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clevo a Taiwan company so theres still hope for x99

 

What does being in Taiwan have anything to do with it? Or do you mean since ASRock, Asus, Gigabyte, and MSI are all based in Taiwan, Clevo could just hop over to their R&D department and snag an engineering board to reverse engineer?

 

What kind of software do you folks use for overclocking the 880m/780ms? I'm about to try out prema's mod This laptop preforms just fantastic at stock settings, I couldn't seem to get windows 8 to run properly with games though. Windows 7 is no problem!

 

I see the ASIC quality of my 880m's are 85.6% and 81.4% Is this relatively high?

 

in taiwan, just higher chance lol

 

The number does not really mean much.

 

If the upgraded version of the P570WM3/P570WM has an improved cooling system then do you think it's possible to upgrade the 5960 CPU to 4.0Ghhz on all 8 cores?

 

Is that the code name for the upgrade of P570WM/P570WM3?

 

The np9570 has been now been discontinued, when it's gone it's gone. 20 pieces left at sager.

This is the last of the line, no x99 chipset machine

 

Sad day.

 

Wow...and the M18X is not even officially imported in my country...

 

So, does this mean the P570WM3 is effectively discontinued and the fact no successor has been announced to feature a X99 chipset won't happen?

 

We'll have to wait for Clevo/Sager to say officially before anything is in fact official, but no replacement announced as of yet.

 

Maybe when the new 900/Haswell E get released then there will be an official word? Can't see any other release that would warrant an upgrade.

The official Clevo site is dead these days.

Btw, where can I read that this model is now discontinued?

 

Do you a have a link where we can read upon this?

 

No since it came from Donald who asked me to pass it on.

 

OK, thanks.

Donald, is a staff member here or a colleague?

 

The news came from Sager directly to resellers as a headup, so where you can read up on it is pretty much the quoted posts above essentially. It was confirmed with Sager that they are going to be out of units likely by end of week based on the rate of sales for them.

 

Didn't realize these monsters were so popular. And now at least I have a legitimate reason to build an X79 setup

 

Kind of crazy they discontinued this machine. Didn't expect that. Thought for sure there would be a refresh. I wonder if they found that they couldn't keep Haswell-E cool?

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Thanks for the update.

 

I doubt it, nor likely a demand issue and development costs.

 

@ unityole, seriously man are you must have posted your intention to "WAIT" now about a hundred times...(exaggeration), but there will always be something better to look at in the future. Just makes me shake my head every time I read it again....imo

 

yea man. now i gotta hold off till skylake its getting pretty long and sad. tbh i donno if i can hold off for that long can feel the delay more and more. but then again, why wouldnt you wait and purchase something much better knowing its coming so soon..

maybe its time to buy few barebone if they are still available from ebay and just customize it slowly. RIP p570wm

 

In my limited oc'ing experience, the limiting factor seems to be the voltage. That is to say there is a sweet spot for each tenth of a gig increase, and it is not easy to find. I agree also that the quality of the chip is at play, I only have the 600 watt package which might be limiting in some way. I have been stable at 4.8 ghz now for some time. I did not detail it as of yet, but I did add a small heat spreader and miniature fan mod above the north bridge chip that is normally under the stock heats sink. This has limited crashes when I am pushing the system. It might be possible to get to 5 ghz with some of the fan mods I saw in n=1's posts, those are pretty nice. Also I am sure I can go to 5.2 ghz when winter rolls around.


UPDATE: I was not able to reformat those two 840pro drives so I RMA'ed them. Two Samsung 840 pro's RMA'ed, no questions asked, super good service (after I got the right department on the phone); from time of dispatching them to returned to my door was 5 days. I am very very impressed with that kind of service, and yes that is what I expect when I pay a premium. Honestly I think they got over-volted some how. But from now on I will just keep one drive for hot plug ocing and the other two for working on projects. that way I don't have to restore my os and data from back-up if something goes wrong.

 

Dang it... I was wanting to buy one of these bad boys (probably won't have the cash until sometime after the first of the year). I wonder if they can still be purchased directly from Clevo by consumers? I don't really care if it is branded to be a Sager. If I had the cash now I would order one with all branding removed anyway. The way things are headed, brand no longer means anything. Horsepower is *almost* the only thing that matters now, and Alienware seems to have a new agenda of catering to panty-waisted sissy-boys and little girls that like thin and light "efficient" garbage. Superior build quality and amazing warranty without face-melting performance is worthless to me, so I don't expect that I will doing the cha-cha-cha with ET much longer.

If Clevo is going to stop manufacturing this beast it will be a truly sad day unless they release a new model with X99, SLI and desktop CPU with more than 4 cores. If not, then I am probably throwing in the towel on high performance laptops. Nothing about the NP9377-S impresses me, and there's no way I am going to settle on a pathetic single MXM performance option. I don't care how powerful the GPU is, having more than one of the most powerful GPU money can buy is always better. And, quad-core CPUs (desktop or mobile) just aren't cutting it for me any more... even the mobile Extreme flavor is no longer good enough.

Any news on whether or not Falcon Northwest or Eurocom are going to continue offering it under their own badge? Even if they do, that's gonna blow chunks because they already emasculate their customers on pricing. With no competition they'll probably jack the prices even more.

