My point exactly recommendations are brilliant and helpful. I'll most likely use a similar solution but every option has its place.
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I'd love trying to clock this machine up to say 4.5ghz I just worry about throttling and temps. May be written worth trying once I've repasted myself. Looking forward to doing it on this machine. I'd definitely prefer an option didn't require constant short term repastes
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Have they told you when you'll get your machine back?
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Nope.
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It's easy: Just pump up the voltage recommended for 4,5 Ghz and use TS while stresstesting it with your preferred TIM. If not exploding instantly, change the TIM to one of the three I mentioned before and repeat the process. You should see an improvement!
Jokes aside: The best way is to first undervolt your CPU to the lowest stable settings and then ramp up the multis until you get the first instabilities. Then up the voltage and repeat the process until you reach the thermal limit. Change TIM then and continue.
I would recommend ICD, because if it turns out that you have a lemon heatsink, then ICD is the only TIM which can get you proper results, even with warped heatsinks.
Maybe @Papusan can kindly chime in for a quick and dirty recommendation for voltage settings for 4,5Ghz, although every chip has its own settings due to different binning quality.Tony Palmer likes this. -
Hey Guys,
I´m searching for a new portable Powerhouse and so I found the P751DM2 (6700k, GTX 1070, 32GB Ram).
I was just wondering if it´s possible to play games with it and simultaneously use OBS to stream it to Twitch or if the high gpu- and cpu-usage at the same time will force cpu and gpu to throttle? Can someone tell something about this usecase?
(Repasting CPU/GPU and deliding the CPU is no problem for me and will be done by me)
Thanks
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sorry fella it sucks bigtime hopefully it's a quick fix
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I'm already undervolted to -125 how much further do you think it will go?
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I got mine from a post earlier in this thread because clevo website was being useless. You should fully uninstall it then try another version think the one I'm using it 00.71
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If a 6700k can't hold it, then no other CPU will do it (except Hexacores and upwards). Can't say, if a 1070 could be a bottleneck here. Do you want to stream in 4k? Then it might be. But tbh, I'm not an expert here.
If Dollaris aren't an issue you could still opt for the P775DM3 with 1080.
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Is the CLU TIM not a warranty breaker though? I was under the impression that it voided the warranty. I also read a few reports about it becoming brittle and flaking after time, where it became a complete nightmare to remove?
I loved the idea of CLU but I've not dared to put it near any of my CPUs yet, I doubt very much I would put it on a brand new 6700k..... especially if it voids the warranty.
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GTX 1070 and 6700k will do the job but they will both be under load up to 90% simultaneously for 8 to 12 hours in this usecase. I was wondering if the cooling (with repasting, deliding and undervolting) will be sufficient so that gpu and cpu with standardclocks won't throttle?CaerCadarn and mayureshd like this.
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That has always been the million dollar question haha.
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Anyone got a guide or link to overclocking this 6700k I've got the undervolt down to -150 steady now to start ramping it up
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Every chip is different unfortunately. If you really want to unfairly stress the CPU then run Prime95 small FFTs. That'll show any issues with the temps and it'll also crash quickly if your system is unstable.
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I've only undervolted so far got it down -150 was going to increase the multipliers x1 then test
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Basically the Guide is to ramp up the multis till it crashes, then up the voltage (in small increments) and test again till you reach either thermal limits or the desired frequency - 4,5Ghz. You can't make much wrong in trying it out.
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If you delid, repaste and undervolt then running your rig at stock clocks, it shouldn't throttle at all, even over a longer period of time under full load! Maybe I would elevate the back up with bottlecaps (or use a notebook cooler), just to make sure the fans are getting as much air as they need to cool the innards properly.
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If done not properly and it gets in touch with aluminium and/or the resistors near the die, then it won't be covered by warranty. That is correct!
But to apply it with care isn't much of a hassle as it seems to be from my own experience. If your heatsink is making good contact (that's mandatory when using CLU!), then it won't corrode or become flaky over time. AND the results are awesome!
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Does anyone have any direct experiences with the P750DM and the MSI 16L1 and know which one has quieter fans and better thermals?
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The fans look better in the MSI, but you only have two heat pipes over the CPU whereas there are three over the CPU on the Clevo. I'd say look for temps on the MSI. I don't know whether the Clevo owners lounge has detailed numbers like ZM owners did or not. If you want Pascal, though, you could look at/wait for the refreshes...
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Well, the only temps the MSI has so far is on the mobile CPU version (6700HQ) and they run extremely cold even under Prime95 AVX (latest version) torture test.. a guy got around 75c with no throttling.. That's crazy cold for a Prime95 AVX test.
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Strange, I just could download the XTU-Profile, IF you want to use XTU!
Another (better) indication here:
Clevo P870DM-G ReviewAttached Files:
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Yes and no on double the watts. My 4790K doesn't get to 88 watts until 4.8GHz. So grains of salt on that discussion. Now, what is more worth noting is the 6700K is 4.0 w/ 4.2 boost, much higher than the 6700HQ. If tuned well, it could be decent. The pipes are limited on how much heat can be transferred to the fin array in a given time, but the better fans means it can dissipate that heat better. Also, did you verify the same fans in both models and the same cooling system (position and how the heat pipes connect to the pastes, etc.)?
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Well that's no good, I'm looking for a quiet machine.. I'll guess i'll keep my eye on the MSI 16L1 then.. Too bad nobody has a review of one like anywhere.. And it's been out for almost a year or longer maybe. Very strange.
