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Some good news, I managed to get a successful repaste with liquid ultra. I was chasing 40 multipliers for all cores loaded during h265 encoding with no throttling. After testing the die with a thin layer of ic diamond to check coverage after a test mount I could see the heatsink showed a uniform coverage.
I believe there were no significant gaps so I then proceeded to spread a thin layer of liquid ultra on both die n heat sink. Remounted and tested, temps went down at least 5 degrees from best ic diamond testing.
I then used manual vcore instead of adaptive. After much bsod and reboots I settled at 1.120v stable instead of the auto 1.15xxv and power sits about 77w fully loaded. Temps stay below throttling during 35mins of encoding.
I manged to get the world record XTU score of 1046 for a 4910mq on hwbot so that was a bonus
What I obeserved during testing were the fans have an additional speed increase that doesn't kick in until after the cpu has been throttling for a min. You van hear the fan increase after that and the temps drop to below throttling. This was on auto fans.
It's been 14 degrees ambient here so summer will still be an issue. I've ordered another heatsink, a bottom cover n more liquid ultra. Hopefully I'll get a better heatsink n will mod the air intakes on the bottom cover, hoping for a 10 degrees drop or more to carry me over summer temps.

 

Nothing needed. 880Ms do not perform correctly in SLI however, and you may experience terrible throttling WITHOUT heat or power being an issue.

You should always use max fans under heavy workloads like that. But if you were able to fully render without throttling while on max fans with an OC, you've done pretty well.

 

I don't use max fans for the 4G oc as I want temps to remain below throttling in case I forget to turn them on
I managed to complete xtu benchmarks at 4.1 n 4.2G though a bit concerned on the W n amps drawn. 4.3G wanted more than 140 amps n power was over 100W. If I wanted to game with that would need to use dual psu.

 

No, XTU uses more than normal programs do. Try running HWiNFO64 in sensor mode and playing something like BF4 with unlocked FPS or running a livestream. You likely won't pass ~65W draw on the whole package. Should have enough for the system + the two 980Ms at ~100W to run, easily.

 

Next item on my agenda once I sort out cpu temps will be flashing modded 980m vbios then start oc those. Will def use dual psu then.
Still not happy with 4G oc for 24/7 use. My cpu maxes at 4.3G on all cores loaded but these temps are hard to keep down. I miss the 3 pipe heatsink on my AW18 r1 so much.

 

You can buy the P370EM CPU and slave GPU heatsink for a 3-pipe CPU heatsink at the cost of some cooling power lost on the slave GPU. That however, is not a problem, as 980Ms are cool as heck.

Also, word of warning: 980Ms draw *MUCH* more power when OC'd than 780Ms. At stock, they're fine, but OC'd they can blow out a 600W adapter setup well before they crash due to lack of voltage or throttle for heat.

 

I was considering getting the p370em cpu and slave gou heatsinks but was wary of 10 degree increase in temps on the slave gpu.
I just added a thermal pad to the top edge of the cpu heatsink so when the bottom cover is closed it will touch the copper plate that's on the back of the bottom cover. So far I can't tell if it's lowered the cpu temps at all but I noticed the slave gpu now seems to have higher temps than the master gpu.

Previous to this the slave gpu has always been 2 degrees cooler than the master at idle/loaded.

 

no no no no no no do not do that what are you doing why are you dissipating heat through that? If you can't use Liquid Ultra, the best thing is the EM heatsinks. 680Ms worked fine in the P370EM and the 980Ms are cooler than 680Ms even when OC'd. You will be fine using that heatsink combo; the slave GPU doesn't get extremely hot. Again, you could simply use max fans when gaming or anything. Please note: keeping the system on max fans 24/7 doesn't do anything bad. I did that with my D900F for years and it was fine, and I did it for ages with this machine and it's still fine.

 

I am using liquid ultra that's how I managed to get 4G stable. Was looking at ways to lose a few degrees from the cpu and saw this copper plate not doing anything apart from reinforcing the bottom cover. I think I've hit the limits on this cpu heatsink. So next move is to get another bottom cover and cut bigger holes for the cpu and gpus with a mesh that allows more heat flow and get another cpu heatsink and hope it works better than my existing one.
If there's a more powerful fan that could fit I would welcome that as well

 

has anyone used the CM Storm Cooler Master SF-19 cooler. I'm looking to keep this thing as cool as possible but still OC with MSI afterburner.

