*** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

An m.2 SSD, mSATA SSD, and 2.5" SSD all have similar performance. Its when you get into PCIe that you see faster speeds from a single drive.

 

Take note of the system specs:
- 1st for WLAN Combo M.2 2230 Card with PCIe and USB interface.
- 2nd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA / PCIe Gen2 x2/x4 interface.
- 3rd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA interface.
The second 2280 bay isn't PCIe, you will choke them both down to SATA. Wouldn't recommend SM951's for this, but I haven't seem benchmarks of a SM951 using a SATA interface.

 

Are you sure about that?

From the Clevo web site for the P770ZM,

Under Storage :Two M.2 2280 SSD, SATA interface (RAID 0/1) or Two M.2 2280 SSD PCle interface
Under Communications - M.2 2230 Card module
Under Slots:
1st for WLAN Combo M.2 2230 Card with PCIe and USB interface
2nd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA / PCIe x2/x4 interface
3rd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA / PCIe x2 interface

 

How about the screen ? How does it perform ?

 

Amazingly! I notice no issues with it at all. Someone with more knowledge about the technology behind the panel can answer better than I can, but it blows any laptop I've ever used out of the water.

 

Yes, I got the M.2 SATA initially. As I said, I haven't seen the steady state performance of M.2 SATA to make an assumption between PCIe x2 vs. M.2 SATA and which I would choose.

I also wouldn't say M.2 SATA is comparable to 2.5" SATA without seeing those test results. Are the controller channels the same for each? Most often mSATA uses 4 channels compared to 2.5" using 8. When pushed hard, 8 channels wins (interleaving and parallelism). Same NAND packages, die size? Lots of variables.

I have seen the results for the high performance (SE Pro, 850 Pro and a few others) 2.5" SATA SSDs. In this machine, I would choose a top performing 2.5" SATA over PCIe x2 in an OS environment based on steady state, "real world", performance. Those high sequential numbers of the PCIe x2 won't matter for an OS drive. All the FOB empty drive benchmarks go out the window as every drive gets to it's used state (steady state).

I'm with you on this. These are the same specs that I see for the P7x0zm

 

Well, from the Clevo spec, it says it's a factory option. Which doesn't really help confirm unless they're violating the M2 socket spec...

Two M.2 2280 SSDs with SATA (Serial)
Interface (RAID 0/1) (Factory Option)
OR
Two M.2 2280 SSDs with PCIe Interface
(Factory Option):

The two M.2 bays are keyed differently. Eyeballing it, it looks like an M socket and B socket. No M2 sockets exist that only support SATA and not PCIe, so unless they didn't wire something, two 2x drives in a raid will work as long as they fit both sockets. The SM951, is not compatible with both bays as it is only keyed for 4x (M). I haven't heard of SM951 drives being available in different key setups, and I doubt this will change soon. Because of this, contacting Clevo directly and requesting 4x sockets on both is the only option (for SM951 raid 0/1 on these machines), but i doubt that would be an easy request to push through.

 

Good firsthand info on the different sockets! Only one x4 would fit the standard layout in it's bay.

 

Give it time. When they do a new 2011 socket Clevo that supports an E chip or a Xeon E5, then you will see dual 4x PCIe support because the minimum PCIe lanes is like 28 (instead of our measly 16 lanes on the 4790K), while the higher end chips and E5 have 40 PCIe lanes. So now you know...

 

Mysn (XMG) is now offering the LG LP173WF4-SPD1 IPS panel as an additional option.

Is it better than the stock TN Chi-Mei panel?
I understand this is the same IPS panel that comes in (probably all 17.3" ?) notebooks because it's the only 17.3" IPS panel available?
I do not know if this statement is correct, however, the AW R2, and the ASUS ROG G751 both have it, as well as the Acer Aspire Nitro 17. It seems like a decent screen, but seems to suffer from a lot of screen bleeding.

Does anyone have any experience with this screen? What about ghosting?

Thanks in advance

 

The Intel 750 is almost available:


Will a 15mm drive fit in the P7xx 2.5" bay?

 

No it won't fit in any laptop. Way to spam this question ROFL.

