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Just heard from a European reseller, apparently the P570WM type is no longer on the roadmap, and is unlikely to be updated. After 3 days of searching and sending e-mails, I'm pretty sure it's no longer sold in Europe.
But I guess I'll go for it. Since I won't have any luck here, I'll just buy it from Eurocom.

There's one piece of advice I need from people who already own a Panther 5.
Eurocom offers several screens:
- 17.3-inch (43.9cm); FHD 1920x1080; GLOSSY (Glare); 500:1; Hannstar HSD173PUW1; LVDS; Backlight LED
- 17.3-inch (43.9cm); FHD 1920x1080; GLOSSY (Glare); 90% NTSC; AUO B173HW01 V.4; 500:1; LVDS; Backlight LED [add €56]
- 17.3-inch (43.9cm); FHD 1920x1080; MATTE (Non-Glare); 300nts; 500:1; LVDS Backlight LED; Chimei Innolux N173HGE-L11
- 120Hz; 17.3-inch (43.9cm) FHD 1920x1080; MATTE (Non-Glare) Wide Viewing Angle; eDP; LP173WF2 [add €330]
- 120Hz; 17.3-inch (43.9cm) FHD 1920x1080; GLOSSY (Glare-Type); eDP; LP173WF2 [add €278]

Purely based on quality, what should I take? Price is not that important.
I know matte screens often give less vivid colors. I mostly use my laptop indoors so I guess I should take the glossy then?
Is the 120Hz screen a big plus opposed to the regular screen?

 

17.3-inch (43.9cm); FHD 1920x1080; GLOSSY (Glare); 90% NTSC; AUO B173HW01 V.4; 500:1; LVDS; Backlight LED

This is the one I had, colors pop. However it's LVDS.

In this type of machine I'd go with a 120hz display. Once you go 120hz it's just not the same:

120Hz; 17.3-inch (43.9cm) FHD 1920x1080; GLOSSY (Glare-Type); eDP; LP173WF2

 

Agreed on this one! 120Hz gives you a much smoother Quality than 60Hz ever could. I field the matte Version.

 

Take this one.

If you really want the glossy you can, but I can only vouch for the matte one.

It really is.

 

i have had glossy all my life, take the matte its worth it.

 

Three to one on matte vs glossy lol but we all agree on 120hz. So it's your preference on glossy or matte but definitely go with the 120hz display.

 

Ok, thanks for the input guys. I'll go for the matte 120Hz version.

 

It certainly helps use all the power inside the machine having a higher refresh rate

 

Hi @ all,

just took a look at CrystalDiskInfo and found out that all my drives are running at SATA/300!?

Did a quick benchmarking and the results are quite too low:

Spoiler: CrystalDiskInfo

Spoiler: AS SSD

Spoiler: CrystalDiskMark

Wanted to replace my aging Momentus XT's and I am wondering, if it is worth the bucks to throw in a pair of Crucial MX200 500GB in RAID 0 when running on SATA/300?

Any suggestions on that?

 

Sata III is 6 gbps or roughly 900 to 1100 MB's in raid 0
Your Intel drive will stay at a max of 250 MB if you leave it in it's current slot.

 

If you attach a SATA 600 drive to a 300 port it will run the slower speed. The only two ports with SATA 600 are those in the middle. The one under the battery is SATA 300, as is the ODD port (I have a 4th HDD in the ODD bay). In which bay do you have the SSD?

Short answer - yes, it would be worth it. Put both new SSDs in the same HDD drive caddy (the one in the middle) and they should both run at 6GB/s.

 

that last graph CDM is HDD, it stays at that speed no matter which sata port u put in it lol. also if ALL your drives are running at that speed u got them all in raided together?

 

DDR4 SODIMM.. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/seagate-8tb-enterprise-nas,29978.html
look at this latency OMG 2133 at CL13 LOL

 

You guys are making me want to trade my X7200 for the P570WM.

