*** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

I opened every screw out of the bottom. But as i said..and i will post a picture of it later as well i had to get the lower part open first to finnaly lift the upper (hinge side) off. There were some plastic pins that were behind the gpu heatsink and got stuck behind that. Also the usb 3 port at the end sticks thru the case. I got it off by putting 2 platic cards between the side and slowly working to the bottom where it popped of. Then i was able to lift it off the back. Im typing this on my new notebook right now. Works great so far. Will repaste it next week tho but thats a different matter. So far the screen is alright tho i got some bleed in the top right corner and bottom right. Also my bezel doesnt completely fit in the screen(you can see a bit of pcb of the panel) but its very minor. Bleed prob has to do with the thightness of the bezels as pushing it backwards at the outside makes the effect less apparent. But apart from that im happy. Got some random fan bursts in control center but im not concerened about that since il just await updates.

 

any suggestion for a decent cooling pad for my p670rs-g?

 

Yeah it was probably me
Gotta agree about fan noise some people can live with it but I can't, I realize some laptops run louder than others but it's a huge no no for me, I dont mind hearing fans but as long as it's not a high pitch droning but like you said a steady "whoosh".
Past Clevos sort of had weird fan profiles, they were pulsating high to low for no reason ( I know mine used too) hopefully they fixed things with these updated models.

 

I think elevating the notebook is enough. I tested the u3 cooling pad (w/o fans) yesterday with my p670 stock paste.

Cooling pad dropped the cpu and gpu temp by 2-3 Celsius during firestrike standard benchmark.

I tested with the u3 cooling pad fans and got worse performance in temp and benchmark score. I haven't tried to elevate the notebook between cooling pad and cooling pad fans.

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You have better temps without then with fan on notepal U3? Interesting.

 

unbelievable !!!

 

I know. It might be because I put the fans right under the 3 intakes. My guess is that forcing air into the notebook doesn't help or messes with the internal fans. I ran the benchmarks twice with and without fans because it made no sense. The u3 stock fans are pretty weak. Any other possible explanations?

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If someone can do video of idle to say...overwatch on p670rp6 i can post one of fan noise after (i have to anyways!

Itll be good excuse too...i might be going crazy but i think i hear a fan imbalance when it goes between rpms otherwise its a subtle woosh. Xmg ec does run fans more but its at a balance i think that is much better.

As for cooling pads....even my SF17 behemoth of a pad dropped the system overhead by only 2c...ive been playing in my bed mostly diablo 3 and overwatch and on a 14 dollar lap pad i get 60 to 64c on gpu just get one where you can reposition fans or that lifts it up as said

Edit: for the bezel issue pull it off And try to realign it...it shouldn't be showing like that and could be contributing to bleed like you said

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I have this one http://www.multicom.no/multicom-kunshan-p651r-156-full-hd/cat-p/c1000042/p10634635 I think it's probably the same, even though its says P651?
Can you make pictures when you re-paste, could be of great help to me if I decide to do it as well.
The overclock profile has been the best for me to keep fan noise down, it does ramp up in more demanding games but nothing too crazy (-75mV undervolt on the CPU as well).

 

I can record with my phone later. What is the best way to record?

I figure recording a vid from idle (no game) to full (over watch on ultra on a quick match). I have a lot of ambient noise from outside here in the big city.

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Hmm... Same distance would be ideal what about like...foot or two?

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Wow, sorry to hear about this

Yikes, I am about to order the same system from LPC. Please report back on how things go with the return.

I know LPC does a "burn in" with these machines (96 hrs or do?) but something might have happened during transport.

BTW is it possible that the ram voltage is off for the sockets that fail? I don't know if hwinfo reports this. It may give you some insight on temps too if that can be a factor for ram.



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Does the fan issue apply to all the Clevo 10-series laptops? My 650rs is in the build phase at xotic... Wonder if they'd install the bios update if applicable.

 

I have SilentiumPC Glacier NC400 cooling pad. W/o fan in idle CPU hit 38C wiht fan on 36C (low) 34C (high).

