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    *** Official Clevo P870KM1/P870KM1-G/Sager NP9876 Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 3.0 ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You need to work out a deal with HID @Donald@HIDevolution where you can get a constant stream of current laptop models as they release.

    Overlapping with 1 previous generation so you aren't without a laptop during the transition.

    "The Continuous New Laptop Continuity Warranty" 1-5 years

    Big bucks, but worth it :)
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    I w!$H
     
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    You bet...I encourage that program. It is actually cheaper in the long run. Don't think so? Just call me to discuss it and I will show you how.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jan 6, 2017
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    There you go @Phoenix !! w!$H granted!! :vbthumbsup:

    @Donald@HIDevolution 's got your Continuous New Laptop Continuity Warranty !!
     
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  5. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    I'll call you tomorrow , my current laptop is in mint condition
     
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    GMLP Notebook Consultant

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    What is the specific technological challenge that keeps manufacturers from implementing 4K with 120Hz (forget HDR for the moment) on laptop screen? On the other hand finally there is going to be a 4K HDR 144hz IPS monitor from Asus this year (PG27UQ).
     
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    BANDWIDTH.
     
    bloodhawk, Jan 6, 2017
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    GMLP Notebook Consultant

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    Uhh...DP 1.4 hello?
     
    GMLP, Jan 6, 2017
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Uhhh just announced ? And means a lot has to be changed internally.
     
    bloodhawk, Jan 6, 2017
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    GMLP Notebook Consultant

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    March 2016 is 'just' announced? We're now 10 months in. Lol Since we're talking about an unannounced laptop here anything is fair game.
     
    GMLP, Jan 6, 2017
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    I.meant 4k HDR.
    The exact same discussion has been had before in.multiple threads.
    The bottom line - Not enough Bandwidth.
    Current system can do 4k at 60Hz max on internal displays. Externally you will need to use multiple ports.
     
    bloodhawk, Jan 6, 2017
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  12. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Well DP 1.4 is on the high end gpus now. The Asus PG27UQ is the dream monitor I'm waiting for at 4K 144Hz.
     
    Galm, Jan 6, 2017
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    True, but didnt he ask about laptop displays? Im kinda confused here now.
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    I just meant so they'll be in laptops soon. Eurocoms been talking about a 4K 120Hz.
     
    Galm, Jan 7, 2017
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    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    I love my 32" Acer 4K monitor. Depending on my mood I use this or my 1440p 144hz IPS monitor. I won't be upgrading my laptop until a 4K 120hz display shows up.

    Anyway this laptop looks sweet. Enjoy to whomever buys it.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    I might move to 1440p ultra wide at some point at 144hz. It's easier to keep the frame rate up and gives a nice experience.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 7, 2017
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Was just waiting for that to come out from you lol

    Really? Its literally the same.. 1 M.2 slot more...

    It's not worth it, even Prema said so.. Just enjoy what you have and wait for Volta! Then you splash out as much money as you like!

    Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk
     
    TomJGX, Jan 8, 2017
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    I want to see this laptop with zen CPU.


    Cannonlake will have to wait until the far future.
     
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    Thanks matey
     
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    Any news of official release date? Did clevo had a display booth on ces 2017?
     
    cj_miranda23, Jan 8, 2017
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    Late January

    Meanwhile, HIDevolution are one of the first to offer Kaby Lake CPUs and even Silicon Lottery ones with a guaranteed 4.7 GHz overclock and delidded

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    @Mr. Fox @Papusan @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @bloodhawk @GTVEVO @TBoneSan @Prema
     
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  22. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    You know Every single 7700K aka 100% can manage 4.8GHz? Wasted money my friend :) Even without Liquid metal :cool:
     
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    I know, as a company, I don't think they'd push for more than a 200 MHz overclock to be on the safe side, after all, it's a promise they're making to the customers, it's up to those individuals to go higher.

    On a positive note, Kaby Flake CPUs have a 66% chance of reaching 5.0 GHz vs thd 20% of the older luck of the draw Sky Lake 6700K where it was a MUST (at least for me) to get a Silicon Lottery version.

    Someone donate to t3h m3h a K46y F14k3 :rolleyes:
     
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    I'll keep ma money till the GTX 1180 comes out.

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
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    It's sad that the DM3 needed so much time for prema to work with

    Now with the KM1 we probably won't see prema s/vbios until cannonlake refresh
     
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    The Prema Release Candidate supports both "Skylake" and "Kaby Lake".

    Note on our website for the EVOC P870DM3, DM2 and EVOC P870KM1 is longer says "...once available...", it says latest updated version.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jan 8, 2017
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    Prema also have vbios? I thought that pascal card have secure flash protection thing that made flashing modded bios near impossible?
     
    Mobius 1, Jan 8, 2017
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    Looking at the size of that bezel, why not a bigger display? 17"? Kinda overkill for 1440p. Oh and no 3D Vision? Come on, we can do better than this.
     
    vulcan78, Jan 8, 2017
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    I'm lost, do you mean you already have the Prema BIOS? :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm sure @Prema provides his bio for testing as well?
     
    pathfindercod, Jan 8, 2017
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    Testing before releasing a BIOS to the public is generally considered a good idea ;)
     
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    Presumably this means that by the time the laptop is released, it will be ready.
     
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    Is it possible that we may see AMD cards in these Cleve laptops in the near future once the AMD refresh hits for Vega?
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm gonna take that as an "I don't know" lol
     
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    No :rolleyes:
     
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    Will need work and the appropriate BIOS mods. And only if they uses the same MXM slot.
    He basically means :rolleyes:
     
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    I think the issue is still as it was years ago with the P180HM - 18" panels of quality to match this level of hardware are non existent. I can't find any mention of the panel inside the GX800 (advertised as 4K 18.4" 250nits) that's the first I've heard of that looks comparable to 17 inch options

    (I just read yesterday the GT80 line including the GT83VR ... multi thousand $ flagship DTR ... is still only using an 6bit 2ch LVDS 1080p/60hz panel!!! What a disgusting waste of SLI'd 1080s.)
     
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    No point in researching/developing/producing such a low volume/low margin product.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 9, 2017
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    That's rather impossible, seeing as how Pascal can only output to eDP.

    However, notebook panels are still pretty much trash. But there's really no demand for anything better...
     
    D2 Ultima, Jan 9, 2017
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    There is demand but the desktop panels have greater thickness and power budgets to get round issues.
     
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    Plus dedicated controllers. Those help out a lot.
     
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    In terms of G-sync? Yes they do have a module which helps with edge cases.
     
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    Nope to control the panel specific settings and such , even scaling. Gsync is more of a bonus/addon.
     
    bloodhawk, Jan 9, 2017
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    Rage Set A Fusioner of Technologies

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    THIS, this is going to be my next monster!
     
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    It could be using a converter chip. Panelook I know isn't perfect, but lists exactly zero eDP 18.4" panels
     
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    They could easily be using a converter.
     
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