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Okay, thanks guys for your input. My Intel is running indeed under the battery slot. Wasn't aware that it is only SATA/300.
But as I want the RAID 0 SSD's to do the heavy work - heavily modded Skyrim takes a loooong time to load - it will stay that way.

 

In other words... Replace your slow mech drives with ssd's. And watch skyrim fly on loading times. That's at least 800 MB+ reads vs your ...err...ummm...180 MB now. Provided skyrim is on the raided drives now. And 250 MB on the intel drive is still kinda slow.

 

When you say "load" do you mean installing or launching the game? If you are referring to installing it, there is an easy solution if Skyrim is already installed on the same drive as your OS. You could still move the drive to one of the 6GB/s bays without affecting anything if it is not already in a RAID membership. If you decide to go RAID0 with the two new SSDs in the SATA 3 HDD caddy you could clone from your current SSD to a new one, install Intel RST and then create the RAID0 volume from within Windows with the matching SSD in the HDD caddy. Then grab an inexpensive 2TB HDD for the bay under the battery and use that for data.

Edit: LOL - Brother @johnksss and I keep posting at the same time. Refresh and *BOOM* there it is.

 

LOL. Indeed!

 

I bet there are a fair few small file loads so the HDD likely gets even lower numbers than that.

 

You are correct Meaker. I was just being nice with the 180, but it's more like 45 on small file reads.

 

As always a pleasure Mr. Fox! I will give it a try!

I indeed kept my Intel as Systemdrive + other Applications and put my Games on the aging XT's. Now it's time to infuse my rig with some fresh Technology!

 

asus external water cooled laptop. i know u're getting one meaker john fox

 

It's a pointless laptop to anybody who owns this. The CPU will be garbage, the GPU won't touch 980M SLI either.

 

I like the water cooling solution from Asus, but Bga hardware destroys the entire concept.

 

Yep, going to have to pass on it. Just waiting for the 990M in mxm form to show up.

 

I'm hoping that there'll be a 500W single PSU. =D.

Well there needs to be 430W minimum if they're going to SLI two 990Ms and a desktop CPU in anything. Even the 130W CPUs in the P570WMs and 780Ms/980Ms wouldn't draw as much power as two supposed 150W GPUs + 95W CPU. Unless they want to sell new SLI machines dual-PSU only?

 

Edit: Aaand CEG takes charge with rumors it seems. I closed the video. $3200 for two 990Ms, LEL. No.

 

Why don't we wait for things to arrive before making judgments. We have all seen hilarious pre-launch prices.

 

skylake mobile got an unlocked chip hope it'll be socketed instead of BGA. and naw dual 990m is prob not possible cause people dont sell laptop with dual PSU except clevo. i wouldnt mind dual 990m in alienware though and do a dual psu mod. except can't really OC at all and my room will be oven, lmao 430W

 

I don't know if we will see a socketed skylake mobile processor. There weren't any broadwell ones.

 

theres not a lot of mobile laptop chip anyway for broadwell, it was for like few months before skylake took over. skylake's mobile cpu are HQ as well except one has a K thats the one overclockable, to an extend prob not anything over 4ghz because of TDP restriction anyway. hope we'll see it as socketed

 

Skylake mobile is all BGA... Forget socketted in mobile... You want socketed processors in desktop...Get a Clevo Batman + Batman SLI

 

I think if the HK series are truly tweakable it does not matter if BGA becomes a thing since the outlay is so much less than the old extreme editions.

 

i dont wanna have to disassemble everything just so i can swap cpus around lol, i love getting cpu and try and resell to get a better chip. my luck sucks though nothing as of yet to be proud of 4.4ghz at 1.37v for a mobile i'd say not bad.

 

A bit more inconvienient for binning sure, but honestly how many people do that and used to do it for extreme editions? This is better for the vast majority of tweakers.

And hey, clevo have you covered with desktop CPUs if you really don't want that.