 

Hope I did this right. Overwatch on ultra. Used shadowplay to record. Mic level 60, mic boost +10 and no sound suppression. Some ambient noise from outside. I can redo the video this evening if I should change mic/recording settings.

 

Whats your ambient temp? stock paste?

 

Oki i shall do the sameee! Built in mic?

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Yep.

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24-25C ambient. Gelid Extreme on CPU and GPU.

 

Tiny bit of advice needed: I'll be lugging this to and from work and will be connected to a monitor 95% of the time and it will be closed when at home positioned under a riser for space.and I'll be using the laptop monitor as the extended screen.

Does G-Sync work for the external monitor too? Otherwise, perhaps I should see if I can get a model without G-Sync if they exist? Additionally, is there any docks worth looking into for organisation/cleanliness to use with this?

 

Gsync works with external displays.

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External monitors which are G-Sync certified work regardless of whether or not you paid for internal G-Sync.

 

The gpus need the GSync chip in them however. Some actually don't have it, so that is something to be aware of.

 

At work i use dells usb c dock and it works perfect! In discrete gsync should work externally if monitor is gsync enabled too

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It should work even in mshybrid as the discrete GPU is directly connected to the external ports. So they always use dgpu. Mainly for people using vr headsets.

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Both monitors I use don't have G-Sync chips in them, but as long as the laptop has it, I'll get to experience G-Sync? If so that'd be great!

Great, I'll see if I can get them to buy me one. Do you notice any latency or input lag issues with using TB docks and external monitors?

 

As far as I'm aware all mid-tier and up Nvidia GPUs since the 600 series have been G-Sync capable.

No. The monitor itself has to be G-Sync certified, which means it'll have the hardware inside. Mobile G-Sync is a bit different since it's just Nvidia's implementation of the open Adaptive Sync standard, so you literally need nothing besides their "special" cards which have a few resistors changed to mark them as licensed (and an LCD which has been marked as approved by Nvidia).

 

Youll only get gsync then if you use the laptops gsync panel. I haven't noticed display lag yet either....but I will note i also haven't tried using all the usb ports etc with display out either

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No no, unless I'm mistaken wasn't there something going on where people had 900 series graphics cards without the ability to use GSync at all? The external monitor definitely needs the chip in it, but I thought there was some fiasco with the P870s where if you bought it without Gsync... Oh nevermind, it was that the panels themselves couldn't be updated to support it. Ignore what I said the gpus are fine.

 

Ah that's quite the pity. Thanks for the bit on the dock. Mayhaps when you get the chance, give that a go and get back to me on how that works out :3 I remember briefly reading somewhere in the early pages of this thread about some re-sellers having configs without G-Sync but I can't seem to find it. G-sync triggers a LOT of results. Any idea who the re-sellers might be?

 

For sager at least non gsync variants are using wideview TN panels and its NP8171 for 17.3 model and NP8151 for 15.6 1060 equipped units but xoticPC has them and sure give me like...10m try to blow it up

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Guess I'll stick with the base G-Sync IPS configs then.

Oh god you didn't have to do that now; whenever suits.

 

I get to leave this prison in 35 minutes so its all good.

Edit: so i put in 2 drives (i have this dock: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1217292)

Both transferring at around 10mb/s (what else is to be expected of free usb drives?) and its hooked to external display via miniDP there seems to be no issue at least. Its all powered so that also is fair warning
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Link just takes me to B&H home.

(They have an epic store in NYC btw)

 

Cheers for that, much appreciated.

It's most likely the second dock on this page:
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/dell-type-c-thunderbolt-docking-stations,1-3094.html


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Oh man so much info! I'm trying to sort through all these options and I think I have one question about displays left.

For the P650RS:

2 displays: 1080p IPS display and a 4k display

It doesn't say IPS for the 4k on xotic, so is it not an IPS then? Will there then be a drop in display quality and such for the 4k screen or not really? In terms of viewing angles etc? I would like the extra resolution for day to day tasks (would probably still gaming on 1080p) but not at the cost of actual visual quality and usability.

