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i think theyre under the cooling pipes not 100% tho

 

http://i.imgur.com/jK5MLHj.png

Cant wait for mine

 

Under the keyboard.

 

Yep, found them. Waiting on the 960 Pro to arrive and then I will need to get a SATA SSD installed.

One thing to note, when you remove the base, be very careful in the rear corners. There are thin pieces of plastic trim that are easy to break. I will post a photo when i get a chance during the installation of the 960 Pro tomorrow.

 

It's always good to be careful inside a notebook

 

It wasn't really that as much as the case it really tight the first time you try to pull it apart.

 

The back should not be under any pressure if you lift from the front lip.

 

I just received my brand new Sager NP9876 with the i7 7700k and 1 gtx 1080. I am so far in love with this laptop with how fast it is and the build quality but one thing I am not a fan of is the heat that the CPU produces especially when playing games. I know with having desktop components in a laptop there will be more heat but I am wanting this machine to last as long as possible and heat will be the death of it if I don't fix it. I was fully aware of that when I purchased it but wanted something that was a portable powerhouse. I am currently waiting on another Samsung 960 Evo to arrive to install in my system and have been doing some tinkering with the thermal and so far have found out that I will have to delid the CPU to reduce heat. I have tried multiple thermal pastes with no successful results. I ordered a delid kit and some Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut. I was wondering if others could share their results in delidding a CPU like how much of a performance and reduce of heat they experienced on their CPU. I would also like to know if it would be a good idea to use the Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on both the CPU and also the GPU or if I should use something different that is not liquid metal (recommendations are welcomed). I am planning on using the conductonaut on the actual die under the IHS. I am also going to replace the thermal pads to try to reduce heat. I know liquid metal thermal can damage the CPU and GPU if it runs over the die so I do have some electrical tape that I can cut to protect those components. I am not really looking to overclock but to just have the machine run cooler. I have built multiple gaming computers but this is my first go at a gaming laptop. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

PS. Please do not recommend a laptop cooler. I can not force myself to use a cheap fan on this beast of a machine

 

I'd reconsidered the use of Grizzly Conductonaut. And rather opted for Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra
And I will not force at you cheap fans aka laptop cooler. But take a look

 

I bought 2 tubes of this stuff last week, going to put it to use this weekend, will keep you posted!

 

Would you also recommend Coolaboratory on top of the ihs and gpu?

 

Is there a picture of the KM1 optane slot?



Got one coming hopefully, order isn't confirmed yet.

 

If the heatsink has perfect contact with Die/IHS, just use Coolaboratory Liquid metal. But the majority have to modify the heatsink pressure with copper shim for the best result with Liquid metal on top of IHS. Don't forget the Clevo heatsink lottery

 

Any news for aorus x9 Vs km1?

 

I'd just order a or 30mm x 30mm x 0.05 or 30mm x 30mm x 0.03mm ASAP from eBay right now since they take a while to arrive.
I had reasonably good contact without a shim using CLU but the contact was somehow compromised during gentle transportation. I've since gone with a shim to secure the gap.
So be prepared to use this on top of the IHS. I'd go for 100% CLU and get it right, that way you won't need to worry about mere mortal TIM getting old on top of the IHS.

I'm also a fan of not using cooling pads. I've only been using the shim for about 4 hours and can run the Division sustained (reasonably CPU heavy) at 5ghz with temps in the high 80s early 90s. Obviously this was just for testing. If I back off to 4.5ghz the machine runs in the 70s. Apologies for the unscientific temp measurements but it's all I've had time to do.
Anyway... get the shim my friend..

Regarding the GPU it's not a necessity like the CPU. I've got it on mine and it's not a game changer.

 

So with Delid CPU it would go liquid metal on die and bottom of ihs. Then after relid liquid metal on top of ihs and copper shim --> liquid metal on top of shim - - > Heatsink. Also have others relid the CPU or just set the ihs on top of the die and let the retention bar hold everything in place? I do have some high temp rtv silicon that I can use. Thanks for the advice.

 

0.03mm, are you sure?

 

Oh yeah, they are still good graphics cards. Not like they totally became trash overnight.

 

I'd have to double check but I think it can go in any 4x PCI-E M.2 on supporting boards/CPUs.

 

well, maybe not overnight. 2 days more. in average 1080ti at least 30%s more efficient than 1080 on the resolution close to 4k. for example:
Fallout 4: 3840x2160 +35.6% in comparison with 1080
The Witcher 3 - Wild Hunt: 3840x2160 +27.3% in comparison with 1080
so looks like 1080 already retired in several months after birthday.

 

sli 1080 on laptop though

and I don't think the Ti will come to laptop

 

yeppp, this is why I'm still sitting and thinking about P870KM1 with 1080 sli.
from what I saw on youtube 1080 can provide ~30FPS in crysis 3 on 4K.
and 1080 sli gives 40-50FPS. mostly it is about desktops but I still have a hope that laptop will be close to these results. especially with the desktop cpu.

 

4k with aa on?

 

well, I don't remember exact parameters. I think every time it was said - maximum settings

 

I read that with the nanosuit's voice

 

The tests I've seen... 1080Ti going to use a lot more power than 1080. Then out of the question for laptops. The cooling should be improved even in Clevo P870 series and forget to insert a fully working 1080Ti in these modern Turds.

