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    *** Official Clevo P65xSA/SE/SG / Sager NP8650/51/52 Owner´s Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jaybee83, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    Odd, I got HDD/SSD screws with mine.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
    Cakefish, Jan 20, 2015
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    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    It's going to be seller dependent. Sager resellers typically ship with all hardware required for any drive installation. Direct sellers may do a bit differently though. Always best to ask the place you buy from.
     
    Support.1@XOTIC PC, Jan 20, 2015
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    jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist

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    The famous violà! Glad that you figured it out mate, keep us posted about your oc results!
     
    jeanjackstyle, Jan 20, 2015
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  5. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Boot into safe mode, uninstall nvidia driver, reboot into safe mode, flash card again, reboot, reinstall driver.

    And relax, you can even flash your holiday pictures into the vBIOS area and it won't brick, it's impossible on this system. Believe me I did everything possible to it. :)
     
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  6. jeanjackstyle

    jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist

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    jeanjackstyle, Jan 20, 2015
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    I am waiting for those Batmen to break this score, sadly. At least I know my system runs like a champ when doing work.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jan 20, 2015
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    bmac1632 Notebook Guru

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  9. jeanjackstyle

    jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist

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    That is ok, I expect a 4790k to shatter a 4710hq, even at same gpu. You said turboboost hit 3.5, did you oc cpu in any way?
     
    jeanjackstyle, Jan 20, 2015
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  10. LoneSyndal

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    Nope. It used to be an issue of throttling or HQ processor dropping from max turboboost (which mine should be 3.6GHz). Most of my tests were ran at 3.4GHz. Only that specific one went above due to possibly having a bit more power than the other tests. Notice that the graphics score dropped a few points but went up everywhere else when comparing my two top runs. (9360 and 9346)

    Once that Dell adapter comes in... I'm gonna see if I can break 9700.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jan 20, 2015
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  11. jeanjackstyle

    jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist

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    Haha the race is on! Got your point, I forgot you had 4720. With this one multiplier for 3/4 cores is 34 correct?
     
    jeanjackstyle, Jan 20, 2015
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  12. LoneSyndal

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    Yeah. Thus why most of my tests were within the 3.4 GHz range.

    It shouldnt be too hard to do on your own. Everything you need is either on these forums or on TI Forums.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jan 20, 2015
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  13. jeanjackstyle

    jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist

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    So you think in this one most of the time you had 2 cores active?
     
    jeanjackstyle, Jan 20, 2015
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  14. LoneSyndal

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    I think it went to 2 cores only during the Combined and Physics test. How my laptop did it on its own is a mystery. The XTU at the time read most of it at 3.4.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jan 20, 2015
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  15. jeanjackstyle

    jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist

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    Did you try to play with cpu? Can you overclock it without hitting power throttling ?
     
    jeanjackstyle, Jan 20, 2015
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  16. LoneSyndal

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    I never power throttled with the P650SG. Even when GPU is overclocked and CPU hitting 93C, no throttling at all. The crashes happen outside of XTU.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jan 20, 2015
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  17. jeanjackstyle

    jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist

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    Interesting. In the p35x it is instantaneous, setting the 3/4 cores multiplier to 34 and huge power throttling pikes occur in XTU benchmark / unigine heaven
     
    jeanjackstyle, Jan 20, 2015
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  18. LoneSyndal

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    It was one of the original reasons why I returned the P35X-CF1. Couldn't make full use of the CPU, power adapter was insufficient, and a hardcoded throttle limit. That and the constant driver failures.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jan 20, 2015
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  19. jrtwister15

    jrtwister15 Notebook Enthusiast

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    dose anyone have the problem where the bezel on the screen is not making full contact with the screen and there is a gap when you look at it from the side?
     
    jrtwister15, Jan 20, 2015
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  20. LoneSyndal

    LoneSyndal Notebook Deity

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    Only on the bottom for me. Seems to just be that way for the few I've seen. The other three sides are tight on my end.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jan 20, 2015
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  21. itsavw

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    If anyone wants to upgrade to the Killer Wireless-AC N1525 M.2. module I suggest buying it through HIDEvolution. They sell it for $55 plus shipping whereas Sager wants $85 plus shipping (XoticPC quoted me this price and I assume this was from Sager).

    I'm having spikes with my Intel 7265 as reported by other owners of these Intel Wireless cards, I initially wanted the Killer card however when I ordered my P650SE they didn't have it as an option until the next day and my parts change didn't go through before the system shipped.

    I also have another 256GB 850 Pro SSD sitting next to me waiting to be put into RAID-0. I realized I needed the extra storage and should have gotten a 512 but RAID is always an option and I believe these drives are extremely reliable. The extra 3mm in the P650SG sure is handy since it allows you to stack a 7mm SSD with a 9mm HDD, rather than being limited to one 9mm or two 7mm.
     
    itsavw, Jan 20, 2015
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  22. LoneSyndal

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    I can safely say that I had zero ping spikes or connectivity issues on wireless with the 1525AC. I havent tested Bluetooth though (I dont normally use BT) and may have to check that soon enough.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jan 20, 2015
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  23. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Hmm, just got my P650SE and set it up. I tried a few games (Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2) and the system refuses to use the GTX 970m. I can set it in the nvidia control panel, but it still won't use the 970. Once I close the control panel and open it up, it has reverted all my choices back to the integrated GPU. Right-clicking the games and choosing "run with..." still won't use the 970.

    I tried with the graphics driver that came with the laptop, and then with the latest 347.09 drivers - same thing.
     
