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I think I'm just in warranty going to check when I get home, I hope so otherwise that's gonna be some expensive replacement

Can anyone tell me which I the slave card?

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Alright, cool.

I appreciate the help man! I'll be sure to post again when I get it done. xD

 

I would definitely look into seeing if Eurocom has it. They will charge quite a bit for it, but it will be brand new and it will be exactly what it is supposed to be. It's quite likely they have it, they have a ridiculous amount of stock of pretty much any Clevo-related item/part.

 

Works fine, weird thing is that if I go back to the clevo drivers which are 14.3 I think everything is fine, any other driver and its like there is a line right across the dead centre of the screen with distortion

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Maybe just one of the GPUs is dying then, considering that you don't have the issue when you're not using BOTH. Either way, don't let the warranty run out!

You could try using DDU to remove all traces of drivers before reinstalling the latest drivers - only ever used it for NVidia drivers, but memory tells me they do AMD too.

 

You could try swapping the cards and reseating the Xfire cable and giving them a re-paste.

 

Fallout 4 Performance Report!

I am happy to announce that Fallout 4 runs well AT LAUNCH (for once) on Sager NP9377! I am playing with ULTRA settings except God Rays on medium and get constant 60 FPS. However, 1 caveat:

SLI currently does not work! Hoping this is enabled at some point.

GPU usage ranges from approximately 50%-93% depending on the area (inside or outside, day or night). Temperature on the GPU hasn't gone above 71 to 75 Celsius in over 1 hour of playing.

Conclusion: Even left to one GTX 980M Fallout 4 runs well AT LAUNCH.

Anyone think SLI will get enabled later on though?

Cheers!

EDIT: I raised the approximate average GPU usage and temperatures after playing a little more. Still running well. Had to disable SLI entirely though.

 

Done exactly that today, so both cards swapped over, exactly the same issue, it seems to only effect the bottom half of the screen

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How are you moving from driver to driver? Clean installs or over the top?

 

Remove, reboot, and install, I used a driver cleaner but it didn't find much. It's definitely hardware, its noe showing on even the stock drivers, back to PC specialist I think

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Hopefully it's just the xfire cable or similar.

 

I'm about to blow a gasket... Came in to watch Hulu, it wouldn't load so I rebooted... BSOD System_Thread_Exception_Not_Handled... Wouldn't boot into safe mode or anything... Had to refresh my PC in order to fix it. Not that I had a lot of apps on there but really? That's also a new BSOD for me, I haven't seen it before and I find it odd that it happened when I haven't installed any new apps or updates.

 

Welcome to windows... had this happen to me loads of times. No new apps and suddenly windows doesn't load... I think it is Microsoft trolling us xD

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Well that's lovely... It was ntoskrnl.exe and ntkrnlmp.exe that triggered the crashes. That would generally be a voltage issue except that after the first crash the system reset the CPU to its defaults and it did it again so I have no idea.

 

Did an optimized reset in the BIOS and left the CSM option off after it just did it to me again... Let's see if it continues. I'm running everything stock but I forgot that CSM can be glitchy. I don't know why it chose just now to glitch though. Maybe I should just go to Windows 10 and get on with it...

 

Looks like it's Windows Nvidia driver related, and it caused system corruption, which took out your system - did you try booting on Windows installer and use Repair PC?

Try disabling streaming - or don't install GeForce package (or 3D Vision) - disable / don't install anything you don't use.

 

It was ntoskrnl.exe, nothing to do with nVidia. Ntoskrnl.exe is literally the NT Kernel. It doesn't get worse than than kind of a crash... In fact when I did the refresh, I hadn't even installed nVidia drivers again, only Intel Rapid Storage and it was ntoskrnl.exe that wrecked it again. I don't know what caused it to suddenly go unstable but if I continue to have issues I'll run memtest86 on it. If I end up with another RMA, I'm going to lose it.

 

Could be one of your shutdowns / crashes / power corrupted the disk.

That kernel error is what I see when I don't do a chkdsk after a few crashes when tuning - which can get ugly pretty quick. These days I do a chkdsk after every unplanned shutdown - even if it comes up at first and says it's ok and you don't need to scan, I still scan - and often it tells me to Repair - and I reboot repair immediately.

If you are running write-back cache in RST that increases the risk of corruption from a crash.

I was just playing with 4.2ghz again, and had a series of crashes while pushing things, and ended up turning off write-back cache, I got tired of the constant Repair reboots

Hopefully it's only disk corruptions

 

Considering it did it after a refresh, which is basically a full OS reinstall without losing customizations, I can assure you it isn't disk corruption.

