I get the same problem with bios .16 but I am staying on it. I don't know why it happens but WEI is useless to me so I am not too bothered.
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Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet
WEI is GEI. I disabled that garbage just so that there's one less piece of uselessness on my install. For some reason, people at my school praise WEI. They're so hardcore about it that it's like they're the last soldiers on Iwojima trying to defend their foxhole. Ironically, they're running Vista/Seven mostly on Apple notebooks.
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now thats gay lolz!
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Can anybody Recommend some 8 GB RAM module kit for 8690 with HD 5870 ?
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kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso
Thanks for the confirmation. I don't care about WEI either but I was just wondering why that issue came up suddenly after the BIOS update. Rigor's W860CU's weird, lol. -
Would anyone happen to know which of the USB ports on the 8690 receive the most power and which ones share power with other components on the mobo?
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I was just about ready to pull the trigger on this laptop, but then the 5870 was taken off. Is the GTX 470m really worth waiting for over the 460?
Also, my current laptop has a 9600m that was sort of lousy stock. This fellow made a custom forceware called DOX 180.xx that stripped it of a lot of fat and made it overclock-friendly. Does the 460/470 have something similar for CFW? Is there a lot of potential with overclocking on those cards? -
DOX has since quit making custom forceware since this Spring I believe... ( http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/122-doxs-customized-forceware-releases/). You can find all of his releases at laptopvideo2go.com. You can also find updated .inf files at that website which will further tweak driver releases. I'm not sure if you can accompany the newer .inf files with DOX's last release because I never tried on my old NVIDIA laptop. What the new .inf file accomplishes is that it cuts some bloat from the installation as well as allows drivers to install on newer GPUs. I recommend heading over there and hitting up their forums. I spent a lot of time over there the past few years with my old laptop.
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win32asmguy Moderator Moderator
Woohoo! My W860CU arrived today w/the new Nvidia 460M. I won't get ram until tomorrow but I'll try and do a quick bench once I have it run up and running. Overall, the laptop has a very nice look to it, the photos online definitely do not do it justice. The included carrying case is kinda junky, but I was expecting it since it was free.
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Where did you get the barebones kit? Is RJTech the only provider?
Make sure to update your drivers before benching.
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Just out of curiosity, what is the most up to date stable driver for the 460m?
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kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso
So when will the 470M come out? Would it be the last high-end GPU for the W860CU?
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Nice. I'm waiting on my Sager NP8690-S1. I would have it now but I went ahead and opted for the custom skin at xoticpc. It hit the skinning department on Monday so it shouldn't be much longer!
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Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative
There is no ETA yet for the upcoming 470M...
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kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso
Ok but would it be the last high-end GPU for the W860CU?
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I think it is worth waiting for the 470M, why not get the best you can at the time especially since you have something you can use in the mean time even if the GPU isn't that good. You could purchase one with the 460M now but in a few months you will probably think ''I could have just waited''.
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Unfortunately you'll always think, "I could have just waited," when it comes to hardware.
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Could you post temps too? I'm curious to see a 460M/M5870 comparison.
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Hey guys, I've been using my sager np8690 for a solid two months now, but I've started to get some artifacts on my mouse pointer. It's been glitching out especially after gaming mostly starcraft 2. I haven't overclocked my gpu, but I have underclocked it a few times, but now I just use standard clocks. I do have a 5870m, has anyone else experienced the same? What should I do? I still have warranty for a year, but is it worth sending it in?
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win32asmguy Moderator Moderator
Well, I have my setup about half-way installed, and I have to say I am impressed with performance. Temps are ok, hasn't gone over 80C yet on the processor even when 100% maxed out. GPU is pretty cool at 65C max. I probably could still use the 920 or 940xm, but this will do for now.
I wasn't able to get the 260.63 Beta drivers working on 64-bit Windows 7, however, they worked fine on 32-bit (yes, I did download both respective versions from Nvidia's website for each install). I am using the Sager 259.12's from the drivers cd and the performance is fine so I will stick with them.
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The first thing to do is to run Hardware Monitor as soon as your system starts up. Then play some games and note down the minimum and maximum temperatures.
