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Wait is almost over, I show that your 9570 should be hitting our doors today. So should have you out by end of week ideally!

 

One more long weekend to go without it. Robert has it at Phase 5. Are the memory slots filled under the keyboard first or under back panel(16g)? The two things that really have me excited are the calibrated screen and the SSD. Start up time should be very quick compared to what I am used to and I expect a really vibrant experience from the 90% screen. Thanks again for all your help.

 

Sager will actually install that under the keyboard by default since they're harder to reach for most people. And you're very welcome! Glad to help.

 

I'd say the slot under the CPU heatsink would be the hardest to reach personally.

 

Now that I watched the tear down I see that the paste would need to be reapplied. Thought that the heat sink could stay and just remove the left most fan to access system memory. Nope.

 

I found the keyboard a little tricky to get the small ribbon secured with the locking clip. After I did it a few times it became easier, but the first few the little locking clip went flying! I was lucky twice that I found it, lol.

 

You should see inside an acer i have, it has a dozen little clips on it :/ so it gave me plenty of practise with the things.

 

wasn't that the design of p270? i guess it didn't change much for p570wm except went from tri channel memory to quad?

 

You mean x7200 I guess, mostly not.

 

we need this, 16gb module SODIMM
AnandTech | I'M Intelligent Memory to release 16GB Unregistered DDR3 Modules

 

Unfortunately the Intel cpus don't support 16GB due to an uncorrectable issue with the imc.

 

wth intel, whats imc lol and when will it be supported?

 

Integrated memory controller, and like I said, intel have stated it's an uncorrectable hardware issue, so it wont be sorted.

 

then how does desktop get support for up to 128gb? this issue is only for so-dimm?

 

No this applies to all intel CPUs except for a couple of low power media chips. The 4930k supports up to 64GB (8x8).

 

ah right 8x8. then I guess its no good for mobile, its gonna stay 32gb even after ddr4 comes in. how about server, they have got 32gb sticks mm

 

It will have to suffice. I can proudly proclaim that I am an owner of a NP9570! I like it a lot. It has such power and speed. I also so that it is now on back order. Haha. I knew that what happen when people started getting their tax refunds here in the states.

 

Once ddr4 launches intel will have fixed those generation of cpus to allow more.

 

except that it wont happen until late 2015 or 2016 lol

 

It may be fixed in the refresh, we will have to wait and see.

 

Is it me, or does the 9570 have some of the worst audio of any laptop I have ever bought when it comes to power output? Is there something I need to configure differently? With headphones on, and volume turned all the way up it is about as loud as I might set my TV. Man, I grew up in the 70's and I like my Classic Rock... LOUD!

 

Unfortunately the only way to get them louder is with a USB sound card, or getting external speakers.

 

maybe clevo will fix that soon in the future release with x99 and haswel E LOL

 

Make sure the audio control panel is set to stereo when you plug in headphones.

 

i just realized the pcie 2.0 lanes are from chipset which is also sharing the same maximum bandwidth with USB 2.0, 3.0, Ethernet and SATA. my R2 storage mod maxed out at 1450MB/s read, i'd assume write performance is even slower. only way to get more than that is to use pcie 3.0 lanes that runs off the CPU itself which is usually used by GPUs. this is the dead end can't even have three SSDs in raid 0 for maximum performance when used with something else =/

 

I hope so, they have made slight improvements over the last couple years but still need few steps more to get there.

 

any reseller knows how the pcie 2.0 lanes are split on x79 for clevo p570wm mobo? Intel® X79 Express Chipset

total of 40 lanes I'd assume two x 16 lanes are for dual GPUs that leaves 8 lanes. are the 8 lanes used for anything for p570wm? I'd like to think everything else is probably connected to the x79 chipset and that 8 lanes kinda wasted.

 

Actually each gpu gets 2.0 8x. Quite a few lanes are not routed since only tri gpu needs high levels of bandwidth and it would make routing the motherboard even more difficult and expensive.

 

with current DMI at 2.0 x 4 and minus overhead which is roughly 80% it comes down to 1.6GB/s and thats between chipset and CPU and 1.6 will be shared between all sata ports, usb ports, esata, audio, Ethernet.. I just realized haswell E's chipset x99 will still be DMI 2.0 x 4 I was hoping a x 8 lanes though.

at this point it looks like as long as theres no sata express we won't see x8 lanes DMI or DMI 3.0 x4.

