*** Official Clevo P870TM Owner's Lounge! ***

The new beast has arrived! Meet the new Clevo P870TM/EVOC P870TM now with Coffee Lake CPUs with 6 Cores/12 threads and supports 3 PCIe NVME m.2 SSDs in RAID 0 for insane storage capacity and speeds!

Where to buy:

- HIDevolution


Specifications:

Display
17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - TN type - LED Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology - synchronizes display refresh rates to the GPU to enable ultra smooth gameplay.

Optional:

17.3" 4K QFHD (3840x2160) AUO LED Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology - synchronizes display refresh rates to the GPU to enable ultra smooth gameplay

Video Graphics & Memory

Single or Dual nVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 1070 256bit w/ 8GB GDDR5 (16GB Total) in SLi with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology

Processor Support and
Heat Management

HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted and Overclocked 8th Generation Intel Core i5-8600K Quad Core Processor, 4.3 GHz (HIDevolution overclocked to 4.5GHz), 9MB Smart Cache - 6 Cores - 6 Threads - GUARANTEED Performance (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra Included)

Optional:

HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted and Overclocked 8th Generation Intel Core i7-8700K Quad Core Processor, 4.7 GHz (HIDevolution overclocked to 4.8GHz), 12MB Smart Cache - 6 Cores - 12 Threads - GUARANTEED Performance (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra Included)

Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested, Overclocked 8th Generation Intel Core i7-8700K Quad Core Processor, 4.7 GHz (HIDevolution Overclocked to 4.9GHz, rated at 5.1GHz), 12MB Smart Cache - 6 Cores - 12 Threads - GUARANTEED Performance (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra Included)

Custom Prema BIOS once available (only if bought from a Prema Partner Shop)

Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface - BEST PERFORMANCE

Chipset Intel® Z370 Chipset
System Memory (RAM)
16GB DDR4/2666MHz (1x 16GB)

Expandable to 64GB DUAL CHANNEL DDR4/3000MHz

Hard Drive
1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive

Optional:

Up to 3x M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSDs or, 2x M.2 SATA III + 1x M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSDs, supports RAID 0 or RAID 1

Up to 2x 2.5 inch 2TB SATA III Hard Drive or 4TB SATA III Solid State Drive

Optical Drive
None, external optical drive available

Card Reader 6-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC up to UHS-II)
Video Camera Built-in FHD (1080p) Web Camera
LAN/WLAN Killer DoubleShot-X3™ Pro (Integrated 2x Killer Gigabit Ethernet LAN + Killer Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535 + Bluetooth, M.2) with Smart Teaming
Optional:
Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF + Bluetooth 4.2

Input/Output
2x Thunderbolt™ 3 (JHL6540) / USB 3.1 Gen 2 combo Port (Type-C)
5x USB 3.0 Ports (USB 3.1 Gen 1, 1 x Powered USB port, AC/DC)
2x Mini DisplayPort 1.3 output Ports (Supports 4K @ 120Hz)
2x RJ-45 LAN 10/100/1000 ports (Killer DoubleShotTM Pro)
1x HDMI 2.0 output Port with HDCP (Will support 4K output for games, but will not support copyright protected video files that require HDCP 2.2)
1x Microphone-in jack
1x Line-in jack
1x Headphone-out jack
1x 2-in-1 Audio Jack (Headphone / S/PDIF Optical output)

Audio
High Definition audio interface
S/PDIF digital output
Built-in Array Microphone
Built-in two speakers and a subwoofer
Sound Blaster™ X-FI® MB5
ESS™ SABRE HiFi DAC for high resolution headphone audio
External 7.1CH audio output supported by 2-in-1 Audio, microphone, Line-in and Line-out jacks

Keyboard and Touchpad
Full color illuminated full size keyboard with numeric pad and anti-ghost keys
Fully programmable macro capability – customize individual key as hot key / multiple keystrokes in one key
W/A/S/D gaming key

