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I dont know as we dont talk to them about their stock. You'll want to contact them directly for stock levels.

Edit: Sounds like there wasn't a delay, just lack of stock. They did get their initial shipment so I think no Sager sellers would have gotten some as well.

 

I have a big problem. My 2x8GB Rams are not working together. They are dual kit ram. Single ram working but togetger blue screen error. Memory management error, cache manager error, page fault in nonpaged area error.
I ask my technical services. They are sent me 2 new 8GB RAM.

I tested my rams with Memtest86+. Single module is OK, 2 modules Together = Errors.

 

did u test both stick in single mode and in each possible port? could be either one stick or either one ram port being faulty.

 

Yeah! So hope for my NP8652 with 1080 panel ordered to maybe be here before xmas! Been at stage 1 since the 3rd. Thanks for the info that things are still moving along!

 

Sorry to get your hopes up. The NP8652 isn't in stock yet, they just added those 4K screen options.

 

Hutsady, do you know what the difference is between the NP8651 and the NP8652 IPS displays are? They have different descriptions on Xotics website.

 

ahh.. sorry I misunderstood. Just waiting patiently but have to admit having a chance for my new toy on xmas had me a bit excited! If the eta of the 19th holds then is there a chance for delivery around xmas? Not holding you to anything but just curious.

Thanks again.

 

The latest for Sager and the Resellers is...

NP8651 Sharp 4K after 1/6

NP8651 IPS after 12/30

NP8651 FHD/Matte after 12/17

NP8652 Samsung 4K after 12/27

NP8652 IPS after 12/17



Sorry about this delay....

 

Just switched my order at XoticPC over from an Aorus x7 Pro to the Clevo P650SG. Happy to be here!

 

Welcome to the conversation!

 

Well at least they're getting decent screens as options!

 

Unless of course you made the cut on the first shipment of Sharp 4K screens like I did
Should hopefully have my NP8651 by Christmas (fingers crossed)!

 

Hi guys,

Is it normal to have multiple blue screens and display driver crashes? I received this laptop about a week ago, and since then have had random blue screen crashes with display driver problems. I have also been trying to run Final Fantasy XIII on this computer. As can be seen in the system requirements, a 970m should be absolutely plenty. However, I've been getting choppy framerates, stuttering every 2-3 seconds, and multiple blue screen crashes.

This is getting ridiculous - I'm not hard to please, but I'm beginning to feel like I should return this laptop and ask for a refund. Thoughts?

 

Try to return for exchange. I would order a new one, and return that one to limit downtime.

 

That's what I'm thinking. It's been just over a week since the unit arrived in my doorstep, and it's been nothing but trouble. I've reinstalled the OS and even swapped out a different hard drive, but the same issue persists. As soon as some load is applied to the graphics card, the unit becomes unresponsive and crashes. The fan starts up and the mouse begins to be sluggish even with just a 1080p youtube video that's loaded.

This is my second Sager unit, and I had not had these problems with my previous laptop. The experience is leaving a bitter taste in my mouth.

 

hey everybody,

i have been reading forums on here for a couple years but only just made myself an account. i'm excited to be a part of this amazing community!

i have decided on gettting a P650SG. Here are the specs that I am thinking at the moment.

15.6" FHS 1080P IPS LCD Matte Type
GTX 980M
i7-4720 (2.6 GHz to 3.6 GHz)
IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Genuine Microsoft Windows® 8.1 Professional 64-Bit Edition
16GB DDR3L 1600MHz - 2 X 8GB
Samsung® 256GB 850 Pro Series SSD
Intel® Dual Band - AC 7265 M.2 Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module 4.0

I have three questions.

1. Is it worth it to get the "No dead/partially lit pixels for the first 30 days" guarantee?

2. Options I should consider for the build and why?

3. I'm debating on whether to conduct my business with Mythlogic or LPC-Digital. Reasons to pick one over the other and why? Or any other companies to consider and why?

I live in the U.S. btw so no companies out of the country


one last thing to consider. mythologic has Crucial DDR3 1600MHz CL11 1.5V and LPC-Digital has Kingston HyperX DDR3L 1600 MHz CL9 1.35V

i dont know how much a difference there is between those two so any input on that would be appreciated at well

thanks!

 

Wait... the reseller I bought from strongly said that this laptop can't handle 1.5V memory. Did he/she lie? If Mythologic is offering 1.5V DDR3 ram, then it clearly means that the laptop can handle it. Hmm. Looks like I may need to ask for a refund rather than a replacement.