 

No reason to with the amount of connectivity going on, at least for the number of ports on a notebook, there might be edge cases on the desktop.

 

sucks for having 4-6 sata 6GBPS port but can never reach true speed LOL. i laughed hard at the idea of M.2 and NGFF SSD for broadwell 9 series chipset. having just one of those takes away half the bandwidth DMI throws and receives from the CPU. intel is really pushing their CPU hard, I can see why they want thunderbolt to take over USB because it runs directly from CPU pcie 3.0 lanes instead of chipset.

 

I wonder how long the chipset will last.

 

you mean as it's life on the mobo? or the chipset thing as a whole before replaced by a single CPU?

 

I mean until there is no chipset yes and it's a separate die on the CPU package.

 

probably not happen lol chipset is such a strong selling point from intel they won't get rid of it.

 

Guess we now see how many folks buy the new 880M non maxwell setup now. Since the new listing is up on some of the reseller sites.

 

maybe they are keeping maxwell for a 885m perhaps, which is what I am hoping some drastic power reduction. having dual AC adapter kinda suck just to OC CPU + GPUs. 880m would go so much better in clevo than AW too the heatsink design for clevo has a copper pipe direct heat from vram to radiator unlike AW's primary GPU heatsink got none of that.

@Meaker, does clevo look at this forum at all?

 

That may help because the 880m's are really hot. And it's not the gpu kicking out the most heat either.

But AW doesn't need a dual psu unless your numbers chasing. You can over clock pretty high with out worry of shutting off.

 

i know for a fact that sometimes games are even more intensive on the GPU than benchmark softwares. i know for a fact that window WEI test are pretty stressful at peak and it threw my xps m2010 cpu off and throttled it and not even throttlestop's Pi test could throw it off. with maxwell using less power, or more power efficient no longer need to worry about not enough power having computer might shut down etc.. longer battery is an awesome thing too.

 

Yeah, I can't buy into that. LOL

 

watch movie for 8 years on battery is awesome lol, well this is something will not happen on this machine for sure though.

 

LOL JOHN i mean to say 8 hrs

 

Hi, I was going to go either Alienware 18 or Clevo 570WM. Made up my mind to get the Clevo. I want one with dual 780Ms though, not 880M, figure I'd wait till the Maxwell refresh comes out. Does anyone know if you can still order one with 780M?

 

If you don't have the 780M already then you may as well wait and get the 880m maxwell version. Ppl saying the things about 880m are targetting ppl who already have a 780m. I mean if you have the cash to get 2 780s, then you may as well go ahead and just get 1 880m. Afterall, nvidia has been messing up on the SLI lately. Why combine vram with sli with 2 cards when you can do it with just the one? If you still want the 2 cards then you will have to wait for the refreshed models. I doubt you want the other old old versions with just 1 card slot that they have up now.

 

thing is 880m is not maxwell version lol. unless they are doing 880m which makes little sense to me. anyway wccftect has x99 chipset out in as early as June? and news for 880m to 850m are all out. if we see any laptop refresh for this one, it'll be in sept, late this year, or early next year.

too bad with the dmi 2.0 still at x4 lanes I may or may not get one.. no ddr4, no sata express and no faster dmi 3.0 and no maxwell 885m. just a hotter CPU in the laptop box LOL

 

Yes the 780M are still available to order.

 

Yeah, I know. It is still better than the 780M though if one doesn't already have a 780M.
He also has a choice of getting a eurocom panther if he doesn't want to wait.

 

Well over the portable systems you get 2 cores and a CPU that is not going to throttle even under massive load and with 2 power bricks more than enough room for those who like to play.

 

i'd like to use this for tiny server and encode videos from time to time, weekly. now I do not know if haswell E will come with VRM or not, i am hoping not. with VRM out of the way, take out iGP then we'll have a CPU may run as cool as ivy-E with more cores, i'd like to see that. btw, for p570wm which one is the primary GPU? the one closer to CPU or the one further away?

 

The one on the side edge.