Integrated touchpad with Microsoft PTP multi-gesture and scrolling function

Battery Removable 8 cell Smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 89WH
AC Adapter
Dual Full Range 330W AC Adapters, AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC output 19.5V, 16.9A with Power Converter Box

Optional
780W AC Adapter - AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC output 20V, 39A

Dimension & Weight
16.85 "(W) x 12.13" (D) x 1.86" (H), 428 (w) x 308.1 (d) x 47.24 (h) mm
12.13 lbs. including Bare bone, VGA Card and Battery Pack, 5.5 Kg


Other Features
Kensington® Lock
Integrated Area Finger print
Illuminated Top cover
FlexiCharger
Virtual Reality ready
Support Windows 10 Cortana with Voice

 

Thanks
But you should put more options for graphics. Same as you put up the different processor options. And you forgot put up that this beautiful socket beast also support Optane. This new tech ain’t much used in laptops yet, but this model can handle it!!

 

Welcome back 6+ cores to DTR industry since the P570WM, I was waiting and asking for that for almost 3 years. I have to go to check the prices.
Nice review @Phoenix, are you coming back to Clevo or you will stay with MSI team?

Agree with you @Papusan , even any small specs for this beast should be clear, many of us care about all details.

 

We are planning to offer upgrade kits so you can upgrade your P870DM2/DM3/KM1 model to P870TM1. We will be offering 780W AC Adapter standard with our Sky X9C. Check some of Sky X9C images....

 

Great news, I think many will think about the upgrade specially if the price is reasonable. Can you provide some pictures from inside, I'll appreciate if you can give us all details about the new cooling system design.

 

Those images are from angles that are identical to the old models..... Funny that.

 

We need pictures of the Cpu heatsink with the second fan for second cpu HS grills. And of the chassis where the second Cpu HS grills is fitted. All the other pictures ain’t of big interest.

 

Did you plan to offer upgrade also for Tornado F5?

Sorry for ot

 

Yep and when they start coming through I will get some shots for you

 

Will this option also be available for customers in different continents that happen to have a KM1 (that has been bought over here), or will it just be available to peeps that purchased the KM1 through you?
Cheers

 

clevo got back to me this morning with this, really hope they misunderstood me and theres a 4th fan LOL. well even with 3 fans its not like adding a 4th is impossible just a lot of work and having to find a fan that fits. just like @bloodhawk said, a skip. extra set of cpu radiator is just to increase the capacity but with 0 dissipation.

 

Will it cost an arm and a leg or a kidney?

 

Yes

 

if they have 2 GPU with vaper heatsink, then they will need to replace mobo, CPU, cpu heatsink and new GPU vaper heatsink to get everything going thats probably close to $1k dependent on the pricing.

if they got just 1 GPU or 2 GPU with old heatsink (1 per GPU) then only need to swap out mobo CPU and cpu heatsink assuming they dont want the vaper gpu heatsink in 870TM.

imo upgrade is still worth it much more than buying a brand new laptop.

looks like clevo will continue using similar heatsink and chassis when intel goes 8 cores mainstream, almost guaranteed F7 will likley be a better choice by then. RAM and SSD cost 2-3x as they should be anyway, along with 1080 is kinda old for 2yrs now, waiting for next laptop might not be a bad idea.

 

I am still interested in seeing this mythical F7. 8-Cores + SLI 1180s in an MSI. They just need a better touchpad/buttons on their F5. Also I didn't like MSI's software on the F5 but I think their software for the mainstream BGA systems is better? I don't recall getting it to work on my friend's F5, but idk.

 

If the tech skills is equal as Dellienware phone tech support, I will not expected otherwise answer on your Q.

One thing for sure, bruh... Forget proper Cpu overclocking if you go for a new Msi Barbones F7. Totally forget it!!! Read the Msi Barbones thread and you clearly can see what I mean.

