guys saw that he was running on battery when he achieved those temps. He was plugged in when he was playing games.

 

I don't want to upset anyone but...

That battery life and those temps do not sound good. Moreover, I think the P55 Chipset that is inside will only support the first generation Clarksfield CPUs. The January Arrandale and the spring 32nm Clarksfields use a different, newer chipset because they have integrated graphics. All in all, is still a great laptop, just not that outstanding and this makes me a bit sad .

 

On the upside though, the current bottleneck for most games is the GPU. Which the W860CU will be supportive of an upgrade. The temperature has me concerned as well.

 

No OC option, only on the W870/920XM Combination.

 

The 8690 is amazing. The full hd screen is beautiful. Extremely bright, compared to any laptop ive owned, blows the 8660 (1680x1050) away.

The viewing angle is very impressive.

The heat on this thing is really not bad... I am used to my 8660 with 9800gt and this thing doesn't get hot on the keyboard/trackpad at all. I did go with the ssd this time though.

I have been playing aion (crysis engine) for 2 days on it and its a joy, no heat problems, and not uncomfortable in the slightest.

 

What are your temps playing Aion? Also, don't forget to use Nvidia's desktop color/gama options for the visual quality. Try Digital Vibrance on about 30%, and then check out Aion!

 

Will upgrading my M860TU to the W860CU be worth it in all angles?

Also, is there an official review of this laptop already?

 

I'm currently having problems with my asus G51VX. Anyone recommend the Sager above Asus I may sell this and go get the sager.

 

Sorry, I read it wrong. Cuz I was being retarded, heh... maybe too sleepy. 94 degree is still not a good temperature... But before jumping into conclusions I would rather make sure that he played on a hard surface (and not on the bed) and with power profile on balanced or high performance.

 

I was not running on battery and I was running on a flat table. The laptop itself never got warm at all while playing crysis even though cpuid reported those temps. I then played some older games HL2 and TF2 for a good hour. Those games are less demanding and GPU temps in those cases maxed at 80 degrees. Compared to the other two laptops I have over here this laptop is quite cool. The gateway I have runs hot just by browsing the web for an hour and my other sager makes my legs sweat and also runs very hot. I used to play games on that thing for stretches of 3-5 hours or so with gpu temps over 90 degrees. It also runs almost 24/7. I don't know what the tolerance of the 280 is but that old machine was very durable at 5 years. What is the heat tolerance of the 280? Hopefully this weekend will give me some time to run extended gaming sessions and I'll see what the temps are. I'm not too worried about the temps right now. This thing was meant for hardcore gaming so that's what I'll give it

 

94C GPU/80C CPU is very worrying on a new laptop. You can only expect that to get hotter as dust builds up etc. And that is with the 45W processor, what are temps like with the 55W XM?

Hmm, im not sure I like the sound of that. However I will wait for more reports and info before jumping to conclusions.

 

I expect(that maybe) the settings were not on to preformance, though I am used to a mac, and just getting a windows for the first time in around a year.

 

When plugged in I set it to high performance. I also set the harddrive to never turn off along with a few other power tweaks

 

For a Clevo, those temperatures are a bit troubling. I mean, I have a hot-running G51, and I rarely hit 80 in TF2.

 

I found Ken Lee@Gentechpc got only 69 gpu after the crysis. I think you should contact your vendors about the high temp gpu. 94c is pretty bad.

 

Sorry but Aion is not running on Crysis engine, it's the (1st) Far Cry engine (CryEngine 1)

 

Well this could explain my elevated temps. I popped off the heatsync on the GPU and there didn't appear to be much if any thermal paste.

 

Yeah probably... clean it and add more. A little more. I use the dot method, works for me.This is another reason why I like Clevo's; you can access the heatsinks pretty easily and it doesn't void your warranty.

 

Paste looks a little lacking from here..

 

I'll have to pick up some paste tomorrow but what is the correct method of application? Applying a small dot at the center or spreading it out yourself?

 

Pick what you prefer. I`ve tried both on my M860TU, and the dot method worked best (probably just coincidence though).

 

I put a dot on it, then apply a lot of pressure on it with the heatsink; seems to work fine.

 

Arrandale should be compatible with the PM55, though the IGP will not be used.
The reason I say this is that early indications point to Clarkdale(Arrandale desktop counterpart) working on the P55(desktop counterpart to PM55).
Further, there is no guarantee that the 32nm Clarksfield processors will have an IGP. If for any reason, lack of physical space. From the pictures I've seen of Arrandale, it doesn't look like there is a lot of extra room for 2 more cores + double the cache. Perhaps if they shrink the GPU/Memory controller to 32nm.

 

Where did you buy it?
Don't sellers test or check each laptop before sending them out?
Every place that sells them has AS5 added or already checked off by default(AS5) on the configuration page.
Do they only add it to the CPU? I thought it would be both
Yeah some good thermal compound should do wonders for temps.
While your in there I would check the CPU too.
But think of it this way even with that small amount of thermal compound temps were not at a insane level!
Keep us posted.

 

In general it's optimal to spread the paste in a thin layer. I'm sure the smoosh method will give you adequete cooling, but for the best results try for a nice, even application.

In any case, as long as you cover up most of your GPU you should be fine. I won't bore you with the details, but when my GPU had TIM like this, my temperatures ran to 95C in a two minutes of Furmark.