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Only 5 pages in this thread with most questions asked and people are STILL lazy rofl -dies-

I swear to god I"m opening the > 2 lb club, these people w/ the frail hands and their god damn mathematical % values on thinness ( OCD 2.0 IS REAL PEOPLE ) there are NO men on this forum I'm guessing, and here 1 tiny woman sports around a normal 6lb laptop around work every day.

My question for the thread, is why do we need to IN EVERY response, feel the need to REMIND everyone for the 100000000000th time the EXACT % , the EXACT same annoyances, how much life is better because of X % difference because you've seen the future and know that the 0.34lbs would have landed you in the emergency room with family rushing to your aid while lawyers ninja their way to Clevo HQ to attempt yet another dangerous lawsuit for your honor.

Where is your calcium? Where are your daily vitamins? Do you hydrate? Are you in constant sick health, is your FAMILY doctor aware of issues with your body? Do you realize that under 10lbs really isn't much. If they make 3-10 lbs weights for women only because we don't bulk up ? That says something.

Yeah I'm asking serious questions , no jokes intended because people here have me genuinely concerned at times that this forum is home to a large % of hospitalized individuals in which case IF so I would like to DONATE to whatever study is aiding the research and development to aid their bone marrow, or w/e they need.


Next stop asking questions about something we don't have, think before you ask seriously because you have no idea how dumb you can feel after realizing/reading the words that come out of your fingers. You wouldn't walk into a store and ask how the a new car thats in a prototype phase due out in a few years will fare against a specific car model on the road. Noones going to know that crap not even the engineers, because noones used it yet.

This is a preorder/waiting phase, noone hast he model.

Next!

The bashing and complaints are fine, people (intelligent ones) WILL GENUINELY HAVE CONCERNS HOWEVER do not be the bag that doesn't understand context, read's a comment from n=1,meaker,wingnut, and ONLY filters out negative words. The words "possibly, might, worry, maybe, could, and chance" are words you should fill your vocabulary with.

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, quote yahoo answers, CNET, or any other crap site, ESPECIALLY if its from a comment someone made, and try to flame up the thread or warn of the apocalypse because some troll thought they'd light a match.

Bottom line
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Seriously we're all excited here, we expect idiots, lovers, newbies, consumers, those wanting to take their first step to a real laptop, tech guru's, wisemen, blind people ( because you can't brail till you've brailed on a clevo) and trolls.

Whatever you are, we accept you, however please DO note, that depending on which type you are, we all have a way of dealing/responding to you.

So with that out of the way, I'm Luna, nice to meet you, I can be very blunt at times, I mean no harm, however I will ensure or do my best to educate or get a point across, I will join in for a horse beating time to time, if someone needs it that bad. If you're bad w/ sarcasm, I'm sorry but its the internet, you're welcome to cry to me in a PM though, if I've damaged you that badly then I may be inclined to apologize and refer you to your nearest health provider/therapist <3

Anywhoo,

With that all said, I'm sure Jay or anyone else here may perform a tl;dr Luna version.

P.S

People to know

HTWingnut - If he says it he probably gave birth to it, or was in the room when it was given birth too. So do take what he says as wisdom, he is in no means here to kill your family, only share wisdom, suggestions and more.

Meaker - Mysterious Meaker... Anything joked about from their end probably has been done but might be within a NDA term, so jokes are the best way of giving that hint. Other than that ALSO within the realm of the Nut ^

Jaybee - LN2 Enthusiast *frozen* likes to take a dip in it after promoting MGM - Delidding nut enthusiast, if you've got Q's about CPU's and walking the line between destruction and pure goodness, this is your beast!

N=1 - Very good with math apparently, please do NOT misunderstand their concerns or any rants, they HAVE plausible grounds to state their concerns, opinions and more which is up to others with near knowledge to shed light on or their standpoint.

Bigspin = Forum Sales Ninja - If there's ever a deal or info that comes up, their 8th sense kicks in and populates a link or if you're lucky and they roll a critical, you'll get a tinyurl + bonus offer.

D2Ultima = Very savvy on the GPU world and other areas, will not hesitate to kill you, and is very fluent in troll communications.

 

Absolutely. That config costs £1527.49 with VAT. That equals $2400.73. Take 35% off that price to account for 20% VAT and also what I like to call the 'non-US tax' and you're left with $1560

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Luna on a ROLL......

