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what makes you think its not SLI isnt that the same?

 

mGPU? Wtf? Some details about this?

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im confused!

 

Is 99% sure this is not GPU from CLEVO. Self GPU fit and works but problems is heatsinks. I don't belive if they change anything with heatsink. They use just another gpus. So is the point.

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Seems to be mxm3.1 150 watt RTX2080 modul

 

They also have RTX 2070 SLI option. The thing is, those cards don't support multi gpu config at all. Seems weird as of right now.

 

Will have to wait for benchmark tests to proof if SLI rtx2080 is possible. Maybe they modified something

 

Neither does the 2080 mobile but you can use them both individually for compute.

 

but then SLI is a wrong terminus on their homepage or we have incorrect informations about SLI support on rtx 2080/2070 so there seems to be something strange.

 

I've posted this in a couple of threads where this conversation is happening, but if you read the eurocom press release it specifies that this isn't SLI, it's dual GPUs running separately as a productivity tool: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/release(390)ec

There are secondary articles like the one linked above and the one from notebookcheck that seem to be taking that and crossing the line into trying to call it SLI.

 

than calling SLI is confused to normal people like me when in reality it isnt....

 

It's just them not understanding what they are listing.

 

Got answer:

unfortunately X9C does not support 2000 series so this is a clear mistake.
X4C and X7C with Single 2080 only.

But what chassis is the eurocom x7c?

The Chassi from the P870 TM R looks different?

What is the difference between P775TMR and P870TM-R both 17 inch laptops

X7C has also 2 display port connections for dell 8k 60 hz

Prema Bios is supported

https://www.mysn.de/xmg-ultimate-gaming-laptops/xmg-ultra17-e19

Looks like a P775TM-G Design

Says 2x Display Port 1.4 but is this possible Clevo only supports 1.3 ???????
1 x HDMI 2.0 (mit HDCP)

HDCP is not supported by clevo either?

Maybe Clevo can help plz :-/

 

Iirc x7 would be p770 series, x4 would be p750 series.

 

@Donald@HIDevolution afaik it seems that only HID is offering P870TM with RTX gpu. New GPU need also new cooling. Could you share any pics of this cooling?

 

I'm sure that's part of their secret sauce on it, will be interesting.

 

OK got new information from eurocom: Sky X7C is based on Clevo P775 they offer 9900k and rtx 2080

So what is difference between P870TM-R and P775. Is same construction cooling?

Schenker homepage states their notebook has display port 1.4 and HDCP.

What is correct? A lot of wrong ifnormations out there.

Why is clevo using old thunderbolt JHL6 540 controller if there is new one out there supporting 8k 60 hz

 

Different chassis, different cooling system, different board; no SLI support on the P775, and IIRC, the P870TM also supports one additional m.2 drive than the P775.

 

Ok i see also 2 ethernet boards. Ill assume the P870TM is the better moore suffisticate chassis with better cooling. Theres no reason to go for P775 beside lower price i think...

 

The P775 is smaller and lighter along with cheaper.

 

Ah btw. Here is my "LOOK at ME, EVERYONE" moment. Look everyone I am changing my signature ! Here is the old one


And here is what the new one will have INCLUDED

 

Yeah it is the new king I decided to get after many years of wait actually

 

Kid at Christmas time?

 

kid ? I didn't understand that

 

So a simple question:

http://www.hidevolution.com/evoc-hi...i5-9600k-i7-9700k-i9-9900k-rtx-2070-2080.html

With 9900k and rtx 2080 is this the best laptop what is available at the moment? :-/ Or has the P775 better cooling?

Does anyone know the taxes / duty when delivering from america to austria?

 

The p775 due to the larger size does have better cooling but it bigger and heavier.

 

hmm maybe you mean P870?

P775: 8.60 lbs. including Bare bone, VGA Card and Battery Pack (with FHD panel), 3.9 kg
P870: 12.13 lbs. including Bare bone, VGA Card and Battery Pack, 5.5 Kg

 

Sorry I thought you were linking the P750, since the P870 RTX is not an official Clevo product you will need to ask HID about that in regards to what they have done with the heatsink.

 

P870TM-R is not an official clevo product what?

 

Clevo put the P870TM for End of Life. What you see in P870TM-R is HIDevolution taking the P870TM models and updating the components so it will run with i9-9900K / RTX20x0 GPUs. Note, this should be fine since HIDevolution would still provide a warranty for the laptop.