 

except that i have to delid, which i dont mind doing but if i do delid then contact may suck which defeats purposes of deliding in the first place to replace crappy TIM.

clevo, dat skylake-E, put it into laptop pls and thanks

 

All you need to do is adjust the backplate if you are worried about contact, I would personally find a way of leaving the heatspreader off.

 

@Mr. Fox: My SSD's arrived today and I am eager to get the new SSD-Combo alive. So basically I want to migrate my OS from the Intel SSD to the SSD RAID 0 and afterwards clone the Content (Games, Steam folder, etc.) of my Momentus XT RAID 0 onto the new SSD RAID 0.

Can I do that completey using Acronis True Image or Aomei Backupper? If yes, do I firstly have to create the SSD RAID 0 before starting the migration/cloning action? I am not sure but it seems that you either can clone the whole volume (not preferred) or migrate the Content of a volume into the new one (preferred).

"If you decide to go RAID0 with the two new SSDs in the SATA 3 HDD caddy you could clone from your current SSD to a new one, install Intel RST and then create the RAID0 volume from within Windows with the matching SSD in the HDD caddy." -> Wasn't aware that this is even possible!? Would the OS on one SSD not be wiped out, if I create a RAID 0 with it? If not, will the OS remain as part of one drive and therefore not gain the "Speed" Advantage of the RAID 0 Volume?

Can anyone please confirm this? Sorry for the n00b questions, but backup-ing/migrating volumes is fairly new to me. I am not used to it.

 

Adding or removing a drive from raid 0 effectively formats it.

 

Since there will be two wings and a tail as well as a lot of fire involved, I guess I'll call the SLI the ' Phoenix'.

 

Now if only we could shove 120Hz panels in that

 

The old 120Hz ones should work, but as the eDP port is wired in a propitiatory way for the 4K screens,the cable may need some modding. Not sure if there will be an official cable option...

 

Well, let's hope. Otherwise if 120Hz isn't an option, I still see that machine as a downgrade to the P37xSM and P37xSM-A models. I wish people would make more high refresh panels T_T.

We also need the LCD cover to be able to handle the panels of the same size and have the correct mounting orientation too. It's why the P770ZM potential for the 120Hz panel is so low; you need to buy the model with eDP (using the IPS screen) and then buy the LCD cover for the LVDS Chi Mei/AUO panels so the LG 120Hz panel will fit.

 

I also wish they would bring internal 3D back...ah well got a new board for my good old P170HM3...

 

is 120hz screen worth it? i thought 60hz is already very good, no point having a game run on more than 60fps and usually movies/videos are like 30fps.

 

Until you try it you'll not understand it. It is worth it.

 

Any average gamer or PC enthusiast who has actually used a 120hz monitor (for about a week - long enough to let your eyes get adjusted) can tell the difference very very quickly. The 60hz monitor will no longer feel nearly as fluid, input lag will be more noticeable, even scrolling webpages will be irritating compared to what they're now used to.

So, if you have the chance to get one: Do it!

 

What are you getting in firestrike?

 

Sorry guys to bother you with my attempts to get my OS migrated/cloned/backupped from my old SSD to my RAID0 SSD's.

Can anyone please provide me with a short guide, in a few words, how to do it?

What I tried so far:

- setting up RAID0 in Windows and cloning OS afterwards -> didn't work because of the nature of the dynamic volume
- setting up RAID0 in BIOS and cloning OS afterwards -> did work but OS won't start afterwards (BSOD in RAID-Mode and "no OS found" in AHCI-Mode)

I was told that by cloning from AHCI- to RAID-Mode the initial settings for RAID are disabled and that you have to install it via RST afterwards to get your OS running -> but how?
I am not able to enter Safe Mode (F8 isn't working and the settings for Start options are curiously not existent), so what am I missing?

 

You will have to get the raid drivers on that ahci install. But seriously do a clean install if you can to ensure proper alignment.