 

No and the power consumption of that controller would mean it would be a bad idea anyway.

 

It's 25W!

 

Yeah, pretty crazy, it NEEDS airflow.

 

Wow. Bye-bye battery life.

 

18 channels of goodness
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7062/intel-750-1-2tb-nvme-pcie-gen3-x4-aic-ssd-review/index2.html
The last two pics are in the test system, cooler added in last.
"Intel went full size as opposed to an M.2 form factor to avoid incurring limitations that are inherent to a device that is so small. The 750 Series employs no power saving features, as they cut into overall performance."

 

btw, that factory option for either pcie 2x or sata on the second m.2 slot is dependent on the 3G functionality of the machine (at least thats the case on the 15 inch model). if 3G is enabled, the second m.2 slot will only support a sata drive, once 3G is disabled ull be able to run two pcie 2x drives

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

 

Okay guys, was 1 week away from the forums, last week at the LAN i attended was a full success and the 771ZM worked flawless without any issues. I had some random Bluescreens before the LAN, but i fixed that with RMAing the RAM. I recommend OCing the Panel with CRU too, cause i noticed when playing HL2 DM and UT99 that the screen is still at 60hz even if i oced it to 101hz. I then tried WoW cause i knew there was a seperate option for set the refresh rate and as i guessed max 60hz were available. After trying CRU tho everything worked, UT99, HL2 were using the highest refresh rate available after that. i doublechecked then again in WoW and voila 101hz were there, just as information for you (great) guys.

Other thing i tried yesterday, i put a 780M in the ZM and it worked, didn't installed the drivers tho but it seems you have to mod the .inf for that, besides that i had a picture. (Didn't try the Display connections tho).
I tried cause a co-worker of mine wants a P751ZM too and i thought why not sell him the 780m. So yeah some little summary of me.


Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5

 

Glad to know they're hot-swappable to old models... I wonder if you could put my 280M or something into it and see if it works? If these P7xxZM machines are the new M17x, then that's definitely something to note... when the SLI model comes out (assuming clevo finds a 400W power brick) we're going to have some FUUUUNNNN.

I WILL SHOVE A 120Hz SCREEN INTO A SLI REFRESH OF A P770ZM IF IT SLAYS ME

Public Service Announcement: D2 would like everyone to note that he is likely never acquiring a new gaming laptop, and just likes to yell things for fun.

 

If i have some times this weekend, i maybe trying out the 780M fully, with installed drivers and so on, would be a good way if i roast my 980m somehow which i don't think but still. Would be cool for people who still own a P150SM or maybe even P150HM-EM with older GPUs who just want to buy a barebone cheap without GPU.

 

It's the same panel used in almost all 17.3" notebooks that have an IPS panel, since it's pretty much the only one available.

I reviewed it in the ASUS G751JY.

 

hm are there any offers for barebones without gpus? here i thought that even a "bare" barebone would at least have the gpu installed... would be a nice option though

 

jaybee83, can you elaborate a bit more on this? For example, does that mean if a 3G card is installed (not a wireless network adapter) on the M.2 2230 or is this a BIOS setting?

 

Thanks man! Going to check your review. I have a friend who owns the Acer Nitro, screen looks very good, but has noticeable bleed, kind of annoying. Still doubting whether to go for this 17.3 IPS panel or settle with a smaller screen but better quality, e.g. the 15.6 inch B156HAN01.2.

 

eurocom already has them actually they have had them for a while its called the Panther 5 mobile workstation SLI and desktop CPU's.....

 

What a coincidence, I reviewed the Clevo P650SE, which has that exact panel.

 

Check Out R&J Technology-> Products (link) -> Clevo Barebone Series (link)

 

Ok guys as i promised i just checked out the 780M in my 771ZM, everything works .

Like i said i had to modify the nvidia .inf a bit but after that, everything installed flawless, not a single error.



and i tested 1x run with valley, even Fan Profile seems great, like i said zero issues besides that little modding.



Happy Easter guys

 

Thin and light, BGA?

