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-75 seemed to be the magic number for me and I used Intel tuning, just do the same thing. If you go over -75 you might get minor crashes you don't notice especially when switching from high to low loads, and also the gpu was slower at -100mv for me, I have no idea why. But -50 and -75 were about the same temps and shave 10W off at the wall, meaning the burning power brick isn't as hot anymore, so no more bacon.

 

I'm new to undervolting also. But what's the difference with using XTU?

 

Would just like to ask if anyone has an idea. I'm considering replacing the stock thermal pads, in addition to repasting.

 

I noticed that I don't have the keyboard backlight application installed. Is this part of Clevo Center?

 

I'm afraid I don't have a good solution for your keyboard but I always remap the left control to capslock. Unless you use capslock heavily (maybe some games use it) this would at least give you a control key in an arguably more ergonomic position. I usually just remap caps-lock to left-ctrl:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-caps-lock-key-in-windows-vista/

 

With Skylake CPU's, first thing to do is UV... Intel's stock voltage is too high!!!

 

100% true

The stock Skylake voltage is way too high for the stock clock speeds thus creating unnecessary heat.

Each CPU varies but here is a good start point

for a 4.2 GHz clock speed on all cores = -140 to -150mV
for a 4.4 GHz overclock on all cores - 70mV to -80mV
For a 4.5 GHz overclock on all cores = -40mV
For a 4.6 GHz overclock on all cores = -26 mV

Again, this is on my Silicon Lottery CPU so your mileage my vary but this way you know where to start then do minor adjustment to find the sweet spot between lesser heat and stability

 

That's odd. It's my understanding that the 'Flexikey' application comes with Clevo's Control Center.

 

Well with a 6700HQ at 3.5 ghz max, you can't get that aggressive. I've found -75mv to be completely stable and going to -100mv is same heat and you lose stability. Mobile processors aren't defaulted as high as desktop processors.

 

Hi there, has anybody experienced issue with the fingerprint reader on Windows Hello?
My Windows Hello fingerprint option just suddenly went dark and it now says Windows Hello is not available on this device.

 

I recall from the P650SE/SG thread that a few people who had similar problems with the fingerprint reader either did not have a Microsoft account or had to reinstall the fingerprint driver.

 

Yest,it is.

Wysłane z Mi5

 

A simple restart fixed the problem for me. Yes, sometimes the fingerprint acts weird. Just one time it was completely gone and said "not supported on this device", a couple of times it just won't read my finger.

 

many people on this forum strongly advised not to use Intels XTU since it messes up your fan profiles so you really want to use ThrottleStop!

 

So what should I do now to fix it?

 

Every processor is different.. Its trial and error to get your sweet spot..

I've personally not noticed this but on the safe side, get Throttlestop instead..

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I have done all you said but I cannot get G-Sync to work properly.
When I activate G-Sync (Nvidia Control Panel > Manage 3d Settings > Monitor Technology > G-SYNC, Set up G-SYNC > Enable G-SYNC) every game I play is locked to 30 fps (Witcher 3, CS: GO, Dota 2, HoS).
Anyone knows if I have to do something else?

 

Are power settings set to performance in windows, nvidia and clevo control center?

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Thanks for the tips but it's still not running properly
Dota 2, CS:GO and HoS are still capped to 30fps but Witcher 3 is capped to 30fps at outsides environments and 60fps inside houses or caves. Is this normal?

 

For csgo I had the alt tab bug. Start csgo. Play in a game. Alt tab out. Then alt tab back in.

Is your geforce experience power setting set to battery?

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I gave up on the fingerprint scanner. It rarely worked,and I had to enter my password 90% of the time.

 

Yes it was.
I tried changing it to 60fps and disabling it but no changes

 

Are you plugged in or on battery?

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Plugged in. Do I have to activate V-Sync?

 

Yeah its always hit and miss.. I gave up, just use a 4 number pin code lol

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Shouldn't matter. Can you try discrete mode and/or run HWMonitor. Post clock speed, voltage and temp of your gpu

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I'm always on discrete mode.
Here you have my HWMonitor data while idle, CS:GO and Witcher 3
http://imgur.com/a/x0ETB
Thanks for the help mate.

 

Here is my idle and csgo: http://imgur.com/a/jEs2R

Only thing that looks weird are your CPU clock speeds and your CPU voltages. They both look very low. That might be your issue.

 

You said it fluctuates from 60fps and 30fps in the Witcher 3. This is a phenomenon caused by a double buffered Vsync, a.k.a. just regular Vsync. So with Vsync, only one frame can be displayed per refresh. Also every frame has to be flushed so the next frame can be displayed. Double buffer means the GPU has two buffers to work with, a front and back buffer. The front buffer is what the GPU is displaying. The back buffer is what the GPU will write the next frame to. If the system has yet to flush the current frame, the entire system becomes backed up so the GPU will not render the next frame. To correct for this, the system will wait two or more refresh cycles so it will shift to 30fps or less to compensate. This is why triple buffering exists; it allows the GPU to have a second back buffer allowing the GPU to write another frame just in case. So try turning on triple buffering in the Nvidia control panel. I think this is largely dependent on the game developer to implement triple buffering so I don't know if it'll help; or even affect DirectX games at all. But we have g-sync so maybe try disabling v-sync in your Nvidia control panel and in-game options first. Now moving on to the other games, these should get high frames since they aren't too graphically intensive. And Nvidia's fast-sync should compensate for the tearing regardless. My best guess is that they are somehow running on the Intel iGPU? Maybe your laptop is resetting to hybrid mode for some reason? Try setting it to discrete in the BIOS outside of Clevo Control Center. Make sure to 'save and exit' in the BIOS. If this still doesn't solve the problem, I'm out of ideas.

