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    *** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HardCore88, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. wickette

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    Perfect, what is your reseller :) ? Thanks and feel free to share your results and your temps ;).

    Well for the Ram Kingston HyperX has a good quality/price ratio, I never use mechanical HDD, i invested in a 1TB SSD few years ago and still use it :). regarding the drive where window is I prefer using a M.2 ultra fast high quality SSD.
     
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    I'm going with the default 16GB RAM, I guess i'm of the belief that you're better off buying an extra stick of RAM than paying for a minimal performance increase with a brand. But I'll admit I haven't done much research lately into it, so I can't say i'm the best source.

    SSD the Samsung 950 Pro, hands down. Now that they're running off the NVMe standard, it blows away the other SSDs on SATA, even the 850 Pro. ( Link) They are pricey tho, so I'm getting the 256 GB as a compromise. Since I keep any photos on an external drive anyways, and am using only ~200 GB after 5 years of my current laptop, the 1 TB backup will suffice. Maybe a couple years down the road the price per GB improves enough that I'll think of upgrading, but for now I'll be fine.
     
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    On that note, it appears the 2nd M2 slot does not have PCIe Gen3x4, which would negate any advantage of buying a second 950 Pro or similar further down the line? Can anyone confirm?

     
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    I'd love it if you could game for an hour or so, ideally Witcher 3, Crysis 3, something like that, and report on the fan noise. Imagine you have a wife and baby on a sofa 3 metres away who don't like noisy fans - will they complain? ;-)
     
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    And I had an email from sager saying that the p650rs had a 60Hz screen screen. He said 75 at first. But then sent another email correcting himself to 60Hz. So I think we need another confirmation. Mayhaps someone that already has the screen and laptop?

    Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
     
    SirSaltsAlot, Aug 30, 2016
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  6. mishkasm

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    This is exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks!
     
    mishkasm, Aug 30, 2016
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    Oh, I'm very interested in noise. I don't have any fancy equipment but I'll give you my subjective opinion once I play with it a bit. I used to have an old Asus ROG G73JH and the damned thing sounded like a vacuum cleaner once it spun up.

    Side note - I bought from Xotic PC.
     
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    I have Windows 10 Pro 64bit Anniversary Update.

    Yes, I have 6820HK.

    Can you disable MSHYBRID and test for CPU downclocking and high CPU usage when external display is connected?
     
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  9. ace_bandage

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    Sure, will add this to my to-do list. What tool should I be using to view downclocking?
     
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    [​IMG]

    Just arrived mid breakfast! Gonna get on testing and unboxing too later

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
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    I'm going backtrack somewhat; while the 950 Pro has impressive stats, I found another article with real-world testing (i.e. bootup time and game loads), and it found the real performance benefit to be minimal.
     
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    p670 ?
     
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  14. Kittys

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    Yes, I got the RP6

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
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    Just ordered an NP8153 from LPC Digital and will be 'patiently' waiting for its arrival. Apparently they're extremely popular right now.
    Gonna use it to replace my 980 ti mini itx system. Went with the gtx 1070. Very excited from what I'm seeing.
     
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    [​IMG]
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    Debadged unit otherwise pretty for those still unsure

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
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    [​IMG]
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    Usual sager package is to be found

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
    Kittys, Aug 30, 2016
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    Thank you sir, that article really helped my to clear my mind about buying or not a m2 ssd
     
    Garridovic, Aug 30, 2016
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  19. applehusky

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    Wow. Looks really clean without the branding. 0.o
     
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    my .02 (i looked up a lot) The real benefit to NVME is having tons of read/write so professional photo editing and video editing etc, in fact a lot of reports have said start up time will slow down because of the architecture(compared to standard ssd). ssd's suffer (just like hdd) in speed when more of the drive is being used so i find a 256gb to limiting anymore because of that(normally 500gb has double the cache as 256 as well). NVME gets hot and uses more electricity and costs 2x as much. So i chose m.2 850 evo 500gb which is same price as 250gb nvme 950.
     
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  21. mtx0011

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    i read that the power consumption is alot less with the 950 pro. the price difference isn't that much between 950 pro 256 and a 850 pro. i got 1 for mine
     
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    Good points. I totally forgot about the extra heat pipe. I really wish they would post a review of the P650RS-G, or better yet, I wish mine would hurry up and get here.
     