 

SLAY THE THIN, LIGHT, BGA ********

Edit: how the hell is that not censored? I'm letting a mod take care of that if they want.

 

No. That's a P570WM, and it uses x79 chipset. I am looking for a Z97 variant, so as to actually get more sales in the community.

Also, the P570WM has terrible BIOS options compared to the newer models. It'd be real nice if we had an upgraded version, but X99 sucks

 

Yup your right (of course you are lol) what do you mean to get more sales in the community? You think there would be more sales of the Z97 with sli? well there might but I am not sure because I am pretty sure it would be one expensive beast and probably very heavy and thick comparatively to the current sager's which I am not saying are thin and light in anyway lol but yah I would love to see that too, I am buying the p9377sm-a in 2 weeks wonder if I should save my money and wait or do you think its going to be months and months of a wait?

 

Check my edit, and the machine will be more in the size format of the P37xSM-A machines; since Clevo seems to have discarded ODD drives. That extra space can be used for storage etc etc and the whole back of the machine can be properly used for heatsink and fan placement etc etc. I don't know how they'll do it, but Clevo doesn't design machines that don't work if it's one thing I know about them. Though they honestly could design things a LITTLE bit better. Anyway, I digress. As much as a good bit of users on this forum don't mind a bit of a thick machine (despite the insane popularity of the thin models) the P570WM is even too thick for many. And I totally understand that case for them. The P37xSM-A isn't even all that bad, to be honest. My D900F was larger so this thing feels easy to move around. I think it'll get more sales, especially if it can handle a 4790K properly.

 

what am I looking for in your edit? lol....I wonder when Clevo will be releasing any new models? I am sure as soon as I pull the trigger and buy my laptop something i have been holding out for and waiting will be released thats just how my luck as always worked, hopefully it won't matter too much because I will get the 4810mq and 980 sli so I still think it will be a great machine that will work well for years down the road at least thats what I am hoping.....a guy in the market place on this forum has the laptop I want for sale for dirt cheap he paid like 4 grand for it with all the bells and whistles even comes with 2x512 sdd's 16gb kingston hyperx a 120hz display a notebook cooler but the guy didn't freakin gget a 3 yr warranty he got a 2 year warranty so I dunno if I should buy it from him and miss out on 1 extra year of warranty ...his is only 5 months old so its in brand new condition.....so I dunno what I should do if I should buy my own and get the 3 yr warranty or take a chance with his and the 2 year warranty...someone please tell me what I should do! ....plz thanks

 

That

 

P870RM is coming in September with Skylake.

 

Proof?

 

That comes from Clevo, but at this moment nothing is certain. That's the plan.

 

P870RM what is that going to be?

 

Skylake CPU, USB 3.1, NVMe drives.

 

No Alienware for you!

 

I would think people should not need auto censoring

I am actually going thin and light (sort of) for my next build. Just remember, everyone has different needs.

 

What the ...

Of course, to each his own.

 

Yep, single GPU too

 

I couldn't make out the pic in the P570 lounge.... must be my age

 

Ah that's the king crab from mech warrior online using laser etching on my P570 chassis, the new machine should be up and running in the next week or two.

 

Impossibru

 

Does anyone have the P770ZM with the 4970T?

Does the usage of the T processor result in a substantial increase of battery life?
Is the loss in performance worth it considering this laptop will only be used for games, not rendering etc? Is the performance gap between the 4790S and 4790T quite high or is it acceptable?

 

No it won't result in a substantially increased battery life. The CPUs run at a reduced clock speed when not connected to the wall.
The 4790T will be somewhat slower. If you will note it depends on the application. BUT, most of the task have to be calculated nevertheless. So the slower CPU will take longer to calculate the same result, thereby neglecting the reduced consumption to a certain degree. Of course the calculated result on the 4790T still needs less watts, but is it worth the live with the impossibility to maintain a high clock rate? Depends on you...

--> The only thing that will notably increase your battery life is undervolting.

PS: The 4790T behaves like a capped 4790K, while the 4790K can behave like a 4790T if you want it to do so. That's the case with most of higher wattage cpus of the same "speed-class (in this case: 4790x).