    Ramzay, Jan 20, 2015
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  24. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Nevermind, fixed it. Downloaded Display Driver Uninstaller from Guru3d, wiped all traces of previous drivers, re-installed, all is good now.
     
    Ramzay, Jan 20, 2015
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    uninstall the nvidia driver, uninstall iGPU driver and pull the newest one from intel and start over again
     
    heibk201, Jan 20, 2015
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  26. edwardamin13

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    edwardamin13, Jan 21, 2015
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  27. jeanjackstyle

    jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist

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    By the way LoneSyndal, did you try to game with these overclocking settings? Cakefish reported settings stables only In several applications, seeing artifacts in others
     
    jeanjackstyle, Jan 21, 2015
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  28. jrtwister15

    jrtwister15 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a interesting problem with mine when it's just sitting on the table and the fans start stop start stop 2 to 3 times and happens quite often anyone have any idea what it could be?
    thanks
     
    jrtwister15, Jan 21, 2015
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  29. ptcjr

    ptcjr Newbie

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    Triple external monitor setup help... So I tried to use all 3 external monitor ports and when I try to select them (have my laptop closed so it disables the built in display) it doesn't allow me to. Intel will only allow me to select two external monitors. So far, the only work around I had was to use the wireless display option (intel widirect or whatever it is called). Does anyone know of or have a better solution for driving 3 external displays?

    Thanks in advance.
     
    ptcjr, Jan 21, 2015
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    I dont remember the voltage at the time...

    I wouldnt due to lack of power. Once I can confirm that the new adapter can run stable at higher clocks, it should be fine. Artifacting means Cakefish pushed the memory up too high.
     
    LoneSyndal, Jan 21, 2015
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    Please describe the monitors and cable setup, cheers.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 21, 2015
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    Monitor 1: ACER G237HL 1920 x 1080 60HZ Connected to Laptop HDMI Port via Monitor HDMI Port (Cable)
    Monitor 2: ACER G237HL 1920 x 1080 60HZ Connected to Laptop Display Port via Monitor HDMI Port to HDMI Cable to HDMI / display port adapter
    Monitor 3: Older Acer 1680 x 1050 (for some reason showing 59 HZ) Conncted to Laptop Display Port via Monitor DVI Output to Cable with DVI to HDMI converter into HDMI / Display port adapter

    Thanks

    Peter
     
    ptcjr, Jan 21, 2015
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    ptcjr Newbie

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    I forgot to mention. Individually I can select and use each monitor in the settings or any combination of two of them. I just can't select 3 when I do it doesn't allow me to save that specific configuration.
     
    ptcjr, Jan 21, 2015
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  34. amsterdamer

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    Which GPU?

    Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
     
    amsterdamer, Jan 21, 2015
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  35. Ramzay

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    Same happens to me.
     
    Ramzay, Jan 21, 2015
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  36. Meaker@Sager

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    One of them needs to be native displayport or you need to use an active converter. The card can only produce 2 display clock signals.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 21, 2015
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    my 7265 has zero lag spikes...in BF4 for instance.
     
    wickette, Jan 21, 2015
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    ptcjr, Jan 21, 2015
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    Have been happening to me lately aswell. First month it never happened, but now fans start and stop randomly when I'm just surfing.

    Any ideas?
     
    joakimbo, Jan 21, 2015
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    How did you get the cpu to not throttle? mine nevers go above 75 degrees when gaming cuz it goes down to 2,5 ghz :/
     
    IceBounds, Jan 21, 2015
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  41. jaybee83

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    yupyup, most definitely the beginning of dust build-up inside the system. after a while its normal that more and more dust gets stuck in the heatsink fins, thus the system heats up faster, once the temp threshhold is reached the fans start spinning until the temp falls below that threshhold and they switch off again.

    dust buildup varies by the location, temperature, humidity, general enrivonment the machine is placed in. if theres no sign of dust whatsoever when u open up the machine, then it could also be related to your specific fan settings in the hotkey program, different auto fan profiles due to different system bios / EC flashed or maybe also degradation of the TIM used for GPU and CPU.

    cheers
     
    jaybee83, Jan 21, 2015
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    I was just gonna say, either you have dust piling up or it's time for an EC update
     
    heibk201, Jan 21, 2015
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  43. Ramzay

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    Mine is brand new and I'm having this issue.

    What's EC?
     
    Ramzay, Jan 21, 2015
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  44. joakimbo

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    Alright! But just after a month? :eek: Actually, I use the computer a lot in the sofa etc, so probably that's the reason
     
    joakimbo, Jan 21, 2015
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  45. Ramzay

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    Hmm, do you guys find your updated bios directly on the Sager website? Or do you just use Prema's mods?
     
    Ramzay, Jan 21, 2015
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  46. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    There is the sticky on the main forum page. ( Link)
     
    Support.1@XOTIC PC, Jan 21, 2015
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    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Ah yes, cleverly hidden in plain sight.
     
    Ramzay, Jan 21, 2015
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  48. jrtwister15

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    on mine I don't think it is dust because I just got it Monday and the fans that do the on and off are from the gpu side so any other ideas ???
     
    jrtwister15, Jan 21, 2015
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    I'm trying to decide between the Intel 7265 and the killer 1525. Has anyone done a benchmark between the two? I'm interested on knowing how do they compare on throughput a far distance, and power consumption. On the driver side, any issues with any of the two? Thanks.
     
    forbitel, Jan 21, 2015
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  50. edwards4425

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    Sorry quite old, but going through old posts as I consider purchasing. With no overclocking is the ic diamond thermal paste even necessary?
     
    edwards4425, Jan 21, 2015
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