Here's what the P870TM-R includes - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-lounge-phoenix-5.826848/page-3#post-10848479


See these posts regarding the original Clevo model and EOL:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...owners-lounge-phoenix-5.826848/#post-10847622
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-1684#post-10834846
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ounge-phoenix-4.809589/page-276#post-10842507

 

The P870TM has been discontinued, but HIDevolution is modding it to support the RTX2080. So only HIDevolution is offering the p870tm- R.
Officially, Clevo is offering the P775 with the 2080.

 

Ok thank you...

 

That's because the P775 TM is woefully inadequate to cool a 9900K properly.
The P870 TM with the vapor chamber heatsink can barely keep the 9900K cool as it is.

 

Hi ,

According to the information provided from the shopsite by hidevolution
Are the 2x 330W AC Adapters now needed in combination with 9900k and 2800?

 

I doubt it. I was running a single GTX 1080 and a 9900k in my P870TM for a while. No issues. RTX 2080 should draw less than the GTX 1080.

 

The vapor chamber is just for the GPUs, not the CPU.

 

@Donald@HIDevolution , curious to know i have a p870DM3 dual 1080 SLI , was talking to a few guys i know in europe , and they have taken there systems to a p870tm1 case and moved the video cards as well , but i have seen some people say it would not work ?

 

there "might" be some incompatibilities between the vbios of your gpus and the sbios of the TM barebone. otherwise it should work without issues.

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I did that, just gpu vbios is the issue.

 

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Today, I placed my order with @Donald@HIDevolution for a P870TM-R. I've been all over the map looking at pros and cons of different systems. In the end, I found myself facing the following choice for approximately the same cost - constrained performance (optimal portability) vs tremendous performance (constrained portability). My epiphany came when I realized I would be using the system I purchase as a desktop replacement for about two years. Had I stuck with my earlier decision to pursue a thin and light, I would be assuming a large opportunity cost in the area of performance when gaming off duty or at home. I also would be assuming a potential risk with repairability. I recently commented that my current thin and light laptop is having intermittent issues with the M.2 SSD SATA connector. Unfortunately, this component is located underneath the motherboard. iFixit rated that type of repair/replacement of the SSD as hard and taking up to two hours. I'm smart enough to read the writing on the wall - try to disassemble, and I will end up with more CPUs than when I started.

Summarizing the details of my purchased system:
9900K, RTX 2080, 32 GB RAM, 2 M.2 SSDs

@Ultra Male, if your offer to tweak Windows on laptops is still offered, and you have time, I would appreciate your help!!

Thank you to everybody who gave me the rope to learn about gaming PCs. Dangerous thing feeding engineers. We only want more. I keep an eye open for the work being done by @Mr. Fox; I watch every overclocking live stream Gamers Nexus and Jayz2cents publish.

 

Tag me when you get it

 

update your signature with your new rig specs (detailed!)! it deserves recognition/exposure

 

Great choice in system and vendor. I wholeheartedly approve of your highly intelligent business decision. +5 rep.

Is that single 2080 going to be cooled by a 1080 SLI vapor chamber? @Donald@HIDevolution

Yes, I agree with that.

 

I suspect with the better cooling and @Prema BIOS this is going to ragdoll and jack slap the snot out of the Dellienware Area 51m. Not to mention the benefit of being larger and more attractive.

The only thing the Area 51m has on it is a metal chassis, but that's not as important as everything else the Clevo brings to the table. I think the Area 51m is pretty tacky looking, in spite of the metal chassis. The white one, especially, makes me want to puke. (Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't like how it looks, but that's just my opinion.) I'll take the larger chassis, better performance, better cooling and more attractive chassis over the metal any day of the week.

 

All laptops are going to balance portability, cost and performance. Getting that sorted is always important, that's why listening to Donald on that was a good plan

 

So I have a question: what TDP does the 2080 have for this model? Is it a 150w part?

Is it possible to get a higher TDP part? I saw in the A51M thread that apparently a 200w 2080 is coming?

Apologies if the question is noobish, I am definitely not very well versed with the ins and outs of DTRs and MXM cards!

 

You will need to ask @Donald@HIDevolution about the specifics. Since they are creating their own spec and using a card from the p770/750 series the stock TDP would match but they could potentially modify that.

 

At this time, it is a 150W card, only because it is so limited by Clevo's firmware. We are working on this...stay tuned.

 

This has been probably posted elsewhere, but if not, providing this link for information on differences between the laptop (150w) and desktop (200w) variants:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeFor...orce-RTX-2080-Desktop_9541_9286.247598.0.html