 

there is a possibility its like that, however i emailed directly to clevo taiwan dont think they would outsource the customer service from that point on.

for the F7 vs clevo topic, theres both pros/cons. pros being clevo has a better bios but with a limited heatsink paired with 8 core it won't really matter tbh. F7 on the other hand we know nothing about, i am more interested in the internal design first then bios come afterwards. without seeing the F7 my imagination is running wild with all those heatsink/hardware pr0n.

 

With world class HS, doesn’t matter if the machine has hardware limitations (I don’t talk about on firmware level). Can’t be fixed with whatever bios modder you prefer push on it!! Crippled from the birth. Sorry, but I don’t think the engineers will make it otherwise than the Msi F5 Barbones. Hope for the best, but will most likely end as a nightmare for Overclocker’s. Don’t have too big hopes. Msi has never made a high performance laptop. Probably not this time either.

 

a cheap way for them to save money is, make the F7 barebone with same interior as F5 but just bigger display, such as is the same as delliware, if that happens i'll be damned

 

Truth.
Can't exceed 91W power limit. Only way is to change the negative IMON slope offset to make the CPU report lower power draw.

 

CAN'T BE WORSE THAN THIS BELOW, bruh... This two threads was posted on same day!!

Alienware 15 R3 - Are these normal temps?
triggalite59, Monday at 9:10 AM, 2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17

Alienware R4 2017 - Are these normal temps?
gunbolt, Monday at 2:34 PM, 2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17

 

Come on now, we have a lot of DM3/DM1 owners as well who complained about severe heating issues. Even at stock ..
BGA vs. LGA is a totally different thing and the hate is justified. But every brand has its issues.
One thing i do like about Dell is that they make the whole return/RMA process much easier and are at least willing to/are working on improving things. We dont know jackshit about what Clevo are doing. If it weren't for resellers like HIDEvolution, things would be down in the dumpster.

 

Do not become color blind due what you have in your signature JK
Yeah, I know about heat problems/Qc problems with Clevo's as well, but nothing beats what you can find in 2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17 sub threads From the 180w psu + 980m mess, osv A big change started from early 2015 vs before these vintages saw the light.

 

Haha. Not defending AW at all.
Just iterating on the fact that they deserve credit for at least trying to move forward and fix things.

 

Yes it is absolutely necessary as you can see But for these vintages have the train passed. Maybe for next refreshed models.

 

The GT75/GT73 is a higher end single card machine, it cools that pretty well.

 

Is this upgrade only for Eurocom customers?
Also does this upgrade include the new heatsinks and other bells and whistle that come with the original P870TM1?

 

if they only sticked to ultra high end enthusiast machines.. AW18 was the last one was acceptable imho, they always seem to have the highest end but nowadays theres asus, msi and acer's giant laptop, alienware is like in near low tier.

 

Internal turmoil can always change the direction of where a company is going.

 

Is there something you want to share with us ?

 

Maybe the thermal pad is too thick causing meaker's blood pressure to shoot up?

 

Haha, no. But there are plenty of examples out there.

 

you guys going to replace that mobo + cpu + cpu heatsink and gpu heatsink for 6 core upgrade?

 

For $600... Then yes. Anymore than that; Then hell no!

 

Maybe, we'll see.

 

All said and done I'd expect it would cost about that if you factor in selling your old 7700k which would be pretty easy. You might also have some luck selling the old MB which would help too.
I forget how involved it is to get it into a DM1.. I think it was mainly the USB ports.. but I'm sure some of our residents here could do it without too much trouble.

 

The 7700K has dropped a lot in value now that it is on par with an I3.

 

oy vey my shekels ;_;

 

We are back to the old days in that regard.

 

Considering the motherboard alone is in the neighborhood of 500 dollars...I'm going to guess that $600 is not going to cut it....unfortunately. And older systems will need to replace the palmrest as well.

 

Yeah, small run higher end parts always carry a premium.

 

Not to sure about small run, but higher end parts will always cost more. And in this case...They are not working it out like MSI and taking in trade in's....
Now that would cut the price down somewhat.