 

yeppp. no limits. I play two games. actually - 3. first is - crysis 3. slowly i'm moving from recruit through soldier to veteran. second game - chess. fritz 11. well. obviously it doesn't need fps but it can gain from additional memory and cpu clocks. and last but not least - descent 2. there is some group of enthusiasts which keeps it alive, gives it a new look with the good old real 3d gameplay

 

The chart you quoted shows a laptop can handle a single 1080ti at least if it's the same infrastructure as a 1080 SLI laptop - for which there are turd and hotturd equivalents.

For future reference, if turd = BGA, then hotturd = LGA, whenever turd is mentioned from now on, hotturd will follow.

So your hotturd oughta be able to handle at least a single 1080ti-class MXM - extended format - GPU.

Maybe a GX800 water-cooled laptop could handle 2 x 1080ti-class GPU's? That would be an awesome combination, I'd wonder how Asus would handle the off dock air cooled operation?

A GX800 with a 1080TI-class SLI would need at least a 450w PSU for portable single GPU operation, and something like the Eurocom 780w PSU for on dock power.

I wonder how long it will take to release a new 1080ti-class GPU - single / SLI laptop?

 

it is endless race. the same as with jeans - you can buy the same pair cheaper maybe 20%s less on black Friday. yes. I can. but I need (want) these jeans right now

 

Yeah, but with the same fuel all those jeans will still "turbo" at the same speed

 

NVIDIA has confirmed there never will be an nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti for laptops. They are simply not going to make one. They are reserving it for desktops only...and of course that one could never fit into a laptop.

 

It would become an hideous sight and what a big tragedy... A modern i7 BGA Turd with 1080Ti SLI. This is like destroying a max performing Porsche with a 4-cylinder VW Passat engine And this ugly water dock. Would have taken the whole place on my dining-lounge table where I usually sit. NO THANKS And my wifw would kill me

 

Hmm, your setup is taking much more room than a docked GX800

 

I know you keep saying that, but it seems we are going to keep talking about a 1080ti-class GPU as if it might happen some day - not soon - someday, as eventually a 1080ti-class GPU will arrive that will be the same performance as the 1080ti desktop or higher - not named "1080ti" , and *that* laptop GPU will ship in a laptop

 

Not always I have my Machinery at the same time atop the table But you will not see a Turd there or any Water dock Somewhere goes my limit. As you probably know

 

I know, you use "Snow-Cooling"

 

Who need waterdock for Turd i7 speed?

 

I'm sure the dulcet tones generated by the fan's were loudly melodious

While the gentle humming of water-cooling would go unnoticed by all. Ahhhhh.....

 

How long was 980M in sales before 1080 took over? And in case, we should perhaps expect the same lifespan for Pascal? Before we go into better graphics performance with Volta.

You may have forgotten... But my P870DM1 with delidded 6700K and Liquid metal is actually fairly quiet. And My wife does not complain. What more should I want, LOL

 

There is a different environment now, I don't think we are going to see the long 980m type lifetime this turn, but who knows, maybe AMD will fizzle and Nvidia can milk it for just as long.

Yeah, well, glad it's working out nicely for you.

There is an acclimation factor, once you live with loud fans for a while, you don't notice the noise as much as those that live with mostly quiet most of the time.

I've walked in on people using such noisy fanned devices, and hand them ear protection - they have "velocitized" - gotten used to the ear damaging sound to the point where they don't even notice.

It may run cool and quiet most of the time - BGA speeds / temps, but when you are running 100% fans to get the lowest temperature during LGA 95w++ benchmark runs, it's running ****LOUD****.

Sorry, but the performance at the top end of LGA needs far more air flow than the top end of BGA, and not for all that much performance improvement.

That's the difference, a small subtle well-learned difference

 

honestly speaking i'm using 980m right now and more or less i'm completely satisfied with 1080

 

BTW a 1080Ti maxed out at 330W in crysis 3 4k ultra in linus's 1080ti's review

 

You mean 1080p right? Not GTX1080?

 

There have been reports of 200w-300w from 1080's as well, I don't have a reference off hand, but maybe someone can quote their top power draw.

I found the chart with the desktop 1080ti power draw, 329-330w, which is about the same power draw from 2 x1080's in SLI

Spoiler

 

yes, I meant screen resolution. i'm still trying to figure out what exactly I need and how much I will have to pay for this. like I said I mostly play crysis 3 and on the 17'' screen the gameplay is good enough.
4k screen looks better for me because of ips. I absolutely agree that it is almost not possible to use 4k on the regular basis on the 17'' screen. I have 15'' dell xps machine WITH 4K. I tried everything but finally I gave up and changed resolution to 1900x1080. I remember that I almost won but what I couldn't resolve was the remote desktop connection to my server machine. it was beyond the limits of my enthusiasm. nevertheless the quality of the real ips screen is sooo good that I can live with the "lower" resolution. it is absolutely necessary for adobe lightroom for example.
the same story is here. I think I will reduce resolution for the "normal" activity but I still will have 4k for the games. and I still will have ips for lightroom.

 

also I want to be ready when crisis 4 will be released

 

From the wall is total system power but the test is not very CPU/mem heavy.

 

Does anyone know how to get rid of the Caps lock On/Off thing in the upper left corner when caps lock is pressed?

 

Right click control center icon in system tray and untick OSD.