 

One of the most thing that tempted me to live with Windows 10 is not having to deal with CSM and its slower boot or its random issues like the one you mentioned. Pure UEFI FTW

 

You did install over the same partition - you didn't reformat the drive and remake the partition if you preserved customizations - you might check the disk or better Run a Repair Computer booted from the Install USB/DVD - and if you are running a RAID0 run the Intel volume verification from the RST app.

 

0 errors on iRST. I think it's just a stupid random windows error. I hadn't installed a single system update since I got the original install fixed that Sager botched so I'm installing all updates and then removing the 10 and telemetry updates with my batch script.

 

Wow chkdsk was sure fast... No errors either.

 

I've had that happen to me once before @Ethrem ... Not sure but yeah random Windows ****...

 

They can happen, windows is far from perfect

 

Same can be said for Clevo's CSM...

 

Care to share that batch script ?

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Extract, right-click and run as administrator, wait for it to finish (it has a welcome and an end message only otherwise you would be inundated with Windows confirming every package) then when it's done, reboot.

https://www.mediafire.com/?04jazlk4y5ap8pr

You can find that and a whole lot more info on avoiding Microsoft pushing Windows 10 and blocking their spying here

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-windows-10-upgrade-disable-telemetry.780476/

 

Has anyone tested a full size 980 in there clevo yet? Thinking about upgrading from a single 980m.

 

Won't work, the card is too big. There's a chance for a regular MXM card but it hasn't appeared yet.

 

Yes no extra room at all for a larger PCB.

 

Hey all, does anyone know if I remove the primary GPU will the machine boot and run just of the secondary or does it simply look at the first GPU ?

Trying to work out if my 2nd GPU port is dead before I shell out $100 on a new crossfire cable

Both cards work fine off the first port but half the screen artifacts when crossfire enabled no matter what card is in what bay

Literally can't be arsed stripping it down again if there is no benefit to doing so

Cheers

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I've never tried it but I would bet that it wouldn't POST.

 

Yeah that's what I'm thinking, might just give it a crack tomorrow see what's what

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I don't know if Clevo bothers with the second slot if it doesn't sense a video card in the primary slot. I don't even think that the display would re-route to the second card because of how the bus is set up?

 

Probably not to be honest,

I'll plump up and buy a replacement crossfire cable and hopefully it might be the problem

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http://rjtech.com/shop/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30172

I would contact them and see if the cable works in the SM-A as well (I don't see why it wouldn't, the SM-A is a minor refresh of the SM and its in the parts section for the P377SM-A as well). Save some bucks.

 

I did contact them but shipping was crazy, I asked them to query the shipping costs to the UK and they said $88 is standard which is hard to believe but hey who am I to argue

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Ouch! Well nevermind then. Maybe @Meaker or @XMG can give you a suggestion? Its crazy how expensive these parts are...

 

Open to any ideas guys, thanks for the suggestions btw

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No problem. Us SM-A owners are becoming fewer and fewer, we have to help each other out lol. Everyone is moving to ZM and DM machines

 

I literally priced one up the other day, can't remotely justify the cost though, if I can get crossfire sorted this will do me till middle of next year

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Yeah I can't even begin to think about a new machine. As it is my living situation changed to the point where I'm not even sure if I'm going to be able to have any spending money unless I go on a ramen noodle diet... Lol.

 

You know, I think my fan control is whack... Whenever I fire up a game, the GPU fans kick up just a bit (like maybe 20-30%) and temps quickly rise up to the 80s and the fans don't go any higher but when I saw that, I forced max fans and it dropped all the way down to 66C - and that was playing Witcher 3 maxed out (including Hairworks and HBAO+) on a single GPU! I wish there was a way to manually control the fans... if I could get them to run at the 80% they used to run at with 880Ms, I would be thrilled... forced max fans is stupid loud, you can hear it all through the basement :/

 

Courier shipping to the UK is about that expensive yes.

 

How difficult would it be to upgrade my NP9377 from its current single 980M to dual 980M?

I bought my set in the US and have since moved overseas. There's a local Clevo reseller where I am at now that sells that P377-SM as a local variant and offers the upgrade on other Clevo machines but reading up on the process, involving vbios flashing and what not, makes me rather uncomfortable to have it done by someone other than Sager.

I've done some reading that, on the other hand, says that since the NP9377 natively support 980m, its just a plug and play.

 

The SM-A supports it natively... even on an old system BIOS version it will say unknown for the GPU. It still works fine. The SM-A series has true MXM support... as long as its a Clevo card, it will work.

 

Yeah, it should be somewhat easy to install. Just make sure that it comes with the appropriate heatsink as well, but I believe most Clevo sellers will include that already.

 

What do you mean by "unknown for the GPU"? What would it take to get the second card recognized then? I'd really rather not meddle in vBIOS and what not and am hoping for a simple install and then reboot into SLI glory

 

The bios can read the GPU as "unknown" but still interface with the card just fine.