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What's it dropping to under load? If it's not dropping much you got a seriously good 4940MX and I dislike you

 

Don't undo any XTU changes that are working for you, just the voltage offset. Don't worry about the stock VID, RealBench doesn't take long to run anyway, start at -105 and see where you end up being stable. My guess is between -80 and -90.

 

I will test it, I'll play witcher 3 for a bit then check

 

Don't bother with gaming right away, RealBench will crash faster than a game. Just start with the offset at -105 which should pretty much crash right away (if it doesn't that's a really good sign) then inch down by 5mv until you can make it through a 3x RealBench loop then you can either just add 5mv to that to ensure stability or you can keep what ends up being RealBench stable and go about using your machine. Just keep in mind that instability can pop up any time so if you're on the edge of stability you could crash doing something less intensive than gaming so my personal recommendation is to add that 5mv.

 

OK.. highest temp on a core 71 (only played for 5 min though) cpu core speed dropped to 36911Hz (from 3991) got that program down, I'll run it and do what you said BRB

 

To be clear I have XTU set -85 undervolt.. should I reset to normal before using this program to -110 undervolt?

 

running stress test now

 

wow this is some scary stuff lol never stressed system like this before, so far cpu lowest drop 3592Hz temp per core all 90+ lol and I am moving in slow mo doing stuff while test is going (on computer that is)

 

OK I was at -85 (sorry I had already started before changing it) it passed. is there a report or something I can show you to see what I should change? I have not closed program yet?

 

OK for what its worth, here is the last screenshot I took..



Note I forgot I still had Witcher 3 running minimized and my photo editor running.. so that may be why anything looks bad.. at top of screen, shows temp, current cpu hz etc..

 

Those temps are too high... Max fans and everything?

 

I let the computer auto handle the fans (I don't have hotkey or control center or whatever its called) installed. The fans just kick on when ever they decide to..

I ran it again.. here is screenshot at 14 min mark (out off the 15 min run)


This time without anything running but desktop stuff.

maybe I should install latest hotkey stuff after all for fan control? If so do you have link to latest? Though I have to say unless they drastically improved it, it may not be worth it as that caused allot of issues with other programs...

On a side note.. nothing... not a game or program has EVER stressed my computer the way this program has, nothing has even come close!!

 

Just use FN+1 to force max fans, no need for Hotkey.

And yes, this app is designed to do exactly that. Your temps are a bit high, see what max fans does. I don't pass 90C on that test.

 

That is FN + 1 (not F1) in case like a lot of people your brain adds that F in.

 

How many people here have upgraded their p377sm-a laptop screens to 4k such as Darcoder did with his?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/p377sma-4k-display-upgrade-waiting-for-parts-to-test.786555/

 

Not a lot aarpcard give a try but he didnt have luck with unlucky damage
anyway i instal 2 980m and its running 4k at 60fps with nvidia experience. some high setting with normal mixture. looks great

Anyway, someone know if this is a good score? Seem low to me... i just added 2 gtx 980m
3Dmarkt11: 15857
Fire strike: 11332

 

Gents!

Looking for a little advice. I’m the happy owner of a P375SM-A equipped with a 4910MQ, 2 x 980M and a 120 Hz screen. I really like the screen, but when I’m gaming at home, I would love to have a bigger screen than the 17-inch. Therefore I’m considering buying an external monitor. I have decided on going for a 27-inch 1440p monitor. Questions:

1) As far as I know the P375SM-A supports DisplayPort 1.2 over the Thunderbolt port. That should give me resolution and frame rate support up to 1440p at 144 Hz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort. Agree?

2) On Nvidia’s homepage http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-980m/specifications it says that my 980M’s should support G-SYNC. Thing is, I have heard of people having trouble making it work on the P37XSM-A. Anyone knows whether it works or not?

3) If G-SYNC actually works with the P37XSM-A - is it worth going for?

4) I play simracing games, meaning response time is important to me. That again means I will be going for a monitor with a TN panel instead of an IPS panel, as I need a response time of 1-2 ms. In addition, I hope that the 2 x 980M’s are capable of giving me 60+ FPS in 1440p, why I will be going for a 144 Hz monitor. Can anybody recommend a good “value-for-money” monitor meeting those specifications? I know such a monitor won’t come cheap as such, but I have given up on ASUS ROG, simply too expensive.

Any thoughts appreciated - thx in advance!

/Morten

 

Hi there, I tried the ROG and it was a disaster. I am sure there is something wrong with the DP on this model. Others had the same experience - as soon as I connected it the laptop hung on a black screen with no signal to the monitor. Unplug and wait it eventually returns .

I sent it back and got it replaced along with a new cable. Same. Then a brainwave (well more of Doh! moment). Plugged it into the Alienware R4 (way older machine) and it worked great. The only thing I discovered is that it did not support g-sync at 144hz, only 60hz and 120hz.