 

MSI are doing trade ins because they promised future compatibility.

It's a lot smaller run that the desktop Z370 boards too.

 

That reference was more of an example than actually being part of the subject. (And at the time I actually talked to MSI personnel about what was promised.)

Z370 is top of the line for laptops, not desktops. So for your comparison to be viable you need to jump up in quality and price for that to actually work.

 

And, "high end" is subjective for laptops. While you would never know it from the arm and leg charged for it, a "high end" laptop configuration isn't usually very impressive in the world of enthusiast desktops. And, with voltage and power, and configuration limitations, a laptop Z170, Z270 or Z370 motherboard isn't really high end compared to the desktop equivalent of these mainstream gamer chipsets. It's only high end among laptops when compared to the lame alternatives in the lesser laptops.

 

There are a few things to consider.

A) Desktop boards following standard form factors have engineering support from Intel.
B) Notebook motherboards require extra features on the board (higher power GPU slot power delivery for example)
C) Form factor requirements are far more stringent. Less space than an ITX board with the features and ports of a uATX.
D) These parts are custom designed and lower volume parts than the desktop equivalents.

 

Understood. You're right. I have been living in that "high end" (super expensive) laptop world for about 12 years now. I was OK with it until recently. At least there was an MXM standard and a simple GPU swap to make an older system run as well as a new one was pretty easy. But, now even that is gone. And, I don't believe the proprietary approach to building notebooks is going to stop getting worse.

That being said, they could stop trying to one-up each other for a few minutes, work together on a common goal, and have at least some degree of standardization based on chassis sizes, including motherboard form factors. That is, if they wanted to. USB, Thunderbolt, HDMI, etc. are examples of what smart people can do when they want to agree on a standard. They could do the same in many aspects of laptop manufacturing based on chassis size and price/performance tiers. But, the problem is that they don't want to; not because they cannot.

Hell, just look at the circus with MSI and Clevo and the hodge-podge of morphodite form factors for their current GPUs. These clowns cannot even develop an internal standard, LOL. Some of it (referring to A through D) is unavoidable and some concessions have to be tolerated with laptops, but they could do a lot better than they are. They also need to knock it off with cancer firmware. They could do all of the right things with standardization and not gimping hardware, but cancer firmware diminishes the most valiant of efforts on the hardware side of things.

 

@Mr. Fox

When you say the GPU mxm standard is gone, could you elaborate on that in layman’s terms? I just bought a new Clevo 870TM. As someone who solely games, the cpu will be powerful enough for years. I am more concerned with the GPU. Would it be unreasonable for me to expect to be able to upgrade, somehow, to Volta when it comes out? I was definitely under the impression that was a somewhat sure thing (obviously, we don’t know *for sure*).

 

There was such a program a few years back spearheaded by Intel. It was called CBB (Common Building Blocks). Common batteries, AC Adapters, motherboards etc. This was when everything was still socketed.

It was a disaster, and died within about 2 years. The laptop manufacturers just couldn't get a grip on losing their identity.

When they saw the resistance from the laptop manufacturers, Intel even went into the business of engineering and building their own CBB laptop to show everyone "how it was done". I saw it at an Intel Solution Summit (ISS). Talk about a mess! They didn't even have common screws. If I recall correctly, there were 17 different screw sizes. That laptop never went anywhere...and it didn't take long after that for the initiative to die, never to be mentioned again under penalty of 50 lashes. Seriously, it was a sin to even talk about it in the halls of Intel.

I doubt we will ever see it resurrected.

 

Since Pascal is such a departure from previous GPU’s that without some serious modding, previous generation laptops cannot be upgraded to it. However we typically only see that kind of deviation from the past after several generations. I would therefore have to say it is probable that Volta could have an upgrade path. However a buying decision should never be made based on new technology that has yet to be released. Only after it is released and tested will we ever know what upgrade path might exist.