 

I am not 100% certain, but I believe I read in another thread that this Crucial memory is dual-voltage, and can run @ either 1.5v or 1.35v. The listing on Mythlogic's website just might not make this dual-voltage ability clear, and that it would actually be running @ 1.35 volts in this application. I may be wrong though, I couldn't actually see the make/model of any of the memory options on the Mythlogic site to look up the exact SKU.

Alternatively, your reseller is the very embodiment of evil, they've intentionally misled you about the memory voltage requirements of this laptop, and having successfully pulled one over on you have undoubtedly absconded to some tropical isle with all the extra $$$ they've made by their deception. You should probably return the laptop to these rogues forthwith, and demand not only a refund, but treble damages and a public apology. Or something to that effect.

 

Well 1.5V modules can work but you would be in a way overclocking it so stability is not guaranteed. Any 1.35V stick should work at 1.5V.

 

Sounds like driver issues to me.. Did you try different nvidia and the latest intel graphics? On my desktop I had the same issues with driver crashes and am running an older set 3 revisions back now which eliminated the driver crashes and screen unresponsiveness. I'd imagine that youtube is using the intel graphics and not nvidia.

 

A lot of us have had very similar issues with random frequent BSODs over on the P35X v3 thread. Sounds like the exact same issue. They've collectively established that it looks like an issue with NVIDIA and Intel Chipset drivers, or something like that. I never got to try the solutions out because I had to return mine due to faulty Intel 7260.

Speaking of wireless cards - what's the difference between the Killer 1202 and Killer 1525? Other than one supporting N and the newer one AC of course. I've asked Scan to be upgraded to the newer card, as it wasn't an option when I ordered all those millennia ago and it costs the same account of money, so they should be able to swap it into my order without any trouble *crossing my fingers!*

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Its a whole new atheros killer card : better signal, more stability, AC-support, etc.




regarding those BSOD i do not have any of those BSOD on my SG within the few hours of gaming i had on this laptop. We'll see. But if it's a common problem probably a BIOS/EC update could fix this. But maybe you have a faulty 970M

 

That's weird, i checked sager website and they offered the same 1080p ips matte screen.
15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Sager IPS Screen(SKU - SSC878)- [ETA: Dec.19]

So from what I understand, the 1080p screen is already in stock with sager, the notebook will arrive at sager ard 19th, the screen will be installed then ship to customer?

 

My display is definitely randomly changing in brightness/ backlight levels are going up and down, even when I'm not on battery. Does anyone have an idea why the hell this is happening? It's so frustrating.

Adaptive brightness is off in Windows, and I also turned off the option in the Intel control panel to reduce screen brightness to save power. I also made it so that the brightness is always at 100%. Either the display is on 100%, or it turns itself off if I haven't done anything for 10 minutes.

I was thinking at first that I might just be imagining it, but I'm not. When I'm looking at a white background, it's really obvious. Or when I start watching a video in fullscreen, the brightness will change after a few seconds. The brightness settings in the hotkeys is always at max (no icon appears onscreen when the brightness seems to change), but something in the display is changing on its own.

A quick Google search just gives me lots of results of people who need to turn off adaptive brightness in Windows. Not much help... :/

Anyone? Please?

 

check your intel and nvidia drivers for display options pertaining to adaptive brightness, maybe thats where the culprit lies...

 

In that case, certainly hoping I can manage to get them to swap in the newer card!

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Yes : NVIDIA PRISM

 

All I see for that on Google is a bunch of stuff about Tegra chips and the Nvidia shield. Are you sure it applies to mobile GeForce GPUs?

At this stage I've:
-Disabled adaptive brightness in Windows, and made sure it's disabled for all power profiles
-Disabled power reduction for the screen in the Intel control panel
-Also disabled film mode and contrast improvement in the Intel panel
-Disabled the SensrSvc service, which changes the brightness of the display based on lighting conditions
-Opened the control center for the laptop (by holding Fn+Esc) and changed Energy Saving mode to "performance". I have no idea if it affects screen dimming, but it's worth a shot.
-Looked for any kind of relevant option in the Nvidia control panel. All I see is "power management mode", but it seems that it only affects GPU clocks and performance, not the display brightness. Plus, it's not like my 980M is running most of my programs anyway, on which I'm seeing dimming (Steam, WordPad, Firefox outside of videos, etc.).

So I'm pretty much stumped at this stage.

 

I think you need to return or exchange your laptop.