 

I feel really fortunate that I was able to purchase my p570wm before it becomes a legend of the past I'm very surprised that they are discontinuing it though! wow..

 

go for real performance desktop type. Spark S9T | SSI Portable. these guys got barebone at 2250 a piece. customize inside how you like, but will at least need their mobo to make it fit.

im still hesitant about getting p570wm barebone from ebay 1700 is just too expensive for no real performance gain, it'll be good for collection though but that'll be another story.

@takeo, 850 evo is coming around 3dvnand 30+nm great endurance and performance, gotta give that a try. heard a 1TB vnand stacker single memory chip is coming 2017-2018. could possibly have 6-10TB in a single 2.5" SSD LOL

 

I'm waiting for the day 1TB SSDs drop to the price of 250GB models now.

 

Just wait for the nightmare that is certain to follow if you need replacement parts for a discontinued relic. I am worried about the same thing with the M18xR2, but there might be a few more spare parts floating around. Time to start hoarding spare components as backup for machines that still work great today. These monsters will probably be able to kick the teeth out of the pathetic ( but efficient) garbage that will be rolling down the mediocrity turnpike for several years.

Maybe we should start investing in solder. With all of the disposable BGA-mounted feces they are sure to be churning out, it may become a precious metal. " Nothing says 'I love you' like <del>diamonds</del> solder." LOL!

 

Clevo/sager will keep a body of spare parts for replacements.

 

any clue as to why they discontinue it? i mean it make sense for this particular machine but unless they dont make enough then they should totally continue similar thing, with x99 and haswell E.

 

Hi,

Do you mean to say you're doubful if an update will be released because of development costs and lack of demand?

Sorry, just clarifying as you didn't quote anyone.

 

I sent Clevo an e-mail to find out.

 

I hope it is good news. If Sager doesn't want to continue offering it that won't matter if it can be purchased through another channel. It actually could work out nicely if we can get a barebones option at wholesale prices directly from Clevo. We can get anything that mounts in a bay, socket or slot somewhere else if we need to. Looking forward to hearing what you find out. I think I am going to send them an email also.

I'd normally encourage people to pound them with emails expressing a desire to see the product continued, but based on the overwhelming lack of initiative I have seen too times on important issues, where all that needed to be done was log in and click a "promote" button at Dell IdeaStorm, I won't even bother making such an appeal. It's way too easy for the masses to whine and moan about things and do nothing to affect change. Unfortunately, we see that in other areas of life as well.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing ." - Edmund Burke

Edit: message sent...

 

Clevo doesn't sell direct to consumers, but if you just want a barebones RJTech is an option (although a bit overpriced). Could also try other Clevo reseller/builders such as ProStar and Eurocom, as well as smaller boutiques.

 

I don't really care where it comes from. I guess the question at this point is whether or not Sager is merely making a business decision to drop the product from its model lineup, or if Clevo is no longer going to manufacture it, period. I cannot tell from reading the information in this thread which is the case. I guess we will find out once Clevo responds to me and/or Penchaud.

 

The chassis has been in use for quite some time and did initially take a while to be developed and come out from when its predecessor stopped being produced. I'd be willing to venture a similar situation will occur where they are merely developing a new chassis for use over the next several years. I doubt it'll be gone forever as far as a system using desktop CPU, but as far as this particular chassis revision looks like it's donezo.

 

I'll be there to let everyone know if I get a reply.

In the meantime can ya'all give me your thoughts on my current system?

 

looking forward to the reply

 

I just love this machine!
just what i needed for a long time.
enjoying every second.
worth every dime.
+ I don't have those throttle issues with the 880M's a lot of people have.
11 out of 10 for my needs.

 

660w will do that

 

+ Prema Mod
Divine Love.

 

what have i missed during the war here?

 

Greetings folks, I had a question regarding a hard drive swap. Currently, I own an older X7200/7280 Sager, and I'm looking to pick up the P570 by the end of the year. Can I use my main drive from my 7280 so as to avoid reinstalling and transferring...everything? Had a chat with tech support about this, but they kept mentioning the GPU and CPU for some odd reason, so that was a dead end; any guidance would be very much appreciated, thanks!

 

You will need to put the bios in legacy boot mode, windows will need to update the drivers. It should work but there is always a chance it won't so a backup first just in case never hurts.

 

Awesome, thanks for the assistance. Out of curiosity, what are some of the common reasons that it may not work?

 

Check out the Clevo website. Under the P570WM3 there's a link called "test". I wonder if this is supposed to the inclusion of a new system?

 

I received my Corsair AX1200i today, and I am actually pretty shocked at how compact it is. It's about the same length as the 330W PSU, and only slightly more than twice as thick. Yes, a 1200W PSU that's just a bit over twice the size of Clevo's Delta/Flextronics 330W PSU. Is there any reason why laptop PSUs have a much worse size/wattage ratio? Something to do with laptop PSUs only being passively cooled?

 

Check the spec sheet for any power transistor for that answer. Each has an active and passive performance level.

I guess with Haswell-e now out we have a reason for the discontinuation.