Also, do both displays have 120 Hz? Can't find a clear answer on that.

And Xotic options says G-sync for both displays, so I assume both laptop displays have G-Sync capable as well? Thanks

 

I believe both displays are 60hz, I'm not sure if anyone here has received one with a 4k panel yet so can't comment on that ATM.

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None of the displays are 120Hz, both are 60. The 4K one should be a PLS panel (Samsung IPS) I know it is at HID idk if Xotic uses something else.

 

I dont botter removing all the screws again, but does the P65x with 1070 have shared heatpipe like the P67x? I have now been able to get stable -175 undervolt (after linking profile to windowsshell) and i`t seems like GPU-temp does not rise that much anymore, and the fans dont seem that loud either. Before undervolt temps typically reached 74 on both CPU\GPU during Fallout 4, but after GPU maxes out at 69C and CPU 67C.

I changed my Fallout 4 to ultra and now it runs at 60 fps stable. Turning godrays on ultra and shadowdistance to max gets framerates of 30 fps in some area, even without AA. The visual differences are not that big

 

Yep it does have that extra heatpipe

 

Okay, then undervolting affecting GPU-temp is understandable Undervolting 1070 would be nice too if it`s possible, but how to do that is another matter

 

I think playing with GPU voltages would require a custom bios like Prema's Have a look see on his forum page to see what it does

 

I think you need to use a program to modify the GPU vbios. But I'm not positive

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Another budding P650RS-G owner here. I pulled the trigger as they say on this beauty from LPC Digital:

Display: 15.6” 4K QFHD (3840x2160) Clear Matte G-SYNC™ Technology Display
Zero Dead Pixel Insurance: Guaranteed no dead or partially-lit pixels for first 30 days - SPECIAL!
Video & Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 1070 GPU with 8GB GDDR5 NVIDIA PASCAL™
CPU / Processor: 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-6820HK (8M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz)
Thermal Compound: IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU - SPECIAL!
Operating System: Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled, (without Recovery Media)
Memory: 16GB Dual Channel DDR4 2400MHz (PC4 19200) (2 x 8GB) - SPECIAL!
M.2 SSD Drive Slot 1: SanDisk X400 1TB M.2 SSD - (Primary Drive C)
Primary Hard Disk Drive: None - No Primary Hard Drive/SSD
Wireless Network Card: Intel® Dual Band Ultra -AC 8260 M.2 AC + Bluetooth 4.2 Combo Card
Warranty & Services: LIFETIME Limited Labor and 2 Years Premium Parts Warranty

This came to under $2100 (put on my CC to get another year warranty - maybe).

Now I'll sit back and let that "what the F@!#$ am I doing buying a $2000 laptop" feeling wash over me =P

 

If you are noise-sensitive I would seriously reconsider the i7 6820 if I were you Things are bad enough with the 6700, and the GPU is the limiting factor in most games due to limitied use of GPU-boost.

 

Without OC'ing I don't think the 6820 is going to be significantly different than the 6700. I'm also almost certainly gone to take off the stock paste and put on some Gelid GC-Extreme which I've read very good things about here.

 

Cool. Is battery pull necessary after flashing the EC or is that just after the BIOS?

 

You don't need to pull off battery after flashing.
1) download proper zip file,
2) make bootable USB DOS stick and transfer extracted files onto it,
3) restart, hit F@ and disable UEFI boot in BIOS,
4) restart, hit F7 and pick boot to USB,
5) flash EC,
6) after reboot enable UEFI boot in BIOS,
7) you have new, improved EC

 

BTW, just read up about power over USB-C, so how does the dock work with the P650? Is it also able to deliver power to the computer so that I won't have to buy another AC adapter for work?

 

No. Power over USB-C is limited to 100W and is for laptops designed to be charged entirely from the USB-C port like the Macbook.