I gave up at that point so I can't advise on what does work but hopefully other owners will chime in...

Good luck.

 

Is our NP9377-S compatible with 1080m or 1070m?

 

The new clevo cards don't seem to be the same form factor as eg. 980m. But rumour is that MSI has 1070/1080 cards that could fit and then it's about bios support. But there is no confirmation about this yet.. if we asked nicely maybe @Prema could spare a second of his valuable time and visit the oldies but goldies forum

Edit: oh damn, I forgot about the heatsinks.. will they align and are they enough to cool pascals

 

Hi Micky,

Thx for sharing your experiences They are as I feared. Maybe I should just consider a monitor without G-SYNC unless someone comes forward with a positive story.

 

1) Agreed, although I only tested 1080p at 144 Hz and it worked fine.

2) There's more requirements than that for havinig G-SYNC work, afaik.

3) In my opinion, with your specs? No? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't G-SYNC basically only useful if you have frame rate drops? With 2 980ms in SLI, I don't think you're going to be having any FPS drops any time soon..

4) As far as I know, there aren't any 1440p 144Hz 1-2MS TN panels. There MAY be one or two 1440p 144Hz 1-2MS IPS panels out there, but don't quote me on that. Even if there is, I don't expect them to come cheap like you may want. 1440p 144Hz is pretty rare I believe.

 

Thx for weighing in

2) Do you know where I can read more about the requirements?

3) True, but one of the games I play most (iRacing) has horrible SLI support (as in just about zero SLI support ). Still, a single 980M does a fine job for now, but if I can "future-proof" my monitor investment as much as possible, it would be great.

4) There are a couple (5-10) TN panels with those specs. However, only a few with GSYNC support, and they are the priciest of course. Optimal would be for me to have a shop lertting me test my laptop with the monitor first, pretty easy to bring the laptop. However, not many shops have these monitors on in-house storage and I doubt they would like to open up the packaging for me.

Anyway, it seems to me that no one really has made a GSYNC monitor work with the P37XSM-A, so maybe I should just go for a "normal" monitor

 

2) Not sure, but I THINK you need a G-Sync compatible motherboard (or was it monitor) as well as G-Sync compatible GPU, and G-Sync compatible BIOS. I'm not sure because I've never used G-Sync and I'm not really interested in it.

4) Really? I'd be interested in seeing them, do you think you could list the model numbers?

 

Hi guys do you think tha the pascal cards will be compatible with ours laptops?
Or we have to buy new ones??
Thanks mates

 

Likely will have to buy new ones if you want Pascal. However, I'd suggest waiting until the next generation or later as Pascal isn't enough of an upgrade to justify buying a new laptop IMO.

 

It depends on what you want to run resolution and frame rate wise, but the 9xx machines are still perfectly capable of course.

For the 680m/780m/880m crowd they are a massive upgrade

 

2) Fair enough - I'm also slowly giving up on G-SYNC

4) Have made a list below. This is the screens available in Denmark, all are 144 Hz, 1 ms and TN:
- ASUS PB277Q ("only" 75 Hz)
- ASUS MG278Q
- BenQ XL2730Z
- AOC Gaming AGON series AG271QX
- Dell S2716DG
- Zowie XL Series XL2730
- ASUS ROG SWIFT PG278Q

 

Good luck with it, as long as you check out the supplier returns policy for hidden charges like restocking or return shipping, then try one out. I even did this with an M17x and an M18x (good old dell, no quibble returns policy) so I could do side-by-side. I returned the 18 but that's another story .

I can say the swift failed for me (twice) so maybe g-sync is not possible on this model? It's very confusing as for a g-sync panel there are a bunch of requirements like card, vbios, bios, and an NV approved panel. I was told that an external g-sync monitor should just work with any NV GPU though?? I do know it worked perfectly on my R4/680m and I would have thought that if there was some incompatibility then g-sync would just not work, not hang the pc completely?

 

Any external g-sync panelwhen you have a direct display port input to the dedicated gpu should work.

The thunderbolt chip gets in the way if this I believe.

 

Thanks for that confirmation, much appreciated. Something sure gets in the way, the model went EOL before I could see if something was being done to fix it .

 

Thx for helping out guys, great to have somewhere to discuss questions like this Based on your comments I finally binned the idea of a G-SYNC monitor. I still wanted a monitor though - and as cheap as possible with 1440p, 144 Hz and 1 ms - so I ended up ordering the ASUS MG278Q yesterday.

It's Freesync and not cheap, but it's cheaper than a G-SYNC monitor with similar specs. Really didn't see any reason to pay the extra amount for G-SYNC...and in a couple of years, when my P375SM-A needs to be replaced it wouldn't surprise me if G-SYNC somehow has become irrelevant or NVIDIA has begun supporting Freesync etc. Painful experience has taught me that future-proofing your setup more than 1 or 2 years into the future requires more technical insight than I have

 

I'm late to this party, but I bought this laptop with dual 980m's at the beginning of this year. I love this laptop, but I found out like a lot of people too late that it doesn't support Gsync.