Your system might need cleaning or your thermal paste may not have been applied properly or your GPU heatsink is not sitting flush and it took a while for the higher temps to be noticeable. If you want to send it in, find out what their quality and turn around times are, note any horror stories etc. -
I'm in the same boat as you. I cannot get 260.63 installed, the only drivers that work for the 460M are the ones that come on the Sager Driver CD. I've tried the official nvidia ones, the installer from laptopvideo2go, edited CFG files, etc. Nothing works.
Either I get that the OS version is not supported (W7 x64), or that the driver is not supported.
The other weird thing is that I cannot get Microsoft to detect the card on its own and install a default driver. I only get the Standard VGA Graphics Adapter and it's unable to detect it as a 460M which I've heard is one of the hurdles in getting the nVidia driver installer to work.
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win32asmguy Moderator Moderator
If those drivers work with the 460M in the G73JW, then it should work with ours as well. Hopefully they will go out of beta once the 470M is released and then we will have official support. I am not even sure I had a "complete" 260.63 driver installed when I was on 32-bit Win7. I actually installed 259.12 at first, then updated to 260.63. The device manager said everything was installed ok, but Win7 (even Aero) was laggy and games seemed like they were not hardware accelerated. -
It doesn't mean that because they work with the 460M in the G73JW that they will work in the Sager because occasionally there are problems with hardware id's. This has happened before with the W860CU where some people with the exact same model could not install any drivers apart from the ones that came with their CD. The only way to correct this is to wait for Nvidia to sort it out or to use a modded .inf that has been edited specifically to include your missing hardware id.
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laptopvideo2go.com may have a modified .inf file that enables that 260.xx driver to be acknowledged on our systems. I'd recommend checking that out.
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there is a problem with those video
the person never put pressure onto the middle of the cpu, putting pressure on the sides of the plastic make it bend adding gaps and then bubbles in the middle
but it fits the misplaced screws in real use anyway
there other things to take into account regarding the method of spreading the thermal paste:
the pressure between the heatsink and the core is negative in working condition because the laptop is turned upside down (the heatsink tends to fall away of the cpu/gpu due to the gravitation because the mobo in the laptop is turned upside down)
that's why I usually add a spring or something acting like a spring to increase the pressure between the heatsink and the cpu/gpu
another thing is the thermal paste itself, the viscosity and the mix of the thermal paste make it spread differently like mud doesn't react like water in the flood
etc
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Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet
The mass of the heatsink is not as significant in notebooks compared to high end coolers on desktops. Because the amount of leverage on a full size tower heatsink is much greater, it is susceptible to motion and shock and can warp the motherboard, rip off of the mount, and potentially damage other components, etc. This is why enthusiasts in that field do not recommend leaving the heatsink on when transporting the tower to a LAN or other destination. Most desktop rigs are vertical setups so the heatsink is perpendicular to gravity. This is a worse scenario compared to our little "upside down" heatsinks since the center of gravity is much farther away from the CPU and the mount. Of course, high tension from the brackets make up for that. But the potential for loss in cooling performance, if not damage, is still greater in desktops than in notebooks if they are transported with the heatsink. I've worked on several notebooks, including the latest Clevo notebooks, from a diverse range of clients all around my local region and each notebook that I have opened has a different story to tell. In none of them have I found any evidence of the thermal paste being rendered less effective from gravity pulling down on the heatsinks with or without the assist of force from transport. Perhaps if a notebook is dropped on a hard surface with enough force then that would reduce the pressure between the component and the heatsink enough to negatively affect the current mount of the paste, but then again I would be more concerned about other damage at that point.
The thermal paste already acts as a form of adhesive between the die and the sink to prevent the two from coming apart during motion. This is what the GPU heatsink on the W8x0CU primarily uses, and with the addition of the adhesive properties of the thermal pads. The bolts on the CPU heatsink are just a bonus.
Between the two extremes of high and low viscosity, the result will still be the same when spread over the whole die. Excess will come out of the sides. As to how much comes out, or if any at all, is to be figured out by trial and error over time. Though with higher viscosity pastes for notebook application, spreading is a must while low viscosity pastes can do with a dot/line method just fine. However, in the end it is all about technique. http://forum.notebookreview.com/6709478-post173.html
For example, lets take the most extreme case, my modded W870CU. My CPU and GPU heatsinks are the heaviest on this forum weighing almost double if not more than that of a factory W870CU CPU and GPU heatsink. The amount of mass on them is almost to say clumsy and unorthodox as they are pulling against their respective components and mounting screws. Yet, to this day I have still to encounter evidence of the thermal paste being shifted, air bubbles forming, or any kind of anomaly resulting from inadequate or inconsistent pressure from the heatsink that would result in less than optimal cooling performance. The same goes for my old M570TU and that notebook had a boatload of mass added to the existing heatsinks as well. Both of my notebooks were transported frequently on the notorious San Francisco Muni, my occasional sprints to class, in the boot of my C6, and in other medians of transportation that have put my notebooks through the rollercoaster and back. -
SF Bay Area represent!