 

<3

 

@Luna it isn't the weight that bothers me, it's the size. Fact is, no matter how physically strong you are, you aren't gonna fit a bigger laptop in a small space (such as a fully packed suitcase) as you can with a considerably slimmer model. When I put my P170SM into my suitcase ready to take on the train, it takes up far more room than my Samsung - which means I can fit considerably less other stuff in there than I could with a slimmer, more compact laptop like the Samsung.

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Oh don't worry this wasn't in any ways aimed at you as far as weight lol. It's more to the people claiming the insane heaviness that the 0.35lbs adds.

As far as the p35x I take it you sent it back then, I haven't been following their thread since the meltdowns a few weeks ago, REALLY felt bad for you guys. Was a nice unit just a bit early for release I guess. v4 / v5 will probably come back swinging though.

 

Cakefish I don't mean to be rude, but you have to pick out the right tools for the job. I get the concern about thickness and usable space I really do, but this is where I tell people if that's your major concern, perhaps it'd be wise to look to thinner laptops (eg the PG651SG) that would suit your needs better. If you must get a laptop with a desktop CPU, a bigger carrying case might be in order.

tl;dr you can't have your cake and eat it too, well at least not without making compromises elsewhere anyway

 

thinking about opening a "best of luna rants" thread

 

Luna's rants are always the best. Especially when accompanied by various anime gifs and/or manga drawings.

 

I am getting the P651SG

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

clevo sell both P151ZM and P650SH why ? Because they are made for different kind of people :
The p751ZM is less slim, bulkier, but more powerful and made for (hyper) enthusiast users. Overall : they want to replace the old P150XX serie with near extinct non slim screens, no M.2, and noisy (not that efficient) cooling solutions.

if you prefer :
P650SG vs Gs60 (clevo wins)
P751ZM vs GT72/GT60 (we'll see)

Stop trolling people.

I prefer optimus, i prefer 60hz because 120hz screens are inexistant (i never play with 60+ fps, useless in my sense and extra heat ), and i prefer a slimmer chassis, that's personal not universal, some people need to understand that principle

 

I'm not sure how Clevo wins, it's down to personal choice on that one. I really enjoyed the GS60 that I reviewed. It's just a closed environment with very difficult to upgrade components, fans that never stop, and meager battery life. Otherwise everything else about it is top notch and comparable performance to the P650SE (not G, but E). And weighs a paltry 4 lbs.

Optimus isn't so bad, but for users that want better external vidoe options, manual switching graphics is what's needed. They're obviously making this laptop to cater to the more hard core gaming crowd who want expansion options, and that would be the icing on the cake. I don't know that Clevo has ever made one with manual switching graphics though. Now would be the time, but from any specs I've seen it looks like it's stuck with Optimus.

 

Lol damnit Wingnut just when I was drawing you, you changed your avatar XD oh well D2 warned me about this, once you get used to it, you change it. Ho Ho ho indeed..


As for your reviews, do you normally get contacted prior to a unit being shipped to you or given your status, do they just magically show up w/ a post card and a smiley face? lol

 

the gs60 heats more, is as expensive as the 980M version, hard repaste/change Hard disk etc and doesn't port an IPS screen (in Europe).

120fps constant is something unreal for a 980M gtx, so 100+hz...

 

its not all about gaming, you know same goes for high-res screens

 

As soon as I think I am done with Batman, it keeps pulling me back in. When do we expect the next round of info to hit?

Size doesn't matter to me. I only will be transporting it from A to B and back to A. I am hoping the the extra heft helps me lose a pound or two actually. My only concern is noise. If it isn't silent on idle, I will have to pick another laptop. I can't have this sound like a jet engine in my tiny apartment. My wife would kill me.

 

then it's about what ? , they sell it as a gaming pc not as a mainstream laptop.