 

Think they can also try windowed mode since windows forces triple buffering iirc

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Wow, I thought it was just me! Kind of a waste that it doesn't work.... Maybe a drive update will fix this.

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I was surprised that Control Center was not preinstalled on my system. Is there perhaps a good reason not to install it?

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Newer Clevo CC who contains XTU is known to mess with the fans on P7/8 series. Perhaps same with P6 series as well? Also the older P870DM1 with XTU installed + CCC gave same problem.

 

@Papusan and @Phoenix

Is the bottom line here that the good folks @hidevolution had the good sense not to install Control Center and I just hosed my system because I wanted the flashy keyboard lights to work? Grrr!

I wasn't extremely happy with my fans, they were cranking full blast when I played a game, but I will check and see if they get a whole lot worse.

 

I know you really love that software And you're very happy every time Intel release a new Xtu update

 

unfortunately, the only way to fix this is to perform an NVRAM reset followed by an immediate format otherwise if you boot into Windows, it will mess up the fan profiles again

See:
NBR Windows 10 Clean Installation Guide

PS: Why don't you have the EVOC gaming team logo like me in you sig bro?

 

I give a damn in this keyboard lighs. And prefer to not use Bloatware in my computers. Nothing useful in this software. But that's me

 

Try this before going full nuclear if you're having fan issues.

 

are you guys talking about the new CCC that got released on 25th of october - does this new CCC include Intel XTU? Mine from septemper 30th does not have the XTU and I was thinking about upgrading the CCC but now I am not sure.

Edit: Nevermind I misunderstood something. I just installed the "new" CCC and it turned out to be exact the same version that I was using. I downloaded from the european servers and it was exactly the same version that I downloaded 6 weeks ago.

Also was anyone in this thread experiencing BSOD with this error code (using Whocrashed) syntp.sys DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
After analyzing the error message it is clear that this has to do with the Synaptics driver (touchpad drivers) but I also found a thread from about a year ago where people had this issue as well - if anybody is interested in watching the thread : http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/synaptics-causes-bsod-on-p650se.770938/

For now I uninstalled the Synaptics driver and will see and report if that helped anything..Since some people in this thread reported about BSODs you guys should install something like BlueScreenView or WhoCrashed so we can see if more of us have the same problem.

 

Aw crap... I knew I should have contacted HID before installing software since they really do seem to know what they are doing, but I was feeling lazy and wanted my keyboard to blink. Wow, what a mistake. I'm not sure I can forgive Clevo for releasing software that nukes their computers.

I'm a huge fan of @hidevolution and @Donald@HIDevolution did send me the logo, but I am in general not a huge fan of logos. I don't have one on my laptop or in my signature. In fact, I would love to peel off all those stickers on the left side of my palm wrest that say "SABRE HIFI" and "HDMI" and "GEFORCE GTX" and so on (6 stickers). Is that so wrong?

@Papusan - Witcher 3 was performing beautifully before I installed CCC and it's accompanying crapware. After installations things were going fine until the computer abruptly stalled and gave me the Win10 "frowny screen of death". So yeah, this was a huge mistake. I'll certainly have to take a lot more care when I installing software on this thing. Who would have thought that a laptop manufacture would so effectively nuke their own hardware platform?

EDIT: Thanks to @Phoenix for his excellent software list, I installed "WhoCrashed". The error appears to be hardware related (fatal hardware error) with a hint that this is most likely due to thermal issues. That actually makes sense if XTU did indeed screw up the fan profile...

 

Yes, I've been trying to control myself. I haven't yet put on Geforce Experience... I also went through some of the steps you guys have posted on removing telemetry and the annoying metro apps - that really helped.

But for some reason I let this one slip through...

 

Thanks for the lifeline! I'll give that a shot and hope for the best. I'm not ready to do a clean OS install... =(

 

Yees, Never be a Guinea Pig Not the first time people get screwed... And not the last time This is meant as a very good advice to all!! Not to offend you bro

 

No worries! If I can get this cancerous growth called CCC off my computer without completely wiping the system I'll consider myself lucky =)

I noticed there is a third party free Clevo keyboard light app out there. Does that work?

 

Thanks for the tip! Yes this definitely helped me find (well, confirm) what was hosing my system.

 

Haven't seen it. Maybe ask @Donald@HIDevolution

 

@Papusan and @Phoenix
Uninstalling CCC seems to have worked - but maybe there was a reason not to do this?
XTU is completley uninstalled as well as the control center ("hotkey") directory.
I will do the nvram reset next. What's the best way to confirm that my fan profiles are back to normal?

 

Not sure if he would know about this thing. Kind of a needle in a haystack. Here's where it is - I searched these forums and only saw a few mentions of it.

Anyone else every check this out?
https://clevomods.wordpress.com/custom-light-controller/

EDIT: my goal here is to make my keyboard flash randomly so I can annoy people =P

 

Use your machine as normal