On a more relative note - you always have such informative posts Soviet. I've definitely learned some valuable stuff from you over the last few years.
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kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso
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Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet
I forgot about my older posts on viscosity. Here is a good read.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/465339-applying-shin-etsu.html
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hey all, I've just registered with this forum, however i've been following it for over a year now... anyway i have a couple of questions about the w860cu (i hope i'm posting in the right thread/section).
well i have a few problems with my vga driver. It often fails and restarts namely whilst watching a flash video online. Flash version is 10. Do you know were I can get the latest drivers for it and bios? (I downloaded the one from the bios thread, off the sager site, however the iso file is empty?)
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oh my, its the hd5870 :$ i haven't figured out how to make the sig yet hehe
umm rest of the specs are
core i7-620m
ocz 60gb LE ssd
4gb ram
win7 x64bit pro
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In that case, check your GPU temps while under load.
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Does anyone else have an intermittent problem with the wireless card not initializing/being recognized when booting their laptop? One out of every 4 boots I will have to reboot because the wireless card was not recognized and initialized.
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I am about making a decision on the Sager NP8690 (Built on Clevo W860CU)
i will like to know if
1. switchable graphics option is switched on by default
2. The current nvidia drivers are compatible with the GTX460M that comes with this notebook
3. Where do i get a reliable reseller who can ship within 3 days @ competitive prices?
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ive never encountered this issue myself or in the forums
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I don't think there is "switchable graphics" within the W860CU; it only has one graphics unit.
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Let's say I wanted to upgrade to 8GB RAM--what kind of RAM am I looking for?
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Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet
RAM consisting of two sticks of 4GB each?
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To further elaborate on the classic Soviet response, ANY name brand DDR3 dual kit will do just fine.
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Hi!
My W860CU shuts off every now and then.
From one second to the other it's off.
No high workload, no high temps, no new drivers installed lately.
Any idea what could cause this?
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kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso
First thing comes to mind are your temps. Did you check with monitoring software like HWMonitor? Are you hearing any beeping sound when you boot up your laptop (this could be a sign of heatsinks not in good contact with CPU/GPU). Have you tried reseating your RAM? -
Hello all, first post here!
I was wondering if it'd be possible to flash the W860CU EC with the one for the W870CU. Apparently, both models have the same motherboard and roughly the same interfaces.
The reason behind this question is that I'm trying to get the best off of my W860CU/i7 940XM but when I set the multiplier too high (x21 or more, on 4 cores - thanks Throttlestop!), the laptop just shuts down after a few seconds of wPrime.
It doesn't seem to be heat related (T < 80°C), nor PSU related (tests carried out with a Targus 180W).
So, maybe it's the BIOS restricting the amount of power fed to the CPU, and I was wondering if the W870CU wouldn't be a bit more "generous" here.
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The Revelator Notebook Prophet
That's what ThrottleStop is for. Set Turbo Power Limits to 75W, 68A. That will give you enough juice to support 22x across the board or more (8.5sec+/- in wPrime). You can take it up from there as you desire, but carefully.
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Yup, Throttlestop is really a great tool! But my motherboard seems to shut down the laptop when too much power goes to the CPU, hence my question about the W870CU EC.
If anyone has a positive experience with this, please let me know!
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A few of us, including myself flashed the W870CU Bios to our W860CU with no problems but your issue might be related to the AC adapter wattage. Maybe you need a higher one than the standard 120 Watt.
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kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso
I think he stated in his previous post that he used a Targus 180W adapter.
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The Revelator Notebook Prophet
And even the 120W adapter is more than adequate for the o/c levels he's talking about for wPrime since the GPU is only drawing idle power. The 120W will actually support 25x; 26x is dicey, but sometimes doable for those that engage in such foolishness. I don't recommend it.
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where did you get you 180w psu?
is your 940xm an es or oem?
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