After a lot of research, they are correct in the fact that Thunderbolt that's built into this laptop doesn't support it, it's too early in the generation and doesn't have the throughput to meet the bandwidth requirements that the Gsync spec needs.

However, when I game on this laptop, I have found that 1080p @ 144hz is supported. You have to force it in the Nvidia Control panel, but it does work and it looks great. I have played lots of Doom and it looks very smooth with it.

 

You are clocking the output a little but that should not be an issue. G-sync is not a bandwidth issue but a communication protocol and what is connected where issue

 

Can I put one of these mxm cards I the laptop reviewed in the video in my p377?

 

No. Different design and the graphics have a power connection as well. None of the older Clevo models who used Maxwell, can be upgraded with 1070/1080 graphics.

 

so I'm stuck with the best being 980m in sli?

 

Yeah

 

For now it looks that way, who knows what the future will bring however.

 

will any E gpu options with thunderbolt connections bew supported by the laptop?

 

Picked up an Acer XB271HU. It's a G-SYNC 144Hz 1440p IPS monitor.

When I hook it up to my Sager via DP, I get "no signal" on the monitor, and the Sager freezes with a black screen.

When I hook it up to my Sager via HDMI, it works fine, though I am limited to 60Hz.

When I hook it up to my HP Spectre via DP, it works just fine (not that the Intel graphics can drive it past 60Hz).

Any idea what's going on here? I've tried multiple miniDP-to-DP cables, rebooting with the DP plugged in... not sure what else to try.

Just to be clear: I know this Sager can't do G-SYNC, but the only way I saw to get 144Hz + IPS + 1440p was to get this overpowered G-SYNC monitor. I should be able to just use this monitor without G-SYNC, no?

 

Hi, sorry to say you (we) are SOL. There is a bug in the thunderbolt SW/FW that causes exactly the symptoms you describe when trying a g-sync capable monitor on the DP.

I had the same problem with a Swift ROG, worked fine in my AW...

 

bump

 

Hello again everyone, what are the latest Nvidia drivers you guys are using (stable) with this laptop with 980's in SLI?

I'm currently using 365.19 they are OK but there have been better ones.

Edit: For what its worth allot of people seem to like 368.81 over the new 372.90 which seems to be causing allot of people issues (newest driver) No idea what this means for this laptop in SLI but I'm inclined to try the 368.81 ones over the new ones.

I know these Nvidia drivers are picky as hell (especially with this laptop and SLI) and installing the wrong driver can cause BSOD (when viewing the dumps with blue screen view program to see what the cause was)

It sucks we have to be the ones that figure out if Nvidia drives work well or not, you would think as big as Nvidia is, they would simply put out drivers that work other then only being able to use one out of every 6-7 versions they put out

 

Sadly the focus on older chips does fade very quickly historically for the green team. This is part of the reason I want to see a red resurgence.

 

Thanks for the info; I was wondering if I just got a bad unit.

Returned the Acer Predator for a BenQ 2411Z, and didn't realize it only supports 144Hz over dual-link DVI... and apparently this Apple passive adapter doesn't cut it. Also, the DP-to-HDMI adapter I'd been using to run 4k @ 60FPS on my Vizio just died last night. FML.

Gonna return again for something with DP, no G-SYNC, that can do 144Hz. Any suggestions? Looking at the 27" 1440p BenQ that's basically a big version of the 2411Z with DP.

Only IPS options seem to be ridiculously expensive (I am aware of the irony of saying that in a thread for owners of $4k notebooks ) and/or include G-SYNC.

I'm on the latest non-beta driver, 372.90. Haven't had any issues so far, and I updated as soon as it was released.

 

Can't help with any advice. I sent the first ROG back thinking I had a bad unit then others here confirmed the problem .

That 27" benQ looks good. All that 'dual link', 'active adapter', 'DP specs', etc, stuff gets me confused. I was told that the DP IS dual-link DVI with audio at the underlying technology of the socket.?

Those active adapters were expensive when I looked around ...

 

So what are the latest Nvidia drivers you guys are using?

 

Hi 1o5fzi,

I went through a lot of the same thoughts as you seem to have, but as MickyD1234 shared his G-Sync experiences I decided to go for the cheapest 27-inch 1440p, 144Hz, 1ms monitor. Needless to say it was a Freesync TN monitor, but I don't have so high requirements to viewing angles etc. and I had given up on G-Sync. I ended up with the ASUS MG278Q monitor and it works just fine over DP

 

As soon as you crank the resolution or refresh rate up you will need an active adapter and the costs do go up for that.