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A quick note that the G-Sync option has returned on the Eurocom X7E2 configuration page. $96 for G-Sync.

Hadriel

 

Prices @ Eurocom are ridiculous! 96 bucks for G-Sink, 96 dollaris for removing the Eurocom Logo from the Lid....

 

What do they actually do if you pay the ß96 extra for G-Sync? If you dont pay they will install a panel with outdated EDID and a VGA which is missing the G-Sync license?

 

I don't actually know. Those may very well be "reject" panels, or something. Clevo website lists all the new versions as G-Sync, so I don't get why there's that G-Sync option tbh.

The price may be high in the US, but for UK this is already the cheapest option for me, especially with student discount.

Hadriel

 

Yes. Whatever was going on with that I guess we'll never know...

 

Ehh, I'd say it's worth it for no logo, I like having no logo on my laptop so I can customize my laptop with stickers or whatever. I suppose I could with a logo but this is cleaner, I always buy with no logo from Eurocom.

Eurocom can be pricy sometimes but I love that they are literally only a 4 hour drive from where I live.

 

Well, after playing around with this thing for the better part of 2 days, I've decided that I want to return it and get my money back.

1) My system was not entirely stable when running with a reduced voltage offset to mitigate throttling.

2) This thing is way too loud when gaming. While it's tolerable with headphones on, I can't game on my TV with it because it's so noisy.

3) It seems to have a problem running my external G-Sync monitor at 144 Hz, resulting in screen flashing and artifacts. Dropping to 120Hz appears to work, but my P770ZM with a GTX 980M has no problems whatsoever running on the same monitor at 144Hz.

4) The RAM slots and WiFi card under the keyboard are inaccessible unless I remove the CPU heatsink assembly, meaning I'd need to re-paste just to get at them, which I'm not at all keen on doing.

It was interesting while it lasted, but I'll be going back to my P770ZM for the foreseeable future. I can tolerate some quirks, but this is too much to bear for a machine that cost the better part of $2,800.

 

That's unfortunate, I had a feeling the 12V fans were going to be a distraction in the long term.

I think there are some laptops that hold the keyboard in by magnets and you can easily pop it off. But you're right, it would be a pain to re-paste just to add/swap RAM/WiFi module.

 

Not trying to steal sales or anything but remember that you will have to pay 20% UK VAT on anything ordered from outside the EU, plus you have warranty solutions to take into account.

 

that's a shame, I love the performance but the costs are too high for a premium high end machine they systems really need a little more technical finesse the 12v fans kick in even when playing undemanding games I'll repaste tomorrow if its no better I won't be keeping mine not for £2k.

 

Anyone have any db measurements of fans under load from, say, 1M away? Even from something like a free phone app?

My current laptop isn't exactly cool or quiet, but I'm curious how much of a difference there is with this model.

 

Unfortunately, according to the official service manual, you have to undo the heatsink to get to the screw that holds the keyboard in place. This was a really stupid design decision because accessing the same compartment on the older P770ZM (which has a similar chassis design) uses screws that are easily accessible and removable.

 

I thought that was only with the P870DM. I guess I've never seen anyone lift the keyboard on the P775DM so I thought all the ram slots were on the underbelly.

 

My machine just took a massive dump for no reason had to system restore it. Noticed all my cpu clocks were locked at 28? anyone know why? got the 6700k

 

Power settings in the clevo control center most likely.

 

I looked in there. Another weird thing in the core voltage offset it was -1000 to 0 +1000 now it's a weird number 998.33322662 for example

 

Yup, I've already accounted for the 20%VAT. Still works out abit cheaper for me, and that's before 10% student discount. I get the warranty part is lacking, but I'll deal with it. PC Specialist doesn't offer the 120 Hz screen. I still thank you for your kind words.

I may not necessarily game much with this laptop, and so probably won't be into hardcore OC, but I probably will try computational chemistry with it... so it'd be nice to have it going strong. I don't know just how noisy this is going to be, but I will have to deal with it if I take the shot. And a good screen is always great.

Also, if anyone isn't aware yet, Eurocom has now included an AUO 120 Hz TN screen with 5 ms response time, 3K resolution. Model B173HAN01.3

Hadriel

 

Wow, nice. Too bad they dont have that in FullHD option :/

 

Actually, they have both! Check out the configurator. I'm re-excited for these models again. To be honest, if we are able to upgrade to Volta gpu's next year, I feel the 120hz 1440p screen is the way to go.

Also, HOLY crap, $433 for the 120hz 1440p screen and $267 for the 120hz 1080p?! Eurocom what....

 

I'm going to get prepared for a bit of bench marking and stress testing over the weekend. Any recommendations for what I should go with? I was just thinking of the norm....

3DMark (Timespy, Firestrike, etc), Prime95 (Small FFts to cook the CPU), Crystal?

Is there much point in doing a PCMark test?

 

Crysis skybox that linus uses is pretty good for load testing.

 

Any links for download?

 

I'd love if you could include 3Dmark11 and some sort of stress-test that puts the GPU at 99% (or 100%) load for ~10-15min, and see what the temps are If you bench, please tell us what thermal paste was applied, and if you undervolted.

 

The 1440p panel is 120hz 5ms TN, while the 1080p panel is 120hz 25ms IPS.

 

Just curious what are the 25ms 1080p displays now? The LG or the AUO one?

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How do you know this? If this is true, I am so getting the 3k screen.