 

No wonder you got 4GHz stable during stress tests with auto fans. Your temps are all right for that. Believe me though when I say the best thing is those EM heatsinks. Haswell is hotter than Ivy Bridge and the triple heatsink was designed for ivy bridge. It's actually a bit of poor design on Clevo's part to keep the dual-pipe heatsink with the 980Ms being released which are so cool.

 

With the fin area being so small another heatpipe would just eat more fin area and I don't think it would help.

 

huh? The EM heatsinks have less fin area for the slave GPU to help the CPU have more cooling area. It's about a 10 degree transfer. CPU's 10 deg cooler, GPU's 10 deg hotter or so. It's not great for 780Ms but it's fine for maxwell, which runs cooler OC'd than stock 780Ms.

 

Can anyone please answer the above? Think it got lost among some recent posts. Thank you.

 

1 - I think so, but I cannot be sure.
2 - yes.

 

The SM single heatsink I mean, it would not benefit from a 3rd heatpipe to the same heatsink fin array.

 

Yeah. I know that. But none of those exist either. Where did you get the idea for that? XD

 

I'd like to also say I'm curious about this too.

I was thinking about getting an ROG Swift to pair with this machine, should I buy it, and if anyone has used the Swift with this laptop successfully it would be a huge boon to my peace of mind.

Also, from all my research, this laptop should be able to drive the Oculus Rift from the HDMI port just fine. Again, for peace of mind's sake I want to see if anyone's actually done it.

Thanks for any answers in advance!

 

After some MORE research, I'm pretty sure that the Thunderbolt port on the P377SM is Thunderbolt 1, which means Displayport 1.1a, which means it doesn't have the bandwidth to support 144hz at 1440p. Which means getting an ROG Swift would be a waste, or even not work at all, as it only supports DP 1.2 input.

Darn. =/

Would love to be proven wrong on this.

 

Eurocom claims it's DP 1.2, but it IS a thunderbolt 1 port. There's no way of knowing really. Feel free to send me a ROG Swift monitor and I'll hook it up and try using it though =3

 

Maybe. Keep an eye on your mailbox ;P

 

LOL. I'd be so beyond surprised if a ROG swift showed up one day with no strings attached. Then I'd probably go play something with gsync turned on.

 

Need some advise again, which OS should I use? I'll be using the laptop for gaming 90% of the time. I hear a lot of people recommend win7 since benchmarks on it are higher hence better performance.
I also hear win8.1 since it's now optimized better for newer games. I'm worried about SLI comparability and driver availability.

Here's my setup:
i7-4810mq
32gb hyperx ram
2x512gb m550 ssd raid0
Dual gtx980 sli
Intel wifi/bt combo

TIA!

 

Either is fine and I really dont think you'll see any gaming difference between the two. I'd go with 8.1 since Microsoft will support it longer, they just stopped mainstream support for 7 a couple days ago.
If you went with 7 I'd assume you'd go with the Home version like most people and that only supports up to 16GB RAM. With your 32GB you'd need Pro or Ultimate.

 

There should be no real driver differences between the two.

I have no idea why any gamer would use a non-professional version of the OS. The stuff that's removed for the "home" versions is just annoying sometimes.

 

Home is fine for most people. The stuff that's removed is just some more advanced networking features and security such as VPN, Bitlocker, etc... Anybody that's trying to decide can reference the wiki page to see clearcut the differences. Most people I talk to are perfectly fine with home as they're not making use of anything the other versions offer. Everyone is different in their usage.

 

BLASPHEMY AND STUFF. Still though, for any power user, home premium is a blight on humanity.

 

For people who use Windows to navigate Internet and do basic stuff the Home version is more then enough.. But for gaming one needs to go for Pro

 

Power Users Yes, most gamers or those buying these aren't exactly what I'd call power users though

I personally buy the top tier of any OS I get because the thought of being limited doesn't sit well with me, even though I make no use of any of the features.