 

next round of info? *checks opening date and time of this thread* last round of info came out about 29 hours ago, is it already time again?

as for fan noise at idle: the most current hotkey tool with the ability to customize fan profiles based on cpu usage should help a lot at idle, especially since mostly the cpu would be taxed in basic usages such as browser, streaming, etc...

a high-res screen with high refresh rate can be a game-changer when u use your personal machine for work every day and come home with your eyes more relaxed and unstrained than compared to a low-res low refresh rate screen (not to mention all that extra work space on the screen at 4K, wonderful! ) also, that same hardware sold for gaming can be veeeeery helpful when u deal with high-complexity non-linear regressional curve analysis/fitting, 3D protein modeling & interaction or simultaneous handling of 40-50 excel sheets, with thousands of individual data points each when i can save time calculating / rendering stuff on a scale measured in DAYS, then i really stop caring about having to handle an extra pound or two when carrying my machine to work and back home (which i didnt really in the first place )

cheers!

 

Usually I get contacted before. Sometimes just an "it's in the mail" email...

And yeah I do change my avatar a lot... Keep people guessing.

 

Will 17" be out in January too?

 

More than likely it will be announced BY january, after that its either at earliest end of the month OR latest sometime in February. However we SHOULD hear some info shortly after the 15" variant begins shipping. However as of current there isn't much information to go by unless our bigspin ninja fires another round in here.

 

Scan says the 17" version is available in Jan for delivery... So it's definetly confirmed.. Now I need to get my money together...

 

Fine by me, but 1080p is not a low-res screen, it's a lowER resolution screen, 1080p on a 15" gives you a great PPI count in my opinion, i study/work in CAD/3d design, coding and simulation/ modelling too several hours per day , what suits me (for working) is: SEVERAL screens not one high res screen personnally, i use my 15" + a 23" 1080p ips samsung display.

 

Then go do that <3

Pointless argument is pointless

As for Clevo selling as a gaming machine, I'd invite you to their website where it actually depicts the same models under both gaming, production, and others. They like to categorize what each are best used in, and many of which are listed under multiple categories. The RESELLER might be advertising it as a gaming machine, but clevo itself doesn't really advertise, just so we have that cleared up. I hope you don't consider 1 reseller acting on behalf of the entire Clevo corporation now

Ah must've missed that, my apologies and good stuff!

 

still kinda shocked at the info that sager might not even be offering batman...i mean, double u tea eff? are they turning their backs on mobile enthusiasts now? really weird...

anyways, got my amazon wishlist together now finger is already itching to press the order button, but gonna wait and see mysn's pricing and config options first, especially concerning cpu and possible psu upgrades.

- 4790k
- phobya 7w/mk thermal pads
- high-temp resistant black silicone sealant (for IHS)
- high-temp resistant electrolube protective silicone sealant (for VRMs)
- clevo 330w psu
- some super-sharp double edge jaguar razor blades
- CL liquid ultra with cleaning utensils

itchy itchy scratchy baby!

ps: if theres sufficient demand for it, i might document the cpu delidding and do a before/after review of temps/oc clocks in batman

 

I already have SSD, 2tb hdd, Phobya xt thermal pads & Gelid Extreme.I'm going to buy Clevo P37x series 330w PSU from Scan.

 

yep, my 850 pro and corsair vengeance ram are also waiting to be reinstalled and used properly same with gelid extreme might do a mini-review/comparison between it, liquid ultra, ocz freeze and ic diamond, since theyve been building up here these past years whats scan charging for the psu? schenker has them on amazon for 89€ incl. shipping

 

How much is that PSU worth from Scan? Was wondering if they would take some extra money initally and provide a 330W PSU instead of the 230W...

 

Oh that's interesting news? And even if so there's still tons of other vendors that know their masses, curious what might've sparked that decision OR even possibility.

As for Thermal pads, once you get machine, let me know the proper size needed. Would hate to have 1.0 when I need 0.5 and vice versa, as that 0.5 can easily make or short something.

 

yeah thats what i wanna check as well with schenker. if they already include the 330w psu upgrade in their configuraror i might just include it in my preorder. otherwise ill stick to amazon

@luna: tbh, so far ive always used 1mm for everything and its worked quite nicely either stack them up or squish them a lil whenever needed...

 

Yeah.. I have 2133 hyperx impact as well. Scan charge £86+£4 delivery charge. I'm going to contact scan and ask them about possibility of giving 330w PSU for little extra.

 

+200 to the demand. I DEMAND it (please, please please --- and thank you)

 

@ Luna

Usually it's 1mm pads you need. But sometimes for small parts you need 1.5 mm. Best thing to do is purchase 2x 1mm and 1x 0.5mm. Stack them together if you need thicker pad.

