Thanks for your answer, really appreciate your help. From what you say I'll be comfy, but a P-shaped Ethernet plug could still help.
I want to get the 1080p screen too. Unfortunately, both of the resellers here in Italy do not satisfy me - one offers the 3K panel only, while the other offers the TN 1080p and a crappy 2 year warranty which for me is simply not enough, since I want my purchase to last at least three years.
All of your remarks are completely right, maybe the 970M suits better with the 1080p screen. But since I'll have to order the laptop from XMG, which takes ages just to respond to an email, it may be worth the wait. If I had more time I'd get the ZM, but getting the machine before Christmas is my priority...
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 I have a P2715Q coming in from Dell. Would the 980M be mandatory if I plan on using this display in 4K the majority of the time. I won't be driving both displays but would most likely have the lid closed only driving the 4K. 
 
 Games I plan on playing WOT, COD AW, Battlefield, etc.
 
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 pcspecialist's ETA of the 25/11 makes it so tempting to switch over... 
 
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 For the SG.? Or..?
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 Yes
 
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 I thought they said 08th of dec. ? would be awsome if its true. would be awsome if its true.
 
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 When did they say that? It's listed on their website as 25th November. Is that out of date?
 
 I know mySN have an ETA of the 3rd December.
 
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 Some other members here mailed with them i remember.. can someone confirms 25 nov. Or 8 dec ?
 
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 Whats the estimated price on the 980m version? 
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 Meaker@Sager Company RepresentativePretty much a requirement for any hope of 4k yes.
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 going to christen this baby with some blood dragon ericc191 likes this.
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 would you even try to compare this withe the 4K Lenovo Y50? 
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 considering there is a 4k option yes I would say that it's definitely comparable
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 You could just get a different 1080p IPS panel for like 100 dollars and install it yourself too. That's what a lot of people are going to be doing here.ericc191 likes this.
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 I'm pretty sure the 25th is old information that just hasn't been updated yet.
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 The Sager site claims a starting price of $1,649. WIndows 8.1 is most likely included in that price. So you're looking at around $1550ish range without an OS.tfast500 likes this.
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 I'm confused.. are you referring to the 980M? I thought this is what you had ordered already?
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 yes he did, but with a later ETA. so he was thinking to switch over to pcspecialist in order to get his machine sooner  Cakefish likes this. Cakefish likes this.
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 LOL.. I can't place my order with PC specialist as they are out of stock of 2 components I want. 
 
 GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ 1525 WIRELESS GAMING 802.11N + BLUETOOTH 4.0 (ETA: 12-12-2014)
 
 
 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M - 4.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11 (ETA: 25-11-2014)
 
 I guess I'll just have to be patient - not something I'm known for!ericc191 likes this.
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 Yeah, your solution is trivial. But these Italian resellers told me that if I swap the panel I'll lose the warranty on the laptop. Sooo...
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 unless they won't notice you changed the screen (*evil laugh*)redbytes likes this.
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 Sager notebooks rarely ever come with OS in price. $1649 is likely the cost WITHOUT OS.
 
 That's crazy. Find a different reseller then, or go to some place like Sager directly. Plus they wouldn't know if you swapped the LCD, really. It should be as simple as pop off the bezel, remove a handful of screws, disconnect the connector, and replace. Just swap out the LCD should you ever really need any warranty work. Most Clevo/Sager resellers are pretty relaxed about component swapping, they just obviously won't warranty the swapped component.
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 Try mysn eu. They are European seller and they can ship to Italy.
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 So I got a delivery date for my P650SG, of 20th december the earliest. Ow my gawd! 
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 that's not the case for all resellers  (thankfully). (thankfully).
 
 the real ETA is between december 3th and 9th. That's the case for Mysn and Pcspecialist
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 weeeell, ETA is not to be confused with the actual delivery date  especially when it comes to the very first shipment of units! both infos can actually be true, with ETA of units at the vendor being dec 3rd-9th and actual delivery to the customer being dec. 20th. especially considering that theres gonna be a backlog of orders that has to be processed... especially when it comes to the very first shipment of units! both infos can actually be true, with ETA of units at the vendor being dec 3rd-9th and actual delivery to the customer being dec. 20th. especially considering that theres gonna be a backlog of orders that has to be processed...
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 Which reseller?
 
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 I have now had my Clevo P650SG for a few days and I am very impressed. I have played Far Cry 4 and Crysis 3 both on Ultra Settings and it runs flawlessly. m033dkhan likes this.
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 that would make u the very first person here to have an SG model in his possession  u sure u dont mean the SE? if its indeed the SG im sure tons of users here would appreciate pictures and first impressions from your side u sure u dont mean the SE? if its indeed the SG im sure tons of users here would appreciate pictures and first impressions from your side  
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 Some local reseller that's been supplying my gaming-laptop needs for the past years Laptopuri de vanzare - cele mai bune laptopuri gaming Laptopuri de vanzare - cele mai bune laptopuri gaming
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 Hi is the SE model with the 970m and the SG with the 980m?
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 yep, correct 
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 I preordered my laptop from PCspecialist on november 1st, it's in pre-production, so all the administrative/financial crap is finished the next stage is buidling+testing so should'nt be long.... jaybee83 likes this. jaybee83 likes this.
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 Preorder open for P670SE/SG PCspecialist : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/defiance-17/ 
 
 
 I think that they have the 17" 970M version in stock Oo not sure tho, you can ask.
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 Did you noticed they use 2.6ghz i7 4720HQ CPU.
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 no worries, wouldve been nice to actually have a user with an SG machine   
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 yep . .
 
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 Just put my order in for 8651! Now the waiting game begins.... m033dkhan likes this.
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 Congrats, and now that you are waiting, the time seems to run very slowly!  
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 i feel for ya guys, looks like the ZM series will be delayed until january, so here goes more waiting for me...   
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 here's the updated P650SG clevo page : 
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 28.8mm
 We can have a little idea on how tall the laptop is, according to the (small) pics.
 
 Also probably a 4980HQ version will be available. (not probably, it's sure), confirming that indeed the CPU cooling has been improved by this thicker version, at least passively because of the increased height.
 the 3k screen is supposed to be a factory option but only Pcspecialist took it.
 Same Lipo than the SE.
 
 They updated their website quite soon, is the first ETA to ressellers the right one after all ^^ ? november 25th to get to the main resellers ? I'm just comparing with how they managed the p650SE page.
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 well well, looks like its time to update the OP again  will do that once i get home from the gym will do that once i get home from the gym
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 It is about 5 mm thicker compared to SE.
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 Great, seems we know just about everything except when we can start pre-prdering the Sager 8652!
 
 I can hardly stand the waiting any longer!
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 Getting both P651SG and P751ZM hopefully. Selling my old machines from 2010-2012 to reduce costs. Already have 2.3k covered. Just need the refund from the P35x and possibly my P150EM to get enough for all without loss. jaybee83 likes this.
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 28.8 - 25 = 3.8 mm , don't make it thicker !
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 I couldn't do it
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 now thats some serious processing power in a couple, nice! loving that combo  
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