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You can in fact stack an 7mm ssd with a HDD as long as the HDD is also 7 mm. This is what I am using (better drive than stock as it is SATA 3 and also 7200 rpm)

 

Are you sure that is the right link? Aren't you talking about Travelstar Z7K500? Because that is the only 7mm 7200rpm HDD (Does anyone know another one?)

 

Ugh, not sure why that link isn't working, looks like it's defaulting to amazon.ca...weird
Anyway, here is the link written out: (It's 50% off too!)

Amazon.com: HGST Travelstar 2.5-Inch 500GB 7200RPM SATA III 32MB Cache SATA 6Gbps Internal Bare or OEM Drives (HTS725050A7E630): Computers & Accessories

 

I know that i've asked this question a few times, but still. I have throttle issues and its annoying as ****. I i've tested the stock bios, premas bios and the new updated bios from clevo and still get the same throttle issues.
the temp is around 50 - 65 degrees so it aint the temp. the gpu is just +135 & +200 so it should have enough power from the stock psu.

heres an example: Gyazo - 34185de20ce88cca3f87ea5495216f41.png

Should i RMA it?

 

Did you try disabling turboboost?

 

No i have not. i've tested disabling HT though. Will try when i get home.

Any more thoughts?

 

No i have not. i've tested disabling HT though. Will try when i get home.

Any more thoughts?

Update: although, if i disable Turboboost, i will get 2,5 ghz. which is slow as hell

 

What? CPU throttling issues? What exactly are you trying to do with it?

 

When i play different games, i get freezes once every 5 minute or so, and then i saw this graph and though that was the problem. the cpu goes up and down in freq and is very annoying.
(tbh, i dont really get what your question is )

 

Freezes once every 5 seconds huh...

Online gaming or offline gaming? Or both?

Have you attempted switching to "high performance" (locks CPU to max turbo) before gaming to see if it helps?

Have you tried without the OC on your GPU?

Are you on Windows 8.1?

 

hmmm...not sure if the cpu throttling actually causes the freezes or if a different component in ur rig causes the freezes and in turn the cpu to downclock!

have u done storage / ram stability testing?

 

**5 minute ish** depends from game to game

Yes i have. Will try again though.

Yes i have

indeed i am.

 

Hm, alright. I have not done any testing on those. Wait, should there be 1,5v or 1,35v RAM?
The ssd is brand new, but will test it out.

Any recommended programs to use?

Thank you and D2 btw

 

Gonna try something. Download Throttlestop 6.00 from here

Extract, run, hit "turn on", then close. Go to the folder you extracted it to. Find throttlestop.ini and add these two following lines as I typed them:
TimePeriodAC=1
TimePeriodDC=16

Save, exit, run TS6, turn it on, minimize it (you can minimize to system tray if you want like I do) and try playing games. See if it works. You can un-check Clock Modulation, Chipset Clock Mod and Set Multiplier if you wish, and just leave it "on". Up to you entirely. Tell me if this fixes your intermittent freezing issue. If it does, simply launch TS6 and minimize every time you turn on your PC and you're golden.

 

ideally 1.35V RAM, but 1.5V sticks have been shown to work, although it could be a source of instability.

u can use memtest for checking ur ram sticks. best to let it run overnight to make 100% sure theyre all free of errors.

as for ssd testing, u might want to use something like AIDA disk stress test or similar. just make sure u dont use the most write-intensive test out there in order not to use up ur write cycles

 

Have tried Throttlestop, but will try your method tonight.

Hm, so 1,35v isnt required? Alright ill test them both asap.

Thanks so far

 

Yes only 1.35V is supplied to the ram in mobile haswell systems, so you are overclocking the sticks by undervolting them (in stability terms) so you enter the silicon lottery at that point.

 

Isn't this considered normal for i7-HQ chips?

And I wasn't aware Clevo released a new updated BIOS - what's the version and EC?

 

Will prema be re-releasing the unlocked BIOS with this new revision that came out?

 

im sure he will once he finds the time iirc hes on travels atm

 

Is it the 1.03.05TTR you are referring to on XMG's site? Does anybody actually know what is updated/changed? Wish they would include a simple readme with the changes - always so much mystery!

 

Anyone have a link to the new revision though?

That's not really new though, came out around 10 days ago

 

Guys yesterday I ordered this laptop but I have some question before it arrives.

I ordered 2*4gb Kingston HyperX in which slot should I put them? The two under the keyboard or the other 2 on the back.

I also ordered an Samsung 850 Evo and the Hitachi Travelstar Z7K500, they are both 7mm so they can fit together. Which sata slot is the primary or doesn't it matter?

Thanks guys.

 

I'm also in the same situation but with a Crucial MX100 256GB. My question would be which one do i put on top, because technically it gets better air flow right?

 

Put the memory sticks either both under keyboard or both on the bottom.

SATA 0 is the physically lower mounting position. So, with the laptop upside down sata 0 will be the top drive in the cage assy. You can opt to boot from any of the sata ports though. Hope that makes sense.

 

There is no TimePeriodAC/DC in the .ini folder :S

 

"Find throttlestop.ini and add these two following lines"

 

Thanks man! seems to made it alot better

 

THIS can be fixed with a bios/ec and hotkey software update

 

I apologize if this has already been asked a million times. I am going to buy a NP8651 and really cannot decide whether to get the Glossy 4k screen or Matte IPS screen. Money is not an issue. I do not play games, just a programmer/designer who does intense applications.