 

Bigspin, what number do you use to contact Scan's retail sales guys? Only number I can find is the tech support line one : 01204 474756

Does this get you through to Sales?

 

0871 - 472 - 4747 or 01204 474747

If you order it now they are giving free Asus Vulcun Headset worth £59. I might contact them tomorrow to ask about that and to add Killer 1525 card to my order.

 

Thanks mate... BTW do you know that if you pre order now, do you need to make payment now or do they take it when they ship it to you? The thing is I don't mind pre-ordering now but I just don't have the money yet... In Jan once the date is confirmed, I can sell my AW and have the money...

 

They will charge your card, but I think they only do the authorisation, so basically cash will come back to your account after week. I paid via PayPal, so PayPal took money from my bank acc today.

 

Slightly OT... Jaybee, where did you buy your RAM? Do you know a place in the EU where I could buy 16/32 gigs and spare some bucks?

 

Hmm are the Killer cards worth it at all? I remember for the longest people would jump on you if they saw it in your config telling you to go w/ the 7260 instead, have the issues been fixed or is it being speculated ? I"m guessing the 1525 is the newest?

 

I used Killer 1103/1202 cards and found they are very reliable. Got few driver issues but they fixed it. Anyway I never use Killer software suite which sometimes mess your net connection. I only use generic Atheros drivers.
Edit: Yes 1525 is the new card with wifi AC standard.

 

So they'll take money whichever way before they ship? Well that means no pre-ordering for me.. I'll try calling and asking tomorrow to see if something can be arranged...

 

You might be able to pull something. Anyway I'm going to send them a mail about free gift and upgrade to Killer 1525 WiFi card.

 

Thanks bigspin, took a quick gander and seems Wingnut and HTP did a review on it as well and the thing performs solid, guess I"ll go w/ killer vs intel http://forum.notebookreview.com/networking-wireless/762767-killer-n1525-wireless-ac.html

 

how about COD - cash on delivery? thats how ill do it with mysn. costs u like 5-10€ extra but totally worth it if u ask me

@bigspin & luna: might take a closer look at that killer 1525, so far i was going for the 7265...

@redbytes: i got mine from jakob-computer, a german online shop. whats ur location? there are some price comparison sites i know of that search EU wide, such as www.geizhals.de oder www.heise.de

usually, the sites i use for electronics shopping are www.idealo.de, ebay and amazon.
idealo being the one where i also found a suitable offer for the ram from jakob-computer

 

Thx jaybee - nice prices, around 20-30 € lower than in my country - which is Italy btw.

Regarding the Killer Wifi card, it should be a total no-go on Linux. AFAIK they don't even have a plan to support these cards in OSs other than Windows, so if you plan to use Linux avoid Killer like hell. A (not too smart ) friend of mine bought a MSI with Killer for Linux development and well, now he's totally screwed - both ethernet and WiFi not working under Linux.

 

Killer cards use Atheros WiFi chips. Can't you use generic Atheros Linux drivers? Unless Killer cards are firmware locked to windows.

 

Sorry but , I don't get the whole Batman hysteria the machine in no way reminds me of the dark knight I stumbled on here to even find a huge batman screen image almost as if WB themselves were involved !

" Holy copyright patent "




Was happy to discover from the other zm thread that Sager has verified that the cpu desktop will be coming to the states as planned around January with 15in/17in models confirmed. Cant wait to get a price from my local vendors namely xotic pc and lpc digital since they have the most decent prices for my location. 2015 is the year of the notebook lol.

 

I don't think so, it's worth giving a shot. But the intel is likely a better idea.

 

blasphemy!

yep, sager made the right move to announce such a thing officially in the community here, otherwise it wouldve been kind of a commercial enthusiast suicide

no idea tbh. ive tried the 7260 and was really happy with it, never had any issues other users reported. still remember the killer bashing going down here some time ago, so a bit reluctant... HTwingnut´s experience with it seemed to be positive through and through though. hm...

 

7260 is well known for ping spikes and bouncing throughput speeds. I'm trying a few things suggested on the web however, to see if it fixes it. Killer 1525 was solid as a rock with no issues. I think it's simply a driver issue, but if Intel doesn't get their act together I will stick with Killer, if I can get ahold of them readily that is. Kinda stinks they aren't generally available for purchase.