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Actually I found out that the error that I was running into as far as the black screen had to deal with more of an EA issue/directX issue instead of hardware. It seems like all the hardware I got is working in decent shape albeit a little warm. Though it'll definitely take a little while for me to iron out all the software wrinkles.

I believe I had it on performance to begin with just with the fans running at max...now I'm letting them do their thing and just keeping my room cooler. Thanks for the help though.

 

If the temps are too high for you, you can use EVGA's Precision X tool to set the frame rate target to 60 FPS... since most games are maxed out on these cards, everything over 60 frames is just adding heat. I dropped like 9C under load doing that.

 

I always do this on my desktop 780ti's, if I don't turn on vsync I will go up to 180 fps and my cards will go nuts.

 

I hate vsync.

Cap your FPS to 59FPS and use fullscreenizer to make your windowed game a fullscreen borderless window. Less work for the GPU than vsync and no frame tearing.

 

Yea me too, I usually cap it through riva tuner but sometimes I get tearing if I don't use in game vsync even with that

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That's why I combine it with borderless window mode. Most games perform better with the frame limiter and borderless windowed mode than they do in full screen with vsync.

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Does SLI work in windowed mode? I remember when I had crossfire the second card was disabled if you used windowed mode.

 

Yeah SLI works great in windowed mode, Crossfire just sucks.

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Clevo BIOS limits the JEDEC to 1866Mhz , the Mod allows up to 2667Mhz (as long as chipset, RAM and CPU are capable of running it).

 

Good to know. But I'm assuming this RAM will run at 1866 and have to be adjusted, correct?

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Yep...2133Mhz RAM also runs at 1866Mhz without the Mod.

 

I might look into some higher clocked RAM chips for this machine but I might have more problems since I'm running 4 sticks so maybe it's not worth it

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I may be able to make the system run 2133Mhz/2400Mhz RAM natively, but would need some HX321LS11IBK2/16 for testing or at least a dump...

 

My P370SM can run 2133MHz ram overclocked to 2400MHz, so I don't see why the P377SM-A wouldn't be able to, assuming the chips and the IMC were capable enough.

@Ethrem: I'm dying to get rid of some HyperX 1866 ram, I'll sell it to you for cheap

 

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I thought all the processors offered on the NP9377 were only capable of 1333 or 1600.

 

1600 is the rated speed but they almost always will go higher than that.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2014/may/ddr3l_memory_speed_on_haswell_mobile

 

It is overclocking but the option is there.

 

Got my 4940MX to run @ 4GHz using XTU... then went and fired up a game and the adapter shut off to protect itself (along with my machine shutting off as well). This was my second adapter so I don't think either is bad, I just think this machine really does take THAT much power with stock GPUs and a 4GHz extreme chip.

I guess I'm going to have to spend the 70 bucks on the adapter. Might as well get it now because later on down the line when the graphics start falling behind, I'll inevitably end up modding the machine to squeeze more performance out of everything and I've now tripped each adapter. Tripped one when I was playing with a modded vbios, now I tripped the second one overclocking the CPU in XTU with stock vbios.

 

I suppose it may be the higher wall voltage allowing for greater efficiency in the uk and getting away with overclocking mildly on a single adapter.

 

Hmm that's slightly surprising. Did you monitor what kind of power the 4940MX was drawing at 4GHz?

 

Hi ethrem thanks for help and also I wanted to stat some thing when I was skimming the mythlogic I saw your model p377sm with the option to get an additional AC adaptor and a power converter box and here is the thread https://www.mythlogic.com/configure.php?id=160
check the video accessories

 

Bone Stock fresh out of the box with 332.60 drivers:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i3/i5/i7 4xxx,Notebook P377SM-A

 

Not too far off from me out of the box. Much better graphics score...

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8350184

As for the power I don't have a meter but my CPU won't go to 4GHz without 95A for the current limit so it's a rather significant boost in power consumption and not an atypical boost for power hungry MX chips as hwbot has 105A results for 4GHz

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Nice, well, I'm glad they're operating as they should be, then.

I haven't checked for throttling yet, but I plan to check up on that. I'm thinking that with a weaker processor maybe I can reach higher temps and power draw on the 880M's.

And by the way, the textured top panel feels great on my wrists.

 

4910MQ is not that much weaker than a 4940MX. In fact, I would have gladly gotten that processor instead of the MX had I known how much of a limitation this system is for an MX chip. But yea, it does have a 10W lower TDP than the MX chip does so it should function better at similar clock speeds.

But yeah, its throttling out of the box (954MHz core versus the boost clock of 993MHz) but that's normal behavior and you shouldn't notice it in games.

Can you do some runs with fans on max and HWMonitor and tell me what your cards are going up to? I'm just trying to see if I should repaste one last time on my second card or if I've done it well enough that its no longer necessary.

Congrats on your machine!

Here you can see the difference between the MX and the MQ: http://ark.intel.com/compare/78940,78939

And Intel kind of lies about the MX... it won't do 4GHz unless it has a single core load out of the box which pretty much never happens.

 

Thanks man! Yeah, let me run it through Furmark.

 

Don't forget the FN+1 key combo to max the fans first. The temperature shouldn't pass 87C with stock settings but if you max out the fans, there will be temp difference between primary and secondary, I'm just curious what that is. My secondary will max around 87C while the primary maxes at 80C and sometimes less (I've seen one at 87C, the other at 76C even). Just curious about your performance.

Be careful with Furmark by the way. Its fine with the stock vbios because it throttles the cards but don't do it for too long and make absolutely sure that if you mod the vbios, you never run it. Its a well known card killer and doesn't need core temps to kill cards.