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    I don't know where you see that.

    I've universally seen that the 0950 is hungrier, especially at idle. At peak speeds the p er write/read power consumption is lower, although total power consumption is still higher. What I can't find easily is "real world" power consumption, as I noted in benchmarks the 950 was a beast, but in OS load and game boot it wasn't nearly as special.

    For the 650RS the price difference between the 850 and 950 is $110 and $185 (256 & 512 GB, respectively.). that's nothing to sneeze at.
     
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    i got mine for $130. i think most sites changed the price on the upgrade
     
    mtx0011, Aug 30, 2016
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    You sure you didn't just start on a higher default SSD?
     
    bewilder2, Aug 30, 2016
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    I have a pcie SSD in my Sony Vaio pro and it's really fast in boot, but I'm not sure I would say it's hugely faster than my super old monster SSD. Like maybe a few seconds faster on boot up.
     
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  27. Kittys

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    Everything was looking good then I went into bios enabled xmp on ram...and then switched gpu mode to discrete for gsync and well now the laptop kb lights up power lights up and...few sec later turns off and then lights up again in a loop. Display wont even turn on and i cant seem to get to bios anymore

    Sigh fun stuff

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
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    What pcie ssd model do you have??
     
    Garridovic, Aug 30, 2016
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    I'm not sure I'll have to check it when I get home. I just know it's pcie.
     
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    Turn off your notebook completely, press fn+d and the power button, this will reset the cmos. It works on some DM notebooks.
     
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    Well that's not good!
     
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    Disaster averted. I forgot i had mismatched ram so xmp wrecked it

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
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    Ah. Hopefully you're all fixed up?
     
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    Yesh thank the stars. Now its a matter of remembering passwords to bnet and such and the fun is done

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
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    Grrr....I ordered my system on 8/19 from LPC digital. He called 2 days later to tell me it (P650RS-G) was backordered and wouldn't ship until 8/31. So some people are getting their systems this week, but the Sager site now shows backordered until 9/9. Reached out to Larry at LPC and he can't give me any info on when my machine might ship!!!!!

    He said he might know something tomorrow.
     
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    Did you contact him 2 days ago or he contacted you? I also ordered on 8/19 but didn't get any backordered notification.
     
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    they are certainly making money on these pascal Notebooks
     
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    Is your model come with with gtx1060?
    Also, is any of the two type-c ports thunderbolt 3?
     
    Aisaka Taiga, Aug 30, 2016
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    It is. I have a P670RP6-G..I will have to check but I am sure both are just gen2 ports!


    Can't blame them or us. Even if its just a 14nm deviation of maxwell the differences on mobile end are just too delicious to pass up if you can.

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
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    Most of the people getting them now ordered awhile back. I ordered mine exactly a week ago. I should get it by next Monday.
     
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    Only P7X and P8X have TB3
     
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    Larry called me on 8/21 to inform me of the back order status, at which point he told me that it should ship on 8/31. When I checked the Sager site yesterday and saw that their back order status had moved back to 9/9, I emailed Larry to ask if he had an updated shipping estimate. His response was that these are the "hottest selling" Sager systems in quite some time, and that they weren't getting enough units from Clevo to fill all of the orders. He will have an update for me tomorrow, but I have a feeling that the order may be pushed back further.
     
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    sry i got on sale separately
     
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    Not sure if you are in the US, but just a reminder that next Monday is a holiday.
     
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    Can someone with a P650 tell me how much it weighs? Kg or lbs please. I saw 6.2 lbs (I think) in the german review, but I'd love to hear from owners.
     
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    That totally depends on how many gigs of porn you have stored on your hard drives :D

    LOL jk, I'll do a real check in a bit
     
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    9/10 would reuse :)
     
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    my bad I meant Tuesday :p Larry said They should receive it back by Tuesday shipping will take 2 days.
     
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    Oh well. I guess it will give me time to cancel my order if I like Alienware's lineup. :D
     
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    wow I failed. I meant Larry will get it by this Thursday...not Tuesday lol.but no delivery on weekends so Tues is soonest I think.
     
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