 

Heres a chart I found (not made by us) showing the differences, you can decide for yourself what you would take advantage of

 

That's not all; there's lots of options in gpedit and secpol.msc and such that are inaccessible on "home premium" or "basic" versions of windows. I had a serious annoyance with that in the past. Did not realize Win 7 Ultimate had that many differences over pro, however. I remember Vista had a large number of widely known differences, but most of Vista Ultimate's "extras" were removed from 7 entirely, but I got Win 7 Ult back in the day on principle. Also, there's no mention of VMWare support on that list either, which as far as I know home Premium doesn't support.

 

This is the Wiki page I was referencing. As far as I'm aware it's pretty complete.

 

You are absolutely right that is not all. And if you (the customer) is familiar with what those are then you'll already know you need more then Home Premium.

But for the OP

Hope will probably be fine.

 

I have both win7ultimate and win8 pro. Was leaning toward win7 but sounds like I'll be using win8 pro instead. Some review results were saying benchmarks were generally faster with win7 but fps was better gaming-wise with win8 so wanted your guys opinion and experience with this specific laptop considering sli(I honestly have no experience with SLI, had crossfire ages ago).

As far as ssd setup, I'm planning to install the Win8 pro on a 512gb sata ssd, then install games/programs on a different drive in raid0 (2x 512gb mSATA ssd). Is there a more efficient/better performance setup with the SSDs I currently have?

 

The overhead from RAID doesn't help too much in 4K read/write for SSDs. You could get a 512GB mSATA for your OS, then use a 1TB M550 or 850 Pro etc for regular gaming storage etc. These machines have lots of nice options and one good SSD is about as good as two smaller ones while still saving on available slots.

 

Games should load a little faster on a raid set if they shift a lot of large assets but it won't be a huge difference. Getting a larger single drive is probably better so you can add more later if you want.

 

Hi everyone, I bought a HyperX Cloud Gaming Headset, it doesn't come with any software.

As everyone has the same computer in this thread I figure some of you have probably headsets. I can't figure out how to set them up.

Between Realtek and Sound blaster X-fi3 and whatever else is involved I'm not sure what settings should be made.

I only use them for gaming if that helps so if anyone has and advice on the proper way to set them up let me know.

Thanks for any advice. (PS Ive never owned a computer headset before)

 

Plug it into the main headphone jack and in the realtek audio manager make sure you are set to stereo. It should work fine with that but you can play with the sound settings and equaliser to give them the sound you like best if you like.

 

Thanks, do you know how I can get Sound blaster X-fi3 to realize there's a headset plugged in?

 

I cant install the newest nvidia driver for the 980m??? anyone have the fix for this im stuck on 344.91 what came on the drivers disc. the error message says it cant recognize the hardware

 

That's a known issue with the 347.09. I'm not sure why they haven't fixed it yet. Seems like sometimes they come out with several updates a month and other times it can be a month between updates. I'm less excited about any updates because they seem to break as many things as they fix. Unfortunately some newer games may require an update to work properly.

I'm using that same one you are, 344.91 and have had good luck with them so far (no issues).

 

I am a new P337SM-A owner now. Specs are
i-7 4810MQ
Dual 980M GTX SLI
16GB RAm
Samsung 840 SSD 250GB
1TB 7200HDD

 

Congrats! See if you can get the new 850 instead.

 

I will. Also, FYI, Derek and Josh did an amazing job on my laptop order.

 

Awesome, Derek is on here and hopefully will see this, Josh isn't really though so I will tell him you said that.

If you got a mSATA SSD then there are just the 840 available at this time. The 850 are just available currently on 2.5" SSD.

 

Congrats! Its the best laptop on the planet
(IMO of course)

 

Just saw your sig, you have all storage slots filled. How many sata iii ports does the np9377 have? I'm aware of the 2 msata and the 2 2.5" bays but what about the optical drive bay and the esata port?
I tried running a spare vertex 3 from the esata but found it's running at sata ii speeds so just wanted to confirm.

 

When a man likes a post so hard he breaks the forum limit...

 

The chipset supports 4 max, so the others are SATA II.

 

EDIT:

Does this help? (Not sure if it does or not)


Not the last drive in that list (bottom left) is an external backup drive