Normally I use my laptop hooked up to a big 27" LED monitor but at night I unplug it and use it as a laptop to program. It's not very rare I go outside.

So I know this decision comes down to Glossy vs Matte AND 4K vs 1080 IPS.

Any thoughts or good rationale on which I should go with?

Here are some of my misc thoughts:

-The only reason I can see going with 4k is to future-proof the laptop a bit as I don't really have anything 4k but don't want to feel like I should have bought the 4k in 2 years.
-On the other hand, if Windows and applications look horrible in 4k, I rather have the non-4k.
-I also saw some people on here have the Glossy 4k screen but a matte cover on it? Are these any good for anti-glare? The glare on the glossy sort of scares me.

 

After having used both glossy and matte screens extensivly, I can say I will never go to glossy again. Having no glare on a matte screen is terific and as a result the screen is visible even at minimum brightness when indoors no matter what. As for 4k or no 4k, I'd stay with 1080. It's not like 1080P will be "outdated" anytime soon. Besides, what content are you watching in 4k? 4k content availability is very low, gaming in 4k is impractical and a lot of programs (including some windows menus) don't scale well at all! Just not worth it in my opinion. However, what might be worth it is a 3k 3200*1800 screen. At that resolution, you don't have to scale (if you have good vision) and games scale perfectly to 900p which still looks brilliant in games. Also at 900p you will get more fps

 

It's really going to come down to your personal preferences on those. I personally wouldn't go for a 4k Display at this time but if you're thinking the long game it might be beneficial to either get now and deal with scaling until better support is developed (Win 10) or get with 1080 and install/send in for install of the 4k later. Not stuck with the option if you get it with right now and it's possible that even better options may be available in the future to choose from.

Glossy vs matte: I used to not care but after having a nice matte display on my machine I don't think I'll ever go back to Glossy. I don't normally use it in bright environments where glare is a problem but there have been those handful of times that I have and if it were glossy I would've been very annoyed with that glare. Makes it worth it to me. Looking at glossy now it just seems too bright to me but a matte filter typically helps to dull that a bit.

 

They're good, and seeing I am the only one with it and have been using it daily, can vouch for how great it is. If you dont need anything 4K, then keep 1080p as no benefits for gaming and such on 4K.

 

THANK YOU for the feedback Sebi97, Derek, and LoneSynda!

That's exactly the type of feedback I was hoping for (especially regarding matte vs glossy) and you definitely leave no doubt in my mind to go with the IPS matte over the 4k glossy, which was the way I was leaning. I appreciate you sharing your personal experiences!

 

Now I am curious:

To all the semi-enthusiasts here with the P65XSG and GTX 980M. Has anyone managed a stable overclock above +180/380? (Stable as in: No stutters, artifacting, ect.

If so, what are your drivers? vBIOS/BIOS? Voltage?

I have been trying for the longest time and only returning with crashes above 200/380 (400 has artifacted slightly and have decided against using that)

 

You're very welcome. Let us know if you have anything else come up.

BTW... I'm just going to assume you're a husker fan which means bonus points.

 

Sorry wrong place

 

Hey guys,

Just received my Clevo P650SE, its looks absolutely fantastic!

I made a bootable Win8.1 and installed it, no problems there. My issue now is drivers, being the Clevo model. Are the Schenker P505 drivers in the first post of this thread fine to use?

I emailed my distributor and they said they can only recommend the Clevo site ones.... the downside is, the Clevo website links time out/don't work.

 

You can use Sager drivers, same thing really. Sager NP8651 is what you're looking for.

 

Ok I might head over there for safety then. I've been reading in this thread and many people recommend updating the BIOS/EC too, whether it be with Premamod or the official, I assume the BIOS update from Sager will also work fine with the Clevo.

 

Schenker or any others should be fine. Its just the BIOS where you will want to get picky, and you won't need to worry about that while installing drivers.

 

Ok, well that's good then! Because I got a little excited whilst I waited for the Courier to deliver it I downloaded all of those Schenker drivers and the latest GPU drivers from the Nvidia site, so its nice to know I can just use what I got.

I'll just wait it out for the Clevo BIOS/EC links to be working though.

 

if the drivers from schenker werent fine i wouldnt have linked them in the OP

 

I like your style.

 

I'll be getting my RMA'd P650SG back Thursday. It appears my stuttering issues were caused by a bad SSD. Prostar ran through all of the possible troubleshooting steps (including updating BIOS/EC) and found the issue was only occurring with my Crucial MX100. They replaced my drive and they are no longer seeing the stuttering.

Can't wait to run some tests Thursday!

 

If someone have problems with wifi, mysn released following information:

The condensed meaning in english: actual killer cards doesnt really fit into the m.2 port, and they can shift a little out on transportation, resulting in instability and not working wifi. Mysn is not selling these cards to its customers until this is fixed from qualcomm...

just FYI

 

My wifi card hasnt slipped out yet. Been moving around with it every day for miles with my bag slinging on one side.

 

maybe its just a batch of cards they got...
as i wrote, just for your information...

 

glad to hear u finally got that sorted out. so it wasnt the cpu after all

 

Never heard of a SSD causing stuttering though is quite strange, isn't it?