 

1080p 120hz 25ms IPS: AUO B173HAN01.1
1440p 120hz 5ms TN: AUO B173HAN01.3

I am crossing my fingers for the AUO B173HAN01.2 to be an 1080p 5ms panel.

 

On the same boat 1440p seems personally a bit overkill for 17 inch NBs + with 1080p the 1070/1080 are definitely last longer Performance wise

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I've just repasted both CPU and GPU with Gelid Extreme. Cleaned first with articlean and just ran prime95 and heaven benchmark for the Prime95 test it spiked to 92 degrees for a second then stayed at 80 or under throughout for 15mins the cores were all different temps through with core 1 being the hottest throughout. During heaven benchmark the gpu never got above 69 degrees with max benchmark settings. Going to undervolt then re-run prime95 see how much difference it makes.

edit - second run highest temp was 85 degrees on the first core. Throughout the test it fluctuated at 82 - 79 - 82- 76 which I thought was quite a broad difference.

 

Those temps = well within comfortable ranges. I cannot wait to pick up a model when the new screens hit the market. A quick question, how strong are the hinges? Does the screen vibrate if anything even lightly brushes it, or is it set-as-a-rock like Asus hinges?

 

85 as your max is ideal, with prime I would even run at 90.. Run the test a few times to make sure it doesn't peak above it then take it from there. Start off with a -100mv then start increasing the multiplier until it you are above 85DegC in prime 95. Reboot your PC then run some benchmarks and see what your maximum temperature is. If it's WAY below 85 then I would increase the multiplier and the undervolt until you hit 90 on prime then see what you bench.

My family aren't going to see me for a week while I play with this thing

 

Looking good!
I'm really interested to see the difference you are getting to decide whether to do the same myself. Would you mind running firestrike including the demo at the start with overclocked fan profile and -110mv on the cpu if it's not too much trouble? and reporting the max temps so I can compare directly with it.

 

hinges are great really well made compared to my last clevo no wobble very sturdy

 

this is it http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10091557 my temps never went above 80 on cpu and 69 on gpu I'm thinking this repaste was a success am noticing big differences in the cores though? is that normal? like core 1 can be 80 and the others in the low 70's

have to edit this the core never went above 78 for firestike undervolted -125

 

Tony are the frequencies on your GPU not really low?

 

I'll do a more complete post with some pictures and the info from prime95 and 3dmark, was really worried I'd botch the paste but the way pcs has put it on there was paste on the mobo and all over the gpu coating the plastic cover around my 1080 took almost 30mins to clean it all sufficiently cant recommend articlean enough £7 for two bottles be careful though the finishing liquid is corrosive don't use too much

 

I think the cores varying that much is normal, mine is the same and so is my desktop 4790k.
Your gpu score looks low though and the gpu core clock is down in the 1200s and should be in the 1800s, were you running in battery or plugged in?

 

How so mate? I've undervolted but as I said before my CCC seems to be playing silly buggers and XTU kept crashing my computer. I need a way to undervolt and overclock my second score with a slight oc was http://www.3dmark.com/spy/442984

those scores we're before the repaste however and had full fans now its running with what sounds like only one on during all benchmarks if I put full fans on I think my temps would drop even further.

 

good to know my old computer had a slight variance in temps. I'm going to reinstall CCC I think it's not working properly. I ditdn't notice the clock but from my temps I think a slight oc wont hurt also always plugged in. This computer is brilliant for sleep mode

 

What is CCC? It's not overclocking we are talking about. Your GPU should read 1733mhz stock.... not 1200.

 

I would uninstall all that stuff, take away all overclocking/undervolting and start from scratch. Run a firestrike bench completely vanilla and see what you get temp wise vs score wise. You should be much higher than what you are getting. You're getting lower scores than mobile CPU packed laptops.

 

couple of tweaks there for another firestrike run temps cpu max 76 and gpu 68!! haha I'm really having trouble with this chip it doesn't seem to hit its 4.2ghz boost even with an overclock

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10181295

 

I've uninstalled everything and rebooted hopefully removed any issues. CCC is clevo control centre it has a gpu and cpu overclock system which seemed ok but started going a bit wonky think XTU caused it but I'd used that on my last machine and it ran ok shame, gonna run another firestrike now

 

I'm not sure if you're following us here Tony. It's nothing to do with the CPU. It's the GPU that you are having serious issues with.

Notice the difference with that result there. Was that with everything stock?

 

That gpu score looks much more like it! 68 degrees on that run? Is that including the demo at the start? Because that is 10 degrees less than me!
Is that cpu temp with an undervolt? It is about the same as me at -110mv.

Is this all at max fans or overclock profile?

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14882031 this is a vanilla setup temps hit 91 max on cpu and not even 70 on gpu. Wonder why my clocks are so low? this is a bit disappointing. Wonder if something needs adjusting in bios?

 

The GPU looks spot on. I thought the 6700k had a boost clock of 4.2GHz so that seems a tiny bit low.

Try resetting your bios to default and running it again. This gives you a good baseline.

 

Just read up and found the 4.2 turbo boost is for a single core only so you won't see over 4GHz across 4 cores without an OC.

I would now drop the voltage 50mv and re-run the test to see what the temps are. Step the voltage down 10mv and re-run until you see 85 max on the CPU.

 

Yeah gpu clock speed is good now, under 70 degrees max gpu is awesome. Looks like I will be repasting soon too.

 

Oh, I would set your fan profile to overclock in the BIOS now too.