Looks like you did most everything. Double check out this page though: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6042-adaptive-brightness-turn-off-windows-8-a.html

But so far it sounds like you may have a lemon. I would definitely get with your reseller and get it exchanged.

 

Really? Already? I mean, I've certainly got some problems, some minor, and the BSOD being potentially major, but what makes you so sure?

 

BSOD with a new laptop... not good. Aren't you the one with the ID41 error too?

 

Thanks. Yeah, I've done everything on there, except option 2, which involves the charms menu. My computer is in French, but I'm definitely in the right place, and the brightness option simply isn't there:

It should be above "Ecran" and "Veille", which correspond to "screen" and "sleep". I turned the SensrSvc onto automatic and rebooted, thinking that might have an effect, but the brightness option still isn't there.

Weird.

Yes, I am. The BSOD was a driver problem, and was also reported as an ID41 error in the Event Journal. So I don't know if the first non-BSOD ID41 error was linked to it or not.

I just don't understand why the hell so many things are going wrong. The laptop plays games great, and I'm pretty damn sure I know how to install Windows and a set of drivers correctly (I bought my SSD separately and did my install myself).

I don't want to return, but I'm losing patience. I probably should.

 

Ok, didn't see you got that error fixed. Try to do new install of Intel video drivers, get the Clevo drivers here: 藍天Clevo

Or directly from here: Clevo - Intel VGA P650SE

It's a slow download, but will get there eventually.

 

Thanks for all the tips. I've checked my event viewer as well, and I also have multiple (4) ID41 events in the past week alone, each associated with a BSOD. They are exactly the same, and are labeled Kernel-Power.

Additionally, may I receive a confirmation as to whether a 1.5V memory will work and reasonably be expected to be stable? I wouldn't mind being able to use my 16GB 1.5V memory rather than staying with an 8GB memory. Perhaps that will help the issue...

 

EDIT: The BSOD error isn't fixed persay (to early to say), but the source of it seems pretty clear according to minidump (either Synaptics drivers or Avast Antivirus).

OK, thanks. How do I go about uninstalling the old drivers? Just through "uninstall a program"?

You know, I restarted my computer a while ago, and now everything seems fine. Whether on battery or not, the brightness seems to be staying the same. Before, brightness clearly went down when I switched to a black/ grey screen, and went back up when switching to a predominantly bright one.

Perhaps one of the changes I made actually had an effect?

I guess the best thing to do is keep an eye on things, and then reinstall the Intel HD drivers if I notice a problem again.

 

Packed and shipped with an ETA of Wednesday, now that's some service!!

 

Mine has started to be built!

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

This is the 970m correct?

 

You'll get it tomorrow or Monday. Trust me.

 

I'm gonna ring them very soon. Didn't get a reply to my email but I definitely want a Killer 1525 in my machine!

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Correct, P650SE with 970m and Sharp 4K display

 

I called them. It should arrive with a Killer 1525 card now

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

I believe they are the exact same screen, its just the default screen on the NP8652 and an upgrade option on the NP8651.

Edit: Verified with Sager they are currently the exact same screens. On our site we list LG specifically on the NP8651 and not the NP8652. Updating that now to avoid the confusion.

 

Scan have confirmed 1525 in my laptop. In fact, apparently the 1202 is actually incompatible with the motherboard so I was guaranteed a 1525 anyway!

Edit: laptop is now built and at the installing software stage! Next step is the 24 hour burn-in test.

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

They are not doing 24h test for laptops. They'll test it with usual benchmark softwares. That's it.

 

Ah OK, I don't mind. It means I'll get it sooner

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

I saw my P150SM order going build to shipping in 4hrs.

 

They sent me the details of the screen...

B156HAN01

Not sure if it's worth getting or just going for the 3k ips they offer tbh..it's not a huge cost difference either way.

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

 

Hello guys i am new member here and i read all post from start to end and i interested sager laptops.
I really love gaming and i cant buy desktop because of mobility so i'm interested gaming laptop and sager laptops currently give me best deal with good price and i want to ask questions

1. Does heat goes really up while playing?
2. Does air flow is good? in and out? (because of dust you know)
BTW i'm interested NP8652(p650sg) with GTX980m

And i really like this community hope you guys welcome me and English is not my native language so i hope we can communicate without problem.

 

A gaming laptop need to be cleaned once in a while to preserve a good air flow.

regarding the P650SG the heat does goes up (it's physic, electronic laws ) but NO overheat.