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Nobody has been able to compare the MSI GT62VR with 6700HQ to the MSI 16L1.. I have the GT62VR coming in tomorrow and I'll be ordering a MSI 16L1 in about 2 weeks so I may be the first to do a full comparison. But from comparing detailed closeups of the two models, the fan and heatsink setup appear to be the same exact setup, with the exception of the MSI 16L1's modified to mount on a socketed CPU/lid.
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That would be nice. If nothing else, a thorough review to compare to other laptops (many here will not consider BGA CPUs). MSI seems to have kept the desktop CPU whitebook a pretty good secret as I hadn't heard about it until a month or two ago...
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I'm looking for a machine to replace my desktop since I hardly use my desktop anymore but something that I can dock to my three 1440ps monitors in Surround (if possible with a laptop) when I choose to. So at this point, i'd rather have a LGA setup for the extra CPU oomph.ajc9988 likes this.
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This looks like 4 pipes total on the MSI 16L1. (Which is more pipes than the 6700HQ version).
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Needing that sort of output, get a Pascal video card, meaning wait for the MSI refresh OR get the p750DM2, P775DM3, or P870DM2. This will guarantee better, more playable frame rate...
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This is Maxwell. 4 pipes on the GPU is fine, but only two on the CPU is the concern. There are three pipes per side. The three on the gpu go straight out. The three on the CPU side only have two to the CPU, then one to the GPU, bolted on top of the gpu heat pipes. That is my concern I was expressing earlier...
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Here you get a whole bunch of OC-settings:
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Eurocom and CyberPowerPC are carrying the MSI 16L1 with Pascal and perhaps the picture is from Maxwell versions but I assure the MSI 16L1 has Pascal now.
I will be getting a 1070 version of it in 2 weeks.
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What's that running (costing) ya?
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With the following specs, pretty cheap i'd say considering the NVMe 512gb included, although getting a 330watt PSU would probably allow for more overclocking the 6700K:
- ADAPTER: 230W adaptor
- BAGS: None
- BATTERY: 8-Cell Li-Ion Battery
- BLUETOOTH: Built-in Bluetooth
- CABLE: None
- CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-6700K 4.00GHZ 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Skylake)
- DOCKINGSTATION: None
- FLASHMEDIA: Built-In SD (XC/HC)
- FREEBIE_VC1: FREE $115 of IN-GAME VALUE for Paragon (1,000 Paragon Coins to spend on additional Master Challenges, skins and boosts.) [+0]
- HD_M2SSD: 512GB Intel® SSD 600p Series PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD - 1800MB/s Read & 560MB/s Write [-56] (Single Drive)
- HDD: 1 TB 7200RPM SATA300 Hard Drive
- HEADSET: None
- KEYBOARD: Built-in Full-color Programmable backlight with Anti-Ghost Keyboard
- MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/2133MHz SODIMM Memory (FB4XTREME) (Corsair or Major Brand)
- MONITOR: None
- MOPAD: None
- MOTHERBOARD: Mobile Intel Z170 Chipset Mainboard
- MOUSE: Build-in Multi Touch touchpad
- NETWORK: Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 (Built-in)
- NOTEBOOK: 15.6" UHD, (1920X1080) G-SYNC eDP Wide View Angle w/ Programmable RGB Keyboard, HDMI 1.4, mini display Port 1.2, Li-Ion Battery & Universal AC Adapter
- NOTEBOOK_COVER: FANGBOOK 4 XTREME Cover
- OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
- RUSH: Standard Process Time: Ship within 7 to 12 Business Day
- SECURITY: None
- SERVICE: STANDARD 1-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY AND LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
- SOUND: Sound by Dynaudior Support 7.1 channel SPDIF output
- SPEAKERS: Built-in 2x 2W speakers w/ subwoofer
- USB: Built-in 1x USB3.1 Type C Port + 3x USB3.0 Ports
- USBHD: None
- VIDEO: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 (Pascal)[VR Ready] (NB-FANG-282)
- VIDEOCAMERA1: Built-in HD Webcam [+0]
- WNC: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260 (2x2) + BT4.1 M.2 type
- WTV: None
- _PRICE: $1949 SHIPPED
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Just canceled my order with Origin PC after my sales rep contacted me saying their supplier is no longer shipping 120hz g sync panels. Nope, I don't want the free UHD upgrade or a $75 card. I paid for a 120hz g sync display and if you can't deliver, don't advertise it in the first place. My jadedness aside, WOAH! What are these new msi beasties and is there a 17 inch one?!
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I would advise taking that over to the MSI section where I believe there is a thread.
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Somethings going on with the screens.
I have an order in at eurocom. The P775DM3-G is supposed to be released on the 15th. They call it the sky X7E2.
When I ordered it showed the gsync screens, FHD at 60hz and at 120hz. I chose the 4k at 60hz. For the pat week they have removed the word G-Sync completely from the order section and product descriptions.
Same for the sky X9E2. (P870DM3)
I don't get it but I hope I get a gsync screen as my invoice says I will. ( maybe i'll have to wait 4 weeks after release until they call me up to pick it up).
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Eurocom confirmed with me via email that the screen is G-Sync compatible.
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Is it possible to use a more powerful PSU than 230W for this model? 230W psu is borderline with a stock 6700K. Even a 6700BGA + 1070 can push up to + - 223w http://www.notebookcheck.pl/Recenzja-Acer-Predator-17-G9-793.173842.0.htmlajc9988 likes this.
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I am actually quite angry at such an exorbitant pricing, but I suspect they're charging for manpower hours. As if I get paid fixing things in my lab...
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