 

Dude, I'm getting MAD throttling in Furmark. 600 MHz clock on one GPU, 900 in the other. Temps reach about 85C on both cards.

This is with fans not tinkered with.

The fan button doesn't seem to be present in HWinfo64. Looking into it.

Edit: Just saw your post, hahaha!

 

It throttles in Furmark because Furmark burns up the cards fast... That's normal behavior. There are many dead cards thanks to Furmark in the past so nVidia codes all of their vbioses to throttle in Furmark. Even with the modded vbios, I didn't hit max core and then Johnksss said not to use it so I stopped altogether.

 

Well, same thing with Fn+1, and I actually ran the test for longer this time. 84C on the primary, 79C on the secondary was the max temps reached.

 

I remember reading something about that somewhere.

 

Its extremely unlikely with short runs and damn near impossible with a stock vbios since Fermi but yeah, I believe one of my 260Ms got a bit of a fry from Furmark. It will randomly show a dimmed display with pink lines when in Windows lol.

 

My old GTS 360M would hit 100C, which is when I knew it was time to repaste. But I had that laptop for years, and it never died or slowed down or artifacted. It was a great card.

 

To be fair, my 260Ms got a great run... especially since I'd get drunk and put the M17x on my mattress where it couldn't pull air in through the intakes lmao. That laptop flew off the bed a few times, was subjected to its vents being covered... My M17xR1 was (and still is, I still have it) a tank.

 

So my 880M SLI, they both boosted pretty much the entire time during an hour-long Bioshock Infinite run, 993 MHz. The temps reached 81C and 77C max with fan on full blast via Fn+1 (thanks Ethrem, I never would have figured that out).

So all in all, I'm pretty happy. Temps are good, no throttling, 120 FPS on Ultra... sweet.

 

Nice man, sounds like you actually got a nice stock paste job, our temps are pretty similar now that I repasted.

Bioshock is so creepy with the 880s, its crazy realistic. I output it to my TV and it just sucks me right in.

Glad to hear that things are well! They are extremely good machines, just not great for benchmarks.

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Hmmm... Your GPUs are boosting the whole time? Are you sure about that?

I just did an hour run and they definitely weren't boosting the whole time although the frame rate was generally over 120 (at times over 200) - are you using vsync? The cards actually got a pretty good workout...

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They actually got some pretty heavy throttling, particularly the slave card, although the temps remained low and the frame rate was quite high. The fans weren't on max as I can't stand the noise but they were at their fan level right before max so the temperature difference wouldn't likely have been much different.

Do you have vsync turned on or do you otherwise have frame limiting enabled?

I can tell you right now that if the cards were boosting all of the time, the temp on the second card would be beyond 90C which is why it throttled so much. I think the stock vbios aggressively throttles the cards to keep the fans from pushing max speeds, which is fine for games right now, but might not be so fine in future games.

I find it fascinating that Bioshock actually utilizes the cards more than Watch Dogs does... The average of 95% utilization was a surprise for me as Watch Dogs with 4xTXAA has an 85% load on the slave card and 80% on the master.

 

You are hitting the power limits and the card is reigning in the clocks. Seems normal to me. GK104 at 900 mhz is pretty good.

 

To be honest I just had MSI Afterburner running and when I quit the game, I looked at it. The max temps were 81C and 77C, and I only saw two one-second dips from 993 MHz to 954 MHz. It looks like it records the last 5-10 minutes. I'll get me a fancy log viewer to really take a long look soon.

I'm using Adaptive Vysnc. If I can't get 120 FPS, I'll settle for whatever my rig can give me. But I certainly don't need more than 120. In fact, I could likely do just fine at 60 FPS.

Sub-60 FPS is where I start to look for ways to boost my performance.

 

I played for twenty minutes, and also turned anisotropic filtering to 8X in Nvidia Control panel. For some reason GPU-Z did not record both cards. But as you can see, most of the time the card was at 993 MHz.

http://i.imgur.com/uumERPv.jpg

 

What's your vBIOS version?
(it's shown in GPU-z)

 

With GPU-Z, you have to run two instances of the app then in the drop-down box, select the second card then check the box to log to file.

It does look like yours was throttling less but looking at them in statistic mode makes it harder to see the dips than in the normal timeline mode but regardless, you're boosting most of the time so something in your system is drastically different from mine with regards to cooling performance. 20 minutes @ 74... I wish! I hit 80C at 4 minutes in! I even have my laptop elevated by two pill bottle caps in the back and a 21C ambient temperature with low humidity and can't manage that.

I have a feeling that adaptive vsync is what is making the difference though, I'm going to go do a 20 minute run with it and I'll post back with my findings.

 

I will put up some graphs after I finish up work tomorrow

 

Indeed, adaptive vsync made a huge difference. I didn't throttle at all on either GPU, in fact.

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So for that game, you can avoid throttling by turning on adaptive vsync in the nvidia control panel (I assume it would be similar using the in-game vsync option although that lags a lot while this didn't really seem to do so) but it won't be that way for games that don't exceed 120FPS like Watch Dogs, for example.

My temps maxed at 72C for the primary, 77C for the secondary.

It is kind of surprising that there was absolutely zero throttling though.



As you can see, I'm using stock clocks and an unmodified vbios.

 

I dunno how to delete the attachment, so it's staying!

 

Anyone else having trouble getting the webcams to work? I've downloaded and installed the drivers from Sager, but they still do not work.

Edit: Nevermind, Fn+F10 is my friend.

 

Yes turning it on helps

you do have a different bios version.

 

